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Offlineprayformojo
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #10437382 - 06/01/09 07:42 PM (15 years, 29 days ago)

alright I have a couple quick and related questions.  after salting, what can be done to reduce the volume of water to evaporate (assume for the sake of this question that doing a freeze/ice water bath precipitation isn't possible)?  is it safe to use heat, like the stove (boiling or lower) or the oven, to improve the rate of evaporation?  especially, will it cause unsafe acid vapors to form or will it cause any loss of mescaline?  lastly, I know this thread is about mescaline citrate, but would the answer to my questions change if I were to use hydrochloric or sulfuric acid instead?

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: HelloSinEight]
    #10437581 - 06/01/09 08:18 PM (15 years, 29 days ago)

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HelloSinEight said:
Why not do it Shaman style and grow your own san pedro, cut it into slices while fresh, get a pot of simmering water, and wait two hours. If done right, one cup or less is all needed.





Because shaman style tastes like satan's asshole.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #10438021 - 06/01/09 09:33 PM (15 years, 29 days ago)

Hello again people.  I hope that everyone is having a fantastic summer! 

Patience is the key to successful mescaline extraction. 

>>gong<<

Seriously though, using the oven will make your mescaline citrate melt and form a hard shell coating on your dish.  You can scrape it back up with a razor blade, but it is tough as lacquer and you can scratch the glass at the corners with the blade.  General pain in the ass.

A hair dryer might speed the water reduction, but don't melt down or blow away anything that actually dries. 

Or just allow for an extra day. 
Use that time to relax.

And, I agree that it is much better than Satan's asshole.


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HCL x 1.63 = M.C.
H2SO4 x 1.3 = M.C.
H2SO4 x .80 = HCL
M.C. x .61 = HCL
M.C. x .77 = H2SO4
HCL x 1.25 = H2SO4

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
    #10444010 - 06/02/09 08:12 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

I have a new question:

Does tyramine get extracted into the citrate? If not, I could see using MAOIs much more freely in heightening the trip.

I'm also curious about Hunter S. Thompson's use of this drug. In the book "The Joke's Over" Ralph Steadman gives the impression that HST was popping mescaline pills all the time in daily life. Given that this drug works as a stimulant I'd like to hear more about that. On Thursday I'm going to test out some "wash" which should contain around ~75mg or less and see what happens. If I had a mg scale I would test out below threshold doses a bunch of times to learn more about it because there doesn't seem to be much info on this drug at all.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PyroBurns]
    #10445442 - 06/03/09 12:34 AM (15 years, 28 days ago)

Hunter S. Thompson also drank everyday.

He does talk about mescaline being a favorite. His symbol his a fist holding a peyote button.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Odum]
    #10445457 - 06/03/09 12:38 AM (15 years, 28 days ago)

Does this produce the same experience and drinking the mescaline (san pedro derived) tea? I want the full san pedro experience, are any alkaloids that effect the trip lost in this extraction?


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #10446048 - 06/03/09 05:13 AM (15 years, 28 days ago)

IMO the teas sucks compared to the extract in so many more ways than one :smile:

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
    #10446125 - 06/03/09 06:01 AM (15 years, 28 days ago)

Is it possible to substitute naptha for xylene in this procedure? I can't seem to find xylene anywhere, and I'd really rather not have to order it.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: ChrisWho]
    #10446563 - 06/03/09 09:25 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I do not think so(I believe I have asked the same question)go to Home Depot,and in the paint section ask for Xylol,it is the same thing.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: ChrisWho]
    #10446564 - 06/03/09 09:25 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

No naptha.

As for alkaloids, some are lost but some are kept which probably heightens the mescaline ratio. I need to experiment more with my extracts but from what I've seen it's good stuff. I'm not going to say the tea sucks but, trust me, when you have a pile of citrate you're going to be pretty damn happy. It's good stuff.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PyroBurns]
    #10455339 - 06/04/09 05:21 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

If you do five extractions using 1/5 of the citric acid solution each time, then evaporate everything (just like the first post says), and eat the end product, then the sensation should be indistinguishable from the cactus "tea".  Aside from the lack of nausea and green flavor in your throat.

