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enesi
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Entropymancer]
#8788089 - 08/17/08 07:42 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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heh, after reading some of his other posts, he seemed to be quite happy with this tek not to long ago. What's with the change of heart all of a sudden?
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: enesi]
#8788188 - 08/17/08 08:02 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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No idea. And like someone would want to post an intentionally mediocre tek? That's a strange thought process there.
Is there a part of the instructions that is vague or ambiguous? Is there one obvious thing that's tripping people up that needs to be clarified?
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#8793095 - 08/18/08 09:59 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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They are idiots or they are police? Who knows? I hope people use this tek because it is safe, simple and has great results.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: ethnoguy]
#9165251 - 10/31/08 04:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just wanted to bump this lest we forget that mescaline is one of the best things ever. So worth the time.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#9166278 - 10/31/08 10:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Glad this got bumped. New ppl are doing this tek all the time .
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: oxalic32]
#9278678 - 11/20/08 01:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Collect only xylene from the jug with the turkey baster. Do not include any of the cactus.
Next step, use the long dropper pipette to carefully collect only the water from the xylene. (At the last collection, you can get some xylene if you need to, then let it separate in the pipette and expell only the water into your collection jar. Or, you can separate by freezing.)
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Edited by oxalic32 (12/19/10 03:57 PM)
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: oxalic32]
#9280771 - 11/20/08 06:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Return xylene to the cactus solution and mix for another 24 hours. (Optionally, you can add 1 Tbsp lye to the jug after the third extraction.) Complete 5 extractions over 5 days to use all of the water.
So after the first extraction you return the xylene and wait. Is it best to add lye after the 3rd extraction? Maybe it would be best to add the extra tablespoon lye after the second run.
What exactly is repeated? You return the xylene to the jug, wait, and then recollect the xylene add the acidic solution collect the water solution to evap, then return the xylene and repeat that? Yes, but don't forget to shake it up during the 24 hour "wait".
The reason i'm confused is you say repeat the extraction 5 times, but it seems like "Step 1 - Extraction" has a bunch of steps that aren't repeated. It seems to me we're repeating Step 2 - Salting Just extracting the alkaloids into the xylol, then salting them out into the water.
After the 6 extractions total (1 then 5 repeats)this is when you dispose of the cactus solution left over? I meant to do a total of 5 runs. The best method is to use all of the acid in 4 runs, freeze the collection jar each time, thaw, collect the crystals that precipitate out, and then re-use the collected daily waters for the fifth and final run.
Also Toluene vs Xylene. I hear Toluene is "better" have you used it? If i use this tek i hear they're interchangable so i'd just use the same amount of Toluene as Xylene. I know alot of this seems very obvious but i always need to be 100% sure of what i'm doing before i work in the lab (school or otherwise). Give it a shot.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#9287645 - 11/21/08 07:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ha Ha, after almost 4 months of calling you a phoney ......your tek STILL sucks!! People still don't get it cuz it doesn't work. why can't you explain in plain english why your tek works? Because it doesn't. eight times out of ten. Roll the dice. C'mon man ..you're bogus. Just admit it and cut your losses. Explain in plain english how to acheive your wonderful pure mescaline crystals....with this "straight forward" TEK.
Yeah I'm a Cop. nice excuse. YOUR TEK SUCKS.!!!!!! Period.
See ya in another 4 months to prove my point.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: tobydoo]
#9287688 - 11/21/08 07:17 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've said it once I'll say it again. If you personally cannot get this tek to work then you cannot follow a simple recipe and you probably couldn't manage to bake a cake. This tek is exactly the same as any acid/base extraction tek except it uses citric acid rather then hydrochloric. Stop trolling and maybe enroll in a basic chem class, or maybe culinary arts school.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: tobydoo]
#9288758 - 11/21/08 10:20 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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tobydoo, please explain what step of his tek you think is erroneous.
It's plain simple chemistry. It works. It's no more difficult than baking a loaf of bread.
And what sort of "point" do you think you proved by coming back and talking shit 4 months later?? You haven't made any point yet, except to repeatedly demonstrate that you're incapable of following simple instructions and you like to blame others for your own ample shortcomings.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Entropymancer]
#9333761 - 11/29/08 06:59 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was thinking that maybe he has bought bogus cacti skins. I've seen cuzco and other pointless skins sold by a particular wholeseller. I'm not giving them up though. Its a commercial catalog.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: tobydoo]
#9336677 - 11/30/08 11:14 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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tobydoo said: Ha Ha, after almost 4 months of calling you a phoney ......your tek STILL sucks!! People still don't get it cuz it doesn't work. why can't you explain in plain english why your tek works? Because it doesn't. eight times out of ten. Roll the dice. C'mon man ..you're bogus. Just admit it and cut your losses. Explain in plain english how to acheive your wonderful pure mescaline crystals....with this "straight forward" TEK.
Yeah I'm a Cop. nice excuse. YOUR TEK SUCKS.!!!!!! Period.
See ya in another 4 months to prove my point.
Yea, you got me. You're right. I'm a fraud. Everyone else other than you has been fooling themselves with placebo effects.
Wow. You're really in tune with your body and its surroundings. Good for you. You must be a very sensitive and intelligent person. Now you know that all other A/B extractions are also fake as well. So too is all of modern medicine and the chemistry behind it. You're quite a de-bunker! You're like James Randi and Kevin Trudeau all rolled up in one. Quite impressive.
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#9336777 - 11/30/08 11:34 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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By the way, if you take it another step further and purify it, the trip feels much cleaner and more consistent. I've found that most of the tension, waves of good and bad, and sweaty feet are caused by some other alkaloids in the cactus.
To get it as pure as possible, you simply dissolve your dried mescaline in hot distilled water, then freeze, thaw, and separate the water again with a dropper. (Freeze the collected water again so you get as much back as possible.)
Maybe I should do another TEK, with more pictures including the freeze precipitation of crystals. Probably won't get the chance, so you'll have to get by with this.
Edited by 04281969 (11/30/08 02:13 PM)
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: oxalic32]
#9393577 - 12/08/08 04:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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If it's plastic, it needs to be HDPE#2 or the xylene could easily melt it. Better to try to find a glass one (or just seperate by successive decanting)
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#9393788 - 12/08/08 05:19 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the tek I intend to try it soon. Mescaline truly is wonderful stuff.
One question, hope somebody knows the answer. Would it be possible to use Heptane instead of Xylene?
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Entropymancer

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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Revelation]
#9393846 - 12/08/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, it would not. Heptane is a very poor solvent for mescaline, due do mescaline's methoxy groups at the 3-, 4-, and 5- positions (it's primary amine moiety doesn't help matters either)
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Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Entropymancer]
#9412059 - 12/11/08 10:56 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bump. Question, can I use tap water for the slurry?
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