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alkaloidian
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#10706292 - 07/19/09 09:14 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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i made the second pull and i added it to the first shit that i froze i left it for a couple of hours and i think it was to acidic somefuckin how and it is all gone..... shitty
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: alkaloidian]
#10706358 - 07/19/09 09:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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and dude i cant freeze precipitate the citric water is milk i cant see through the shit to c the crystals do you think i should dulute it so i can c the crystals at the bottom
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: alkaloidian]
#10714771 - 07/21/09 11:59 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I suggest you do an isopropyl extraction and make sure you are using the right cactus, etc.
I really don't have any idea what you've done. It's like telling someone to make ice tea and they come back to tell you that it turned out as orange juice. I can't explain it because I don't know what you did.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: alkaloidian]
#10714792 - 07/21/09 12:03 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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alkaloidian said: i made the second pull and i added it to the first shit that i froze i left it for a couple of hours and i think it was to acidic somefuckin how and it is all gone..... shitty
You froze both, and it "went shitty"? What does "going shitty" mean? Do you have a camera?
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alkaloidian said: and dude i cant freeze precipitate the citric water is milk i cant see through the shit to c the crystals do you think i should dulute it so i can c the crystals at the bottom
So, did you freeze it or didn't you?
If the "milk" were mescaline citrate in suspension, it would come together when it freezes, and fall out of the water when it thaws again.
I've had plenty of crystals start forming in my room-temp water, but I don't recall ever dealing with anything too "milky". Personally, I think you screwed up somewhere, but I couldn't begin to guess where. I would tell you to evaporate everything and try it out, but I don't trust that milk.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#10720443 - 07/22/09 11:55 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have experienced that be for.After I separate my acidic water from the xylene,the water/alkaloid mixture is a "light milky color"(I should say very cloudy)and when I evaporate the "milky water" I always end up with a lot of alkaloids.So IME the "milky" colored water means you have a a pretty good bit of alkaloids suspend in the water.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
#10720476 - 07/22/09 12:02 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am still waiting for a PM from some of you guys who claim to get 3-5 grams of finished product from 100g's of powder cactus.I believe I have this tek down,but I the most I have extracted was 3 grams from 228 grams.I have used two different vendors and end up with the same out come.So I will ask again.SOMEONE PLEASE! send me a link to the vendors you are using to achieve such a nice yield.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
#10720864 - 07/22/09 01:08 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's what I was thinking, if it's cloudy it should be mescaline, but if it's so opaque that he can't see ANYTHING through it and it's white like he's been cleaning out his white paint brushes in it, then I don't know...
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#10724605 - 07/22/09 11:40 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am going to do this. 
So I live in Europe, I got all the equipment necessary EXCEPT the GALLON JUG. Impossible to find here...... anybody have any ideas? I'm thinking a big wine bottle would be the best way to go...
It's ironic knowing I was born in Kansas raised on pop tarts and apple cider. haha
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: up_right]
#10726036 - 07/23/09 09:31 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just about everything is available on the internet. For a price.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#10726133 - 07/23/09 09:56 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Today I found a jar that works...
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: up_right]
#10726213 - 07/23/09 10:24 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Will baking San Pedro/Peyote in an oven to dry it destroy the mescaline? I suppose a low enough temp. won't bother. At what temp. does mesc. break down?
I think I remember reading this somewhere in this thread, but I can't seem to find it...
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: up_right]
#10726445 - 07/23/09 11:29 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would think that you should be able to grind up fresh and use it as is. Just use less water to dilute the lye.
If you go by the 10% rule of thumb, you could blend up 2.2 pounds of fresh cactus skins and see how much room that leaves you in the jug.
Just so long as you have three quarts cactus/water/lye and one quart xylol, you should be good to go.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#10726618 - 07/23/09 12:05 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you very much! Best thread EVER.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: up_right]
#10726685 - 07/23/09 12:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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If I have this correct, you just use the de-spined skin from the San Pedro right, not the chunks or core? So the 100 grams mentioned in this tek, thats JUST skin and it is weighed dry, right? So If someone I know were to purchase 10 Kilo's of Oddball San Pedro Cactus approximately how much dried skin could he have to extract from? If anyone can answer that question perhaps you could also tell me approximately how much crystal he would be looking to extract from that amount?
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Meoraine]
#10726977 - 07/23/09 01:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not sure. There are a lot of factors involved.
To be on the safe side, you could probably even throw the whole thing into the blender. There was a tek around here where a guy started with whole cactus that he passed through a sink disposal (mounted on a little table).
...but let's say if you cored it and used half of the cactus, that brings it down to 5 Kilos. Dry weight estimated at 500g. So, depending on the potency, I'd guess between 5 - 20g of mescaline citrate from that much SP.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#10732560 - 07/24/09 12:06 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah that sounds about right, my friend will probably give it a go so I will get back to you with his findings.. thank you much.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Meoraine]
#10738326 - 07/25/09 02:41 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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i dont go through venders for mine the cactus i use is about 20-30 years old i just go into the older neighboorhoods and offer people like 20 bucks for a 10 foot arm they grow in clusters of 15-20 arms on one i also read online that the age of your cactus and how much heat it withstands in its life plays a vital role in the mescaline content i dont think the vendors are using 30 year old cactus in the powder you order. in phx you can find some pretty old cactus...... ill get some picks of the xylene and milk citric it starts clear and in 5 min its milk ...and i didnt freeze the second pull or add distilled to it i just through it in the pan with the first pull i made that was frozen with distilled and it ate it i find it realy hard to come out with a ph of 7 after the pulls
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: alkaloidian]
#10738396 - 07/25/09 03:03 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh yeah and if you are using cactus that wasnt ordered in a powder remove the outside layer that looks like masking tape when you remove it the next layer looks like fresh tree moss and that is the skin you want to use. if you keep that tape layer on you arent getting 100 grams of true cactus skin the powder that you order might or might not have that first layer removed ..some of the sites promote it on the page but then again you never no if they did or not..... i hope this might help you guys answer some of your q's on the amount of alkaloids you are going to have in your cactus
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: alkaloidian]
#10747153 - 07/27/09 02:10 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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in the handbook of chemistry and physics the boiling point for mescaline is 185 degrees i think you should sun dry it and if its taking to long then put it under cardboard in the sun to dry your cactus or maybe rap the pieces in newspaper as well all the above induce quicker dry time that is what i used to cure my buds:>
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: alkaloidian]
#10749432 - 07/27/09 01:35 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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i personally feel citric acid is a pain in the ass.
i prefer 69 rons 100% food safe mescaline extraction tek.
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