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hex311
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Newbie needs to do my Cambodian's Right!!! Help, please! :c)
#7877752 - 01/14/08 10:54 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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The following is IN the substrate recipe a friend of mine who is a pro grower whipped up for me...
6 Half Pint Jars Premixed & Sterilized Very well with the newest model Autoclave sterilization machine.
o Organic Brown Rice flower, freshly ground
o Vermiculite
o Mineral Water
o Worm Casings
o Bee Pollen
I didn't get the exact recipe for his substrate mix, but if anyone wants it I will be more than happy to get it from him and post. I have seen him use 1/2 pint jars with it before that had soo many shrooms on them it was incredible. One weighed 24g! Not bragging or anything, just amped because I'm a beginner and I can't wait to give this my best shot. Used to growing weed. 
Ok, one more issue. I have a Mycodome, and I haven't heard much feedback except for my first grow attempt with the Mycodome, when a lot of people called me a moron because I took the cakes out too early before they had the primordia showing and some still had uncolonized brown substrate showing... basically only 3/4's colonized. (I know, I was stupid, and believe me some people here let me know very well.)
Now my friend uses many different grow chambers with vermiculite, but he also has a Mycodome and said that I should have no problems at all with it as he has had high yields with them when you make sure everything is arranged properly. In the future, I will do more research in the future to make a better chamber, but I would like to hear from anyone who has had success with the mycodome themselves, since this is what I have paid for before doing much research, and it does keep a very good temp. monitor and a lot of humidity with the air pump running through the leca, which is light expanded clay aggregate and is used in hydroponics mostly but it provides an ideal substrate for creating humidity for mushrooms, just put the tray on top of it and rest the cakes on it and its good to go. I only said all of this because I want to hear some feedback about the Mycodome 2.0 I own, even though I've seen my friends work wonders. Thanks!
Now, as of lighting, I have two EcoGro fluorescent fixtures that emit plenty of light specifically for plants. I was told by some not to keep the light close, and some say I can simply prop them up above the dome, which I was going to do along with a timer so the lighting will be 12 hours on, and 12 of darkness. Is this the best way, or should I leave them on all the time like I could do, say, growing weed in the veg. stage? Someone told me my first time 8-12 hours of indirect sunlight is all that is needed, and that if you could read a book under the light you use you are okay. Please, if you will, give me the best way if you can! Thanks.
Also, after inoculating the jars, I have heard they can be left in light it doesn't matter, heat doesn't matter, but from what I have read darkness is the best way, and mild heat doesn't hurt either... heck, maybe a little light when they get closer to being done? I just need a pro like you guys to help me do this the most productive way. The Mycodome is a 3-in-one system and it has a stage for incubation where you can place the jars into it and seal them as it rests inside another bucket with water inside of it that is warmed by an underwater heater and a fairly advanced thermometer that monitors the temp. inside of the sealed bucked with the inoculated jars. I just want to know the best way to do this, and I'm sure some of you pros could tell me the best thing to do.
Ok I'm almost done wasting your time, just one last thing. Dunking. Mycodome says they loose a lot of moisture after full colonization, so make sure there are no contaminants (anything besides white and light blue), remove the excess vermiculite, and dump out the cake on a very sterile surface. Next, fill a large Tupperware container with spring water due to more natural minerals for the cakes than tap water. Add the cakes into the container, place the lid on, and give them a light swirl (gently flip upside down and right-side up twice. Next, they say they need to sit for a total of 24 hrs. Refrigerate for 12 hours, when that time is up, then flip the container upside down and let it sit the other 12 hours and you are ready to fruit your cakes. Is this a good method? If there is a better way, please let me know.
Finally, my last question. If you are still reading, I'd probably give you a hug.... if your a women. lol. Handshake will do for a man, and a fist full of Cambodians for everyone!!  I plan on making a spore print, but I am not going to ask about that because I'm sure I can find it on here fairly easily. Just want to know when is the best time to pick the mushrooms. I know the veil has to break, but if you want to grow a monster, how can you know if you are letting them grow too long? I don't want the spores to drop on the cakes as I've heard they can do. Also, I don't want to damage the other mushrooms on the cakes if I take one or two off that are matured to give a test run, so whats the safest way to do that without hurting the others. And finally.... Flushing the cakes. When you pick your mushrooms, more will tend to grow, correct? I have heard even from my friend that he has fully picked cakes and more keep growing. Are there any ways to initiate flushing... I've seen someone else put their cakes in a pie tin with some more substrate of some kind, and my friend says he grows using rye grain. 1 quart of casing soil, 1 quart of shredded wheat straw when hes not doing cakes. Anyways, that does it.
