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Heart, Brain, or Soul....?
#7876680 - 01/14/08 12:37 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Which of the following statement is quantitatively more endearing....?
1) I love you with all of my Heart....
2) I love you with all of my Brain....
3) I love you with my very Soul....
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7876743 - 01/14/08 12:47 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Number 3
Its way deeper
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7876808 - 01/14/08 01:00 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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4.) We're the same soul manifesting in distinct yet complementary forms in order to hold a blessed experience of being one.
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i'll go with soul
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fireworks_god said: 4.) We're the same soul manifesting in distinct yet complementary forms in order to hold a blessed experience of being one.
Do you happen to know that you are the most amazing and beautiful being that has ever existed? 
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7877042 - 01/14/08 03:45 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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All of them.
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: Gomp]
#7877058 - 01/14/08 03:54 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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All of them sound slightly mentally handicapped.
People, come on.
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7877480 - 01/14/08 09:21 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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PhanTomCat said: Which of the following statement is quantitatively more endearing....?
1) I love you with all of my Heart....
2) I love you with all of my Brain....
3) I love you with my very Soul....
>^;;^<
In the context of what you wrote number two is the only one that is valid IMO.
I say this because you are romanticizing love whether you're talking about romantic (so called) love or not.
No one loves anyone or anything with all of anything. It just ain't humanly possible from what I have seen. Even unconditional love (real love) accepts but still has preferences.
That stuff makes for really good selling Hallmark cards however.
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7877874 - 01/14/08 11:34 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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sweet talk there should be a secial forum for it how to pretend you mean something more than the next guy.
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7877940 - 01/14/08 11:50 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Do you happen to know that you are the most amazing and beautiful being that has ever existed?
As neither you nor FWG have known all the people that ever existed, nevermind on an intimate level, I am going to surmise that this is mere romantic hyperbole...
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I heard FWG tried to be intimate with everyone, but not everyone was home.
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: Icelander]
#7877965 - 01/14/08 11:57 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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This dosen't really fit under the topic of philosophy or spirituality.
I suppose maybe Phil. Language.
1,3. Are traditional, as folk physiology attributes love to the heart, and even more to the soul.
2. I've never heard this used as a phrase, ever.
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OrgoneConclusion said: As neither you nor FWG have known all the people that ever existed, nevermind on an intimate level, I am going to surmise that this is mere romantic hyperbole...
Surmise away; it is your perspective of reality that you are creating.
Other people find other meaning in the same words - communication is not simply about one viewpoint of what is expressed, it is what is understood to be conveyed, an interaction between the individual that is speaking and the intended audience. Alternate viewpoints on what is occuring regarding the communication are appreciated, but ultimately do not affect the nature, meaning, or reality of what is being shared within the communication.
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: crumblebum]
#7878007 - 01/14/08 12:07 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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crumblebum said: 2. I've never heard this used as a phrase, ever.
But, this seems the most logical, as emotions are manifested in the brain.... If someone is looking for a "truth", this would seem to be the most endearing.... Although, tradition says that the heart and the soul to be more full of merit for the statement....

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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7878052 - 01/14/08 12:16 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Next time when you are feeling an intense emotion, I suggest trying to distinguish whether you feel it at the top of your head or in your chest. Emotions may be interpreted in the brain with our thoughts - this is actually a kind of second emotion, better described as "feelings". Emotions themselves are felt as physical responses.
Taking this into account, I don't believe it is logical to say "I love you with all of my brain." It may be more logical to say "My brain is telling me that I love you." I don't like the impersonalized tone of this so I would choose 1 or 3.
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7878073 - 01/14/08 12:20 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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As an emotive utterance, it can't be said to have any truth value, as it's generally assumed that you cannot prove emotional states. The only other approach is to reguard all emotive utterances as true, as the speaker is the only one with access to the material. That said, how would one love with all of one's brain? Only a portion of the brain is dedicated to emotions. You couldn't love someone with your motor control, or your reflexive responses, or the white structural tissue.
Reguardless, as it is a phrase designed to elicit an emotional response, and not really to convey any truth, which one is the most literally true is still irrellevent.
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EternalCowabunga said: Emotions themselves are felt as physical responses.
Can you please explain the physical/bodily responses you are talking about for some of the main emotive feelings....? Like; happy, sad, mad, love.... I have not been in love for a long time, so my memory isn't that clear on that one anymore....
I do however know the "pucker factor" feeling when you narrowly escape great bodily harm (perhaps from driving a car).... Not sure if there is a specific emotion tied to that, but it can be emotional, and can cause bodily feelings/tingles....