It's only when you start freezing out and collecting the crystals that you begin to pare it down to its most abundant compound (which in this case is mescaline citrate).

Also, the potency might surprise you.  I get a lot more from a proper extraction than from tea.  For example, let's say I produce 4g of mescaline citrate per 100g of dry cactus skin with this extraction.  That's 8 trips at 500mg of mescaline citrate powder.  500mg of mescaline citrate is roughly equal to a 25g "tea" in my experience.  There are only four teas in that same 100g of dry skins, so that's like doubling your product.


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HCL x 1.63 = M.C.
H2SO4 x 1.3 = M.C.
H2SO4 x .80 = HCL
M.C. x .61 = HCL
M.C. x .77 = H2SO4
HCL x 1.25 = H2SO4

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #10455413 - 06/04/09 05:32 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

How would I go about drying my cactus, I have a 28 inch San Pedro I'm about to try finally.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #10455966 - 06/04/09 07:05 PM (15 years, 26 days ago)

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TheMerryGangster said:
How would I go about drying my cactus, I have a 28 inch San Pedro I'm about to try finally.




Your oven. UTFSE for specifics


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: TheMerryGangster]
    #10458336 - 06/05/09 05:15 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

sorry man I cannot help you with that,I have always skipped out on buying fresh cuttings and go straight to the pre-dried pieces or dried powder.
Another thing that I have learned from this,is that if your finished product is kind of chunky it is about 3 times less potent than the supper fine powder that you should end up with.At first my finished product was always a little chunky(I beleive that was because there was a lot more citric acid than mescalin in it)I would consume a min. of 1000mg.LOL the first time I finished up with the nice fluffy white powder I consumed my normal 100mg LOL that was a mistake.I felt as if I had taken almost 2500mg of the smi chunky product that I made before.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
    #10458340 - 06/05/09 05:20 AM (15 years, 26 days ago)

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04281969 said:

For example, let's say I produce 4g of mescaline citrate per 100g of dry cactus skin with this extraction.  That's 8 trips at 500mg of mescaline citrate powder. 



This is whats killing me.I have never been able to finish out with anything more than almost 3grams of finished product from 224gar ms of powder.Pleas let me know what I am doing wrong,and if I am doing everything right please send me a Link to you supplier.Thanks for all the help.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #10461474 - 06/06/09 02:43 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

I just would like to  say thanks to 04281969 for posting this tek.I have had a great year so far and finding this tek on Jan 1st at about 9:00am.This so far has made my year.I have has numerous failed attempts to buy LSD and so far almost all times have turned out to be DOx.LSD is my drug of choice and it really sucked to have to almost give up on the hunt to find some due to the flood of RC's now days.
After last night I think my search is over and I have found a new substance to take L's place.I consumed 900mg's last night of citrate and tripped my balls off,the experience was about equivalent to 3-5 hits of good LSD.I recommend everyone give this tek a try and GO BIG!

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #10469540 - 06/08/09 05:32 AM (15 years, 23 days ago)

anyone got any new pics they wanna let me drool over?

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Odum]
    #10474514 - 06/08/09 10:55 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

How much can one expect to yield from say a 12" cutting or the equivalent amount of skin from said 12" cutting?

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Denebola]
    #10474589 - 06/08/09 11:05 PM (15 years, 22 days ago)

How do you know the purity of the crystals? If you added citric acid solution to clean xylene and then evaporated it you would get crystals as well how can you separate the mescaline citrate from regular citric acid? Seems like an unpredictable way of dosing.

If you used HCl all crystals would be pure and unlike citric acid HCl can be evaporated off.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: crazyboy25]
    #10475502 - 06/09/09 02:53 AM (15 years, 22 days ago)

:rolleyes:


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