THANK YOU SOOO MUCH, SORRY IT'S SOO LONG BUT IF YOU LIVED NEAR ME I WOULD DEFIANTLY TAKE CARE OF YOU!!!
Thank god for the helpers of stupid newbies like me. At least my first grow had one good tequila spike that gave some giggles. Hopefully with your answers on all of this, I'll have more than one, which was about an 8th. The other unfinished cakes got green mold spots, and had little shrooms but I chucked em and almost gave up... until now. Thanks again, and have a great day.
-Hexum
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Samurai_Jim
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Re: Newbie needs to do my Cambodian's Right!!! Help, please! :c) [Re: hex311]
#7877857 - 01/14/08 11:30 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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I'd like to have the recipe of the substrate mix. ask him what it is. You can never know too much.
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Civ
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Re: Newbie needs to do my Cambodian's Right!!! Help, please! :c) [Re: Samurai_Jim]
#7877941 - 01/14/08 11:50 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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What kinda friend told you to fruit your cakes like that?! The begginer teks here walk you through this all. All your questions, save for the ones reffering to mycodome have all been ansered many times over and just require a simple search- and it provides great results.
Any advice after the fact that you already fruited at 70% isn't going to matter, those cakes are done.
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hex311
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Re: Newbie needs to do my Cambodian's Right!!! Help, please! :c) [Re: Civ]
#7878085 - 01/14/08 12:23 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Quote:
What kinda friend told you to fruit your cakes like that?! The begginer teks here walk you through this all. All your questions, save for the ones reffering to mycodome have all been ansered many times over and just require a simple search- and it provides great results.
Any advice after the fact that you already fruited at 70% isn't going to matter, those cakes are done.
That picture was the mess up, and I didn't follow his advice. That was old, and after removing 3 of them I did get several good sized caps I printed. This isn't about the old screwed up one, I know I didn't know much then, but I've been reading and asking for the best advice on the questions I asked on this one, thanks
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hex311
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Re: Newbie needs to do my Cambodians Right!!! Help, please! :c) [Re: hex311]
#7878111 - 01/14/08 12:28 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Sorry I did something dumb my first time, Civ. At least my girl and I got to enjoy a few and one big one for a print. So if someone could take some time, I'm not a forum expert, I'm just trying to do this right, sorry I f-ed up my last grow, those were not the same substrates and I did it on my own. That's why I did some research and asked for some answers to what I asked this time, not the old grow. Thanks.
As for the recipe for my friends amazing substrates, I'll get in touch with him when I can because he's in New Orleans for a concert right now. But I've seen them before, watched him make them and mine, and I will post it for all to enjoy. I just need some answers on the questions I posted this time because I look around and can't find exact answers to the questions I have from one of you pros out there. Thanks for the help, and best regards.
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BlargIAmDead
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Re: Newbie needs to do my Cambodians Right!!! Help, please! :c) [Re: hex311]
#7880305 - 01/14/08 08:24 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Well no experience with the Mycodome but I hear tell that it works. You can do the same with about 40 bucks a 1/4" drill and drill motor, some patience and water . Look up shotgun terrarium or watch the RR videos on youtube. As for incubation temps and parameters, here's what you do. Find a place in your home you are comfortable in a t shirt. Or if you live in like Canadia put them above your fridge in the cupboard. You can incubate in full light, they won't pin until full colonization has taken place. Pretty much put them on a shelf in an area that stays around 70-75 degrees constantly and leave them alone.
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hex311
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Re: Newbie needs to do my Cambodians Right!!! Help, please! :c) [Re: BlargIAmDead]
#7883008 - 01/15/08 11:44 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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thanks for the answer. i should be alright putting them in the Mycodome's incubation bucket, which rests on a bucket of water with a heater in it and the incubation bucket has a temp. string that goes to a digital temp. monitor display, so I can set the water to keep it at 70-75 degrees Fahrenheit. But during this stage, is it better to have the light on (i have two EcoGrow fluorescent fixtures) or give it darkness.... or darkness for 3/4 the incubation until the jars are almost ready then light? What works the best and will be more productive in the end, if you know. Thanks for the experience and guidance.
Best Regards, Hex
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