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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PyroBurns]
    #10408287 - 05/27/09 03:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

That looks fantastic! I wish my process went like that: I just finished with a 100g and a 50 g extraction and I got... 0.2 grams total. A failure, not due to the procedure itself, but to very weak (maybe pampered?) cactus, though I must say the few crystals I got are beautifully formed and extraordinarily bitter. I still got another 5 San Pedros (which add to 4 meters, with some segments 6 inches wide) that I bought from different sources, but feel reluctant to try again. So much time and effort invested, and the cactus are so pretty it breaks my heart to mutilate them again. Congratulations on your great job!

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Nostromo]
    #10408407 - 05/27/09 03:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #10408758 - 05/27/09 04:37 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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when you have the base water, cactus, and xylene in the jar together, how often do you have to shake it up?

then, when you pull the xylene off the top of the jar and put it into a new jar, you add 1/5 of half a cup of citric acid water correct?

then once you mix those 2, how long do you let them sit? the tek didnt go into detail about this part, so i get confused there. keep it in there for 24 hours? shake it up constantly?

i think im going to do another tar extraction and call it done. i dont like these chemicals...




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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #10408981 - 05/27/09 05:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I was just about to complete an extraction, but one of my friends told me that I was doing it wrong.  Is it true that you cannot just pulverize cactus before doing an extraction? My cacti is wet and I was wondering is it 100% necessary to be dried beforehand?


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: neopet nub]
    #10409018 - 05/27/09 05:24 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

this thread is great. must try my hand at an extraction some day.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: neopet nub]
    #10409030 - 05/27/09 05:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

For mixing I just mix the jugs whenever. At least once in the morning and once before bedtime then a whole bunch of times in between. I don't think that part is THAT important considering the xylene seperates fairly quickly and the only thing going on down there is cactus getting lye-ified.

Then when I pull it I put .8 oz of the mixture (I find it easier to mix enough for all the jugs in one jar then just dole out .8 oz for each) with the xylene and shake it once or twice in the span of 5 minutes.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PyroBurns]
    #10409050 - 05/27/09 05:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Jesus! I knew this pull was going to be heavy but look at this.






Thats what you are looking for!! good job

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #10409123 - 05/27/09 05:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

PilzeEssen said:
Quote:

PilzeEssen said:
when you have the base water, cactus, and xylene in the jar together, how often do you have to shake it up?

then, when you pull the xylene off the top of the jar and put it into a new jar, you add 1/5 of half a cup of citric acid water correct?

then once you mix those 2, how long do you let them sit? the tek didnt go into detail about this part, so i get confused there. keep it in there for 24 hours? shake it up constantly?

i think im going to do another tar extraction and call it done. i dont like these chemicals...






I have fucked this Tek up as in all ways possible I think
1)I have always had to add a tad bit me NaOH.
2)I found that if you let the mixture site for 2 days it breaks down the cactus slug.3)I shake the jug as many time as possible,I have also shaken only one time between pulls and it worked just fine.But what you are doing by shaking it is helping the cellular walls break down even more(I think).
3)I pull the xylene and eye ball a small amount of citric acid(about an eighth to a quarter up from the bottom).
4)I have not found anything that IMO safely removes such a small amount of water from a quart of xylene so I freeze the water in the jar(Takes like 1hr)
4)pour xylene back into cactus/base container.
5)Then wash the ice at the bottom of the jar and remove the ice and evaporate.
  Never fails.But I have never been able to extract More than 3 grams from 1lbs,so to all you cats claiming to get 5-8grams off a pound PLEASE! pm me with a link to your vendor.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
    #10409183 - 05/27/09 05:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Sep funnel makes this allot easier....

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #10409186 - 05/27/09 05:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

... so when i add the citric acid water to the top layer of xylene that i have put in a new container, how long do i keep them together?

do i shake the citric acid water/xylene mix and let it sit for 24 hours? or do i just shake it up a few times, then freeze the jar are pour the xylene off?