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: crumblebum]
#7878135 - 01/14/08 12:33 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Language can be used in different ways. One thing I've noticed in learning different languages, such as Norwegian or Romanian, is that there are often phrases consisting of the same words that, on their own, mean something that is in no way an aspect of the meaning of the phrase itself.
To those who understand the meaning of the phrase when these words are used in relation to each other in this manner, the statement is entirely, literally true. To those who, similarily, use phrases such as these, the statement is literally true, even if, from a different perspective, it does not convey literal meaning.
The same words can mean entirely different things. The trouble is that, far too often as humans, we preconceive meaning by assuming objective meaning in words. To limit ourselves to one particular world view because others speaking from a different vantage point use the same words that do not mean the same thing from our perspective is nothing but elitism. Those who feel that it is necessary that a strict, objective meaning for every word must be consensual for all in understanding and in usage is likely resultant from an insecurity that information exists that is not intended for them to understand, that everything must exist in a manner in which it involves them in some way.
Some of these same people hold a viewpoint that you must know how to speak a language to reside within a certain country, and would wish to use force to ensure that this happens. Not knowing the language, of course, is a disadvantage to being able to conduct one's affairs and navigate the social reality that surrounds them, but to force another to abide by one's own sense of meaning and language is insane, to think that what others are saying with the same words is not true because it is not how one would use the words is simply ignorant.
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: crumblebum]
#7878144 - 01/14/08 12:35 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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So, to be correct, the statement would have to be reworded to, "I love you with all of the parts of my brain that are dedicated to emotional processes...."
And not one cell more than that....!  Mixing Love and Philosophy together seems like mixing sloppy and technical together....
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7878146 - 01/14/08 12:36 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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PhanTomCat said: I do however know the "pucker factor" feeling when you narrowly escape great bodily harm (perhaps from driving a car)....
The pucker factor?
I've noticed in close call situations such as these, I feel a clarity in my sense of being, pure alertness, and an empowerment to act in appropriate response. I try to bring this into all of my life, and the best way is to consciously contemplate the inevitability of one's own death.
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7878157 - 01/14/08 12:38 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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I'm not very well studied in psychology so I don't know how much I can really explain the connection of feeling and emotion, other then say something like "it feels like you are happy." Maybe one of the bodily responses would be that you have an increase in energy.
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fireworks_god said: I feel a clarity in my sense of being, pure alertness, and an empowerment to act in appropriate response.
Yes, it does all that too, but also makes your butt pucker.... 
>^;;^<
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7878193 - 01/14/08 12:47 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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How does that tie in to alien probing?
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#7878208 - 01/14/08 12:50 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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PhanTomCat said:
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fireworks_god said: I feel a clarity in my sense of being, pure alertness, and an empowerment to act in appropriate response.
Yes, it does all that too, but also makes your butt pucker.... 
>^;;^<
He IS Sexy Butt McDanger after all, but I'm afraid to inform him yet of the bare truth... which is that it will be HIS butt that will get all puckered.
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This all basically illustrates why Philosophy of Language is a small field.
Philosophy is the parent of all sciences, and that means that eventually it has to say goodbye to it's children, cut the apron strings, so to speak.
This field was origionally called Rhetoric, and was a part of greek philosophy. It eventually birthed Public Speaking, Psychology, etc. These are sciences unto themselves, no longer grouped with philosophy.
Philosophy of the Mind is becoming less relevent as it's replaced first by Psychology and then by Neuroscience. Philosophy has nothing left to say on these subjects of any relevence, now that we have the capacity to observe.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go to my Phil. class, Ethics and Value Theory. Ethics is really one of the last places Philosophy has any standing. Still, I'm sure I'll find something to do with a Bachelors in Phil. Like growing mushrooms.
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I heard that the aliens give you a powerful muscle relaxer before probing....  That is why memories are so hazy....
>^;;^<
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Re: Heart, Brain, or Soul....? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7878256 - 01/14/08 12:59 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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MushroomTrip said:
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PhanTomCat said:
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fireworks_god said: I feel a clarity in my sense of being, pure alertness, and an empowerment to act in appropriate response.
Yes, it does all that too, but also makes your butt pucker.... 
>^;;^<
He IS Sexy Butt McDanger after all, but I'm afraid to inform him yet of the bare truth... which is that it will be HIS butt that will get all puckered.
Might wanna~ give him a muscle relaxer.... 

>^;;^<
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