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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: P.Menace]
    #9935378 - 03/08/09 07:26 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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No but really, it looks ok, that yellow top layer is the xylene + mescaline. Maybe do a little recrystallization? That should make it look purty

EDIT - Oh, that yellow chunky layer? That looks like a bitch of an emulsion. Add lye to break it up.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #9935573 - 03/08/09 07:55 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

its not emulsion... there is no emulsion at all
theres also plenty of lye in there... the yellow is like a paper thin layer of what looks like crystals but i can never seem to get them out when siphoning... guess ill freeze the bottle and pour the xylene off and see if that gets it


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: P.Menace]
    #9939169 - 03/09/09 11:51 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

That's just a more buoyant cactus layer.  That layer thickness will vary if you shake it up and do some extractions.  Don't worry, your alkaloids are in the xylol, not concentrated in the top layer of silt.

My guess is that you were sloppy with your separations otherwise there would be no way for chlorophyll to get from the cactus, into the xylol, then to your aqueous layer.  I'd continue on with the HCl tek and wash your product.

Then again, I'm not experienced with using HCl.  Maybe it isn't chlorophyll.  Maybe the HCl turned something green?  In either case, I'd wash it.

Edited by 04281969 (03/09/09 09:04 PM)

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
    #9941377 - 03/09/09 06:07 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

same thing has happened to me befor.Might I add also those jars you are using suck!The lid does not screw on completely and after the jar gets all crust around the rim it will almost be impossible to get the lid off(I had to use a butter knife).Like 04281969 said dont worry.My jars also had the same yellow layer and I just pulled the xylene off the top and went from there.I fuck my last extraction up really bad and still ended up with 1.5 grams.I found that taller skinner jars are easier to work with than the short fat ones,I have always been able to remove more xylene from the taller jars. GOOD LUCK!

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #9944674 - 03/10/09 09:27 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
    #9944737 - 03/10/09 09:43 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

oy does 100%  of everything dangorous/toxic/unhealthy evaporate??


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: RedRabbit]
    #9945662 - 03/10/09 12:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Any xylol should evaporate off.  Once dry, it's gone.

Excess citric acid won't evaporate off, but it won't kill you.  If you're freeze precipitating, it isn't an issue.

It is also warned not to use aluminum. 

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
    #9959762 - 03/12/09 05:42 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

is it ok to reuse the xylene for future extractions?

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #9960800 - 03/12/09 07:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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DNBplus said:
is it ok to reuse the xylene for future extractions?



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Any xylol should evaporate off.  Once dry, it's gone.




If you figure out a way to unevaporate it, let me know.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: libertaire]
    #9963348 - 03/13/09 05:36 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Evaporate?????LOL I though the only thing you evaporated was the acid/water mix. LOL you pour the xylene back into the jars for your next pull.I was meaning after your last pull can you use the left over xylene for your next extraction.So someone who know what the fuck they are talking about please answer my question without making yourself sound ignorant.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #9963807 - 03/13/09 09:11 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

yes you can re-use your xylene.  It just gets more and more chlorophyll in it and you always lose just a tiny bit with each pull so you will need to top it up to a full liter when you reuse it.  I'd throw it out ofter reusing it a few times because it will get really dirty with slime and chlorophyll and could make separating the layers more difficult.

Libertaire, you could use a time-machine to reverse the continuum and thereby 'un-evaporate' your xylene...  :rofl:


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: travelleler]
    #9964385 - 03/13/09 11:54 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks,thats what I thought its the same with the naphtha when extracting DMT.

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #9966690 - 03/13/09 07:49 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

after my 4th pull I came up with nothing.I decided that I would do a fifth pull and I instead of using citric acid I use HCL and ended up with 300mg :smile:

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #9967060 - 03/13/09 09:09 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Ive noticed that I can repeatedly salt my xylene and pull alkaloids from it... like 1 salting phase just isnt enough to pull all the alkaloids in 1 shot


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: P.Menace]
    #9971667 - 03/14/09 05:06 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I always do 5 pulls,but usually after the 4th or 5th pull I come up with nothing(or just citric acid).

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
    #9972596 - 03/14/09 07:40 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

no... what i meant was on each pull doing the salting step several times... I have seemed to come up with a better yield every time like that


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: P.Menace]
    #9973828 - 03/14/09 11:22 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

hmm so do you mean you reuse the citric water or put each salting to the side for one xylene pull... i guess reusing would be pointless, just like having one long salting and shaking step...


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: SurReality]
    #9974600 - 03/15/09 02:01 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

yep... set each new salting aside to evaporate or however you prefer


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: P.Menace]
    #9983268 - 03/16/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I had great results with this tek a while back. I'm in the process of doing another jug as we speak. 1st pull was last night... 1.3 grams of crystals. Doing my 2nd tonight. This new cactus is potent.


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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: UberDeepName]
    #10010721 - 03/20/09 09:47 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

So a question comes to mind after yet another week of pulling... I noticed before that running the salting phase was pulling me a better yield per actual pull.... then I decided to try and run with an equal amount of Hydrochloric acid/water as solvent containing the alkaloids and found that it got me the same results as before but with less work running the salting phase over and over again.....
so my question is.... does an equal amount of alkaloid bond to an equal amount of acid in the salting phase or am i just going crazy trying to figure this out?


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