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #10409215 - 05/27/09 06:05 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

LOL sorry I'm stoned :smile: I forgot to add that part,I just shake the fuck out of it a few good times and freeze.
Shit evaporates in less than 12hrs with a fan placed in front of the dish you are using.

and by the way,dont give up on this.I have never tried mescaline in tar form,but this tek is not only IMO the best in house method for noobs and its a damn good learning experience.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #10409237 - 05/27/09 06:11 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i dont know much about chemistry (yet anyway, taking a summer chemistry class starting in a few weeks :awesome:) but i dont understand how citric acid water pulls the mescaline out of the xylene and converts it to mescaline citrate... can anyone explain this to me? i just feel like when i do this, the left overs would just be citric acid...

i attempted this tek once, and failed miserably due to a plastic turkey baster... but anyway, say i pull the xylene off and put it in a quart sized mason jar, how much citric acid water do i put in the mason jar with the xylene? the tek says to dissolve 2 grams of citric acid into a half cup of water, then only use 1/5 of the water for the first pull, and do 5 pulls altogether, which i assume means using 1/5 of a half cup of the acid water for each pull...

sorry for all the questions, ive very tempted to try this again. id rather have a better idea of things before i begin again.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #10409244 - 05/27/09 06:12 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Here's what I do:

Put xylene in a big jar.
Pour in .8 citric solution.
Shake
Do the same to other jars if I must(takes about 5 minutes)
Maybe shake some more and then wait a couple minutes
Then I put the baster to the bottom to suck up the water and move that to a smaller jar. From there I can easily suck off any xylene because jar I use is pretty small (therefore the layers are "taller")

Then that's it.

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PilzeEssen said:
i attempted this tek once, and failed miserably due to a plastic turkey baster... but anyway, say i pull the xylene off and put it in a quart sized mason jar, how much citric acid water do i put in the mason jar with the xylene? the tek says to dissolve 2 grams of citric acid into a half cup of water, then only use 1/5 of the water for the first pull, and do 5 pulls altogether, which i assume means using 1/5 of a half cup of the acid water for each pull...





Do the math. Half cup equals 4 oz, divided into 5 bits. .8 oz roughly per pull. I don't think being that exact is necessary but like I said I like to just fill a big jar with that and divide my pulls that way.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #10409528 - 05/27/09 07:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

PilzeEssen said:
i dont know much about chemistry (yet anyway, taking a summer chemistry class starting in a few weeks :awesome:) but i dont understand how citric acid water pulls the mescaline out of the xylene and converts it to mescaline citrate... can anyone explain this to me? i just feel like when i do this, the left overs would just be citric acid...

i attempted this tek once, and failed miserably due to a plastic turkey baster... but anyway, say i pull the xylene off and put it in a quart sized mason jar, how much citric acid water do i put in the mason jar with the xylene? the tek says to dissolve 2 grams of citric acid into a half cup of water, then only use 1/5 of the water for the first pull, and do 5 pulls altogether, which i assume means using 1/5 of a half cup of the acid water for each pull...

sorry for all the questions, ive very tempted to try this again. id rather have a better idea of things before i begin again.



I am not 100% sure(someone please correct me if I'm wrong) how this happens but I think the citric acid molecules bond to the mescaline molecules and then you have mescaline citrate.So with that being said your finished product contains some citric acid.If you do not like a small among of citric acid in  your finished product then us HCL and then wash the finished product with acetone.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #10429160 - 05/31/09 11:17 AM (15 years, 30 days ago)

What do I do with this? I cleaned all of my equipment with hot distilled water and I suspect it has lye in it. I want to evaporate it to see if there is any mescaline residue but don't know what to do.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PyroBurns]
    #10431058 - 05/31/09 05:25 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

I really dont understand what you are trying to do,but if I have the right idea if I was you I would not waist my time.If you have already cleaned your equipment I would think you have removed any remaining alkaloids.The best way to tell if your equipment still has NaOH residue put on a glove and wet the finger tips and wipe down the inside of the jars and if it fells like their is a slippery/soapy feeling then you still have some NaOH hanging around inside your containers.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #10431194 - 05/31/09 05:51 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

i cleaned my equipment and kept that water.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PyroBurns]
    #10431511 - 05/31/09 06:50 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

Why not do it Shaman style and grow your own san pedro, cut it into slices while fresh, get a pot of simmering water, and wait two hours. If done right, one cup or less is all needed.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: HelloSinEight]
    #10431516 - 05/31/09 06:51 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

Because we've done that and powder is nice.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: PyroBurns]
    #10431817 - 05/31/09 07:57 PM (15 years, 30 days ago)

I second that,and it also feels so nice to consume a nice almost pharmacutical looking powder that you produced instead of drinking some nasty ass green tea,and not to mention I like to measure my doses.

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