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ggpr
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: ShroomDoom]
#10750901 - 07/27/09 05:38 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Limonene is pretty damn expensive and generally most people would have to order it online. That was the main reason i didn't use that tek. I know you can substitute the limonene with xylene but if i was gonna do that i probably wouldn't use vinegar for the acid, and the whole tek would start changing to a citrate/hcl extraction.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: ggpr]
#10752057 - 07/27/09 09:16 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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ggpr said: Limonene is pretty damn expensive and generally most people would have to order it online. That was the main reason i didn't use that tek. I know you can substitute the limonene with xylene but if i was gonna do that i probably wouldn't use vinegar for the acid, and the whole tek would start changing to a citrate/hcl extraction.
vinegar works great. its easy to use as well. no hassle at all.
the acetate form is a little waxy when you first scrape it. when you chop it up and put it in a pile to dry it will eventually become more like DMT crystals in consistency. works great. i tested out .1 this weekend at a psytrance party and danced all night. haha i remember looking at a star and the huge halo it had coming off of it it looked like a snowflake and i said to my girl " wow that snowflake in the sky looks a lot like a star" lol
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: ShroomDoom]
#10769453 - 07/30/09 03:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Limonene or toluene can be substituted for the xylol.
Hydrochloric, sulfuric, acetic, tartaric, and who knows what else can be substituted for the citric.
Other strong bases can be substituted, but if you want a "food grade" base, they make food grade NaOH.
IN ANY CASE, it should be made clear that there are no residual petrochemicals remaining in the final product. Also, no base will make it into your mescaline.
There might be a feel good factor in using substitutions, but unless you start drinking potions before they dry, you will not be exposed to anything toxic when you follow this recipe as written.
But as always, you are free to do as you wish.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#10771016 - 07/30/09 09:11 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haha my mescaline extraction has been nothing but hell.
First I messed up by getting NaOH in my acid extraction. Then, I acidified the crystals to ph 3 (to make the mescaline to HCl salt form). Anyway I ended up with 10.8 grams of crystals which tasted VERY salty (NaCl). Also the typical NaCl square crystals were very visible. So I saturated dH2O with this NaCl-mescaline mixture, heated to boiling, and slowly cooled to room temp and placed in an ice bath. A shit ton of NaCl fell out of solution and was discarded. (it was only NaCl, the characteristic square crystals were again clearly visible). Then, with most of the NaCl out, the rest of the water was evaporated at 200-250F for 30 minutes. (yeah i know, i am extremely impatient to let it evaporate, but I don't have a good spot in my house to do this evaporation) and i'm not concerned with the shape/beauty of these mesc crystals really. anyway i then got 2.9g of product, which still tastes slightly salty. I'm going to do the 4th pull of the xylene-naoh-cactus jar tonight and combine this and evaporate it all. I'm going to yellowstone soon so I hope I have good mescaline by the time that comes around!
Edited by WonkierBubble (07/30/09 09:12 PM)
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: WonkierBubble]
#10772529 - 07/31/09 03:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patience.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#10773553 - 07/31/09 09:38 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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04281969 said: Patience.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
#10827541 - 08/09/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can now confirm that the mescaline citrate i posted is kick ass! 600mg had me flying for around 12 hours, with full on visuals and a great body high. I still felt a tiny bit nauseous for the first couple hours of the trip, but it was much better than after having drank the tea. This is definitely my new favorite way to ingest mescaline!
Thanks again for the awesome tek!
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: ggpr]
#10832392 - 08/10/09 10:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOL good to hear man, enjoy!!!
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
#10835730 - 08/10/09 08:42 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good to know that you are happy with the result. I knew you would be. I could tell that you followed the directions pretty well just by looking at the picture. Now it's just a matter of tweaking it to get the most from your cactus.
You can also try recrystallizing. The end product will look different depending on how many alkaloids are linked to each acid molecule. Here's some that was recrystallized from what used to be pretty fluffy stuff.

It's not that important when you're dealing with plus or minus another 50mg of powder, but it's another facet to it. Just something else you can tinker with, and it gives you a little more control over your product. Some call it a pain in the ass. Different point of view, I guess.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: UberDeepName]
#10875010 - 08/17/09 09:59 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Can you substitute with muriatic acid and washing soda with this procedure?
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What are folks using to seperate each 1/10th cup acid water from the xylene?
I have the standard ~10" wine thieves. Will that work? Im aprehensive about "grabbing" that small a quantity of water with that particular apparatus.
I have studdied the tek and have everything else I need including due patience and respect. This is the only part of the procedure that Im a little aprehensive on. I can order a large dropping pipet, but would rather not. Any input helps. thanks.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: moe.ron]
#10884084 - 08/18/09 04:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Turkey baster?
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Baster is bigger/clumsier than a theif. 10th of a cup aint a lot of liquid...
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: moe.ron]
#10884236 - 08/18/09 05:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Look for or plastic one that made like a big needle...
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Ill bump this once in an effort to get an actual answer...
If you have done this tek, what did you use to seperate the acid water from the solvent?
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: moe.ron]
#10888935 - 08/19/09 10:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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SO EASY!! Place the jar with the xylene/acidic water in the freezer and when the acidic water will freezes pour off the xylene simple as trhat
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
#10889919 - 08/19/09 02:05 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I use a long dropper pipette.

-------------------- HCL x 1.63 = M.C. H2SO4 x 1.3 = M.C. H2SO4 x .80 = HCL M.C. x .61 = HCL M.C. x .77 = H2SO4 HCL x 1.25 = H2SO4
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: ShroomDoom]
#10890523 - 08/19/09 03:33 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Exactly what im trippin on right now used same tek also. peace.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate *DELETED* [Re: LaughingSoDreamy]
#10891413 - 08/19/09 05:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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It means that you can technically eat a handful of citric acid. This does not hold true for sulphuric acid
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