|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
TreeMoss
I live in a Fox Hole

Registered: 12/05/08
Posts: 1,615
Last seen: 15 years, 5 days
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#9537107 - 01/03/09 10:25 AM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
|
|
I have a Q, how would the crystals be if you just dried the slurry spread out? I'm thinking probably not so good since the water must be warm to evap.......I'm just curious to how the crystals look in the cold water compared to evaporating........then again it doesn't matter since this method is clean and they need to be small to work in a gel cap.........but there is something about show crystals, even though showing is not that great of an idea in most urban settings.
But a group of hippies in the forest someplace, that would be a good one to show off some nice crystals......
-------------------- Drug chemicals are going to be more abundant and survive longer than any anti-drug agendas. Some of us are just ahead of the game, we already know what the future will understand. Drugs weren't bad but how some people used them were and some people just were bad because they had to be.
|
SurReality
PsychAdemic


Registered: 12/21/06
Posts: 11,808
Loc: Colorado, USA
Last seen: 1 year, 6 months
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#9539488 - 01/03/09 06:28 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
04281969 said:
Quote:
SurReality said: i suppose it gets more of mescaline to solidify since it's much colder, i still don't get that fully. but i suppose i will when i do it and see exactly what happens, unless of course there's a pictorial of this step.......
I don't see why you need a pictorial. What do you want to see?
The first picture would be of one of the little jars in the first picture of the thread one-quarter filled with water.
The second picture would be of that jar with the water in it frozen.
The third picture would be of a melting ice "puck" in the middle of the water, dropping out crystals as it thaws. There would also be a layer of white crystals under the floating, melting ice.
Fourth picture would show a dropper removing the melted water away from the crystalline sludge.
Fifth picture would show the addition of hot distilled water to aid in collection. Might be a two-parter showing the dissolved mescaline going into the collection dish.
What more do you need to know?
this works too, i'm sorry i'm just much better with visual instruction....
why wouldn't you just pour the whole jar through a filter and collect the salts from the filter and what every it left in the jar?
what is the point in re-dissolving after you just spent hours solidifying it??
-------------------- ProDOPEFiend Diary: (my public diary) PodCast
|
04281969
Hobbyist



Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 1,406
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: SurReality]
#9544342 - 01/04/09 03:15 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Do whatever you want. Just please do it quietly.
By using hot distilled water to transfer, you don't need to clean all of the mescaline out of a filter.
The crystals in the collection jar may be "solid", but they're not dry. A liquid is easier to transfer than cold grit.
What I am telling you is a very effective way to make mescaline citrate. It is the cheapest and easiest way of accomplishing these tasks. Of course you're free to experiment, but I believe that you will come to the same conclusions as I did.
|
04281969
Hobbyist



Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 1,406
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: TreeMoss]
#9544390 - 01/04/09 03:28 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
TreeMoss said: I have a Q, how would the crystals be if you just dried the slurry spread out? I'm thinking probably not so good since the water must be warm to evap.......
Crystals look all glittery. When crystals form quickly, they are smaller. Given the time to grow, they will be larger.
Water must be warm to evaporate?
Quote:
TreeMoss said: I'm just curious to how the crystals look in the cold water compared to evaporating........then again it doesn't matter since this method is clean and they need to be small to work in a gel cap.........
You're worried that your crystals will be too big to fit into a 00 capsule?
Quote:
TreeMoss said: but there is something about show crystals, even though showing is not that great of an idea in most urban settings.
But a group of hippies in the forest someplace, that would be a good one to show off some nice crystals......
Sulfate will make the best crystals. There are pictures if you're interested.
|
TreeMoss
I live in a Fox Hole


Registered: 12/05/08
Posts: 1,615
Last seen: 15 years, 5 days
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#9544438 - 01/04/09 03:36 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Wow, are we going to start that back up........you must wake up every day pissed or something.
No really man, long shards of mescaline aren't good for 00 caps......you know that!
And if you want to pic on me, what ever it isn't worth dealing with ever way your reading things.......I am six, what are you going to do about that hugh! Act like a cop and be all mean to me so you feel like your 26?
Anyways man, ya I know that crystals form differently with the temp...pretty sure I just said that in the post.
And I never asked what crystals look like, I have seen mescaline crystals....I have ingested them too. You could put large mescaline shards into a cap, but some grow longer than caps and it isn't a uniform way of filling doses or even a non wasteful use of get cap space.
Anyways man, I don't want to start this shit.....I think that post was very inappropriate and unfair. I asked a legitimate question about your final phase due to your personal observations, such as did you see any crystals drop out and form before the water froze.
And I have said many times now bro, I am not knocking your tek...
-------------------- Drug chemicals are going to be more abundant and survive longer than any anti-drug agendas. Some of us are just ahead of the game, we already know what the future will understand. Drugs weren't bad but how some people used them were and some people just were bad because they had to be.
|
DNBplus
true stoner


Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 982
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: SurReality]
#9544468 - 01/04/09 03:41 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
I would like to know if this tek works just by following the simple directions,and if a freeze is necessary to get your crystals,or can you just simply evaporate and then cap up your finished product?I would read the rest of the post but I dont feel like listening to people fighting so I will just ask.
|
Gastronomicus
3-0-G



Registered: 03/31/05
Posts: 9,727
Last seen: 8 hours, 30 minutes
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
#9544488 - 01/04/09 03:45 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
This tek works 100% as described in the first post. No other steps are needed.
-------------------- Make my Funk the P Funk, I wants to get Funked up
LAGM2024
|
04281969
Hobbyist



Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 1,406
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: TreeMoss]
#9544501 - 01/04/09 03:46 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Not knocking? You're knocking at every turn!
I'm trying to be nice, but it's hard when I'm used to returning like in kind.
You've accused me of not knowing what I'm doing, spreading misinformation, being gay, etc, etc...
You're a cunt, and your idiocy is epic.
Mescaline citrate crystals don't get much longer than 1/4 inch, and the crystals crunch down with NO EFFORT. You can't hurt a gelcap with mescaline citrate crystals.
And find out about relative humitity. You sound retarded.
|
DNBplus
true stoner


Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 982
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Gastronomicus]
#9544519 - 01/04/09 03:47 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Thank you,I did read that in the first post but I just want to make sure because other people put there opinion into it and I become confused and loose a little faith in what I had read.
|
Gastronomicus
3-0-G



Registered: 03/31/05
Posts: 9,727
Last seen: 8 hours, 30 minutes
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: DNBplus]
#9544584 - 01/04/09 03:54 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Yeah, this is for some reason one of the most hotly debated teks on this site. But the science is sound
-04281969
Just drop it, put him on ignore so your thread doesn't get locked. It would be a shame
-------------------- Make my Funk the P Funk, I wants to get Funked up
LAGM2024
|
DNBplus
true stoner


Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 982
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: Gastronomicus]
#9544653 - 01/04/09 04:02 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Gastronomicus said: Yeah, this is for some reason one of the most hotly debated teks on this site. But the science is sound
-04281969
Just drop it, put him on ignore so your thread doesn't get locked. It would be a shame
Tree moss I think you know your shit and respect you for that,but please stop you are making this post rather cloudy to understand(and not to mention discouraged to read the 16 pages of you arguing with the poster and others)IMO you might be onto something so start your own post and I think people will listen(including myself).
|
TreeMoss
I live in a Fox Hole


Registered: 12/05/08
Posts: 1,615
Last seen: 15 years, 5 days
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#9544718 - 01/04/09 04:10 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
04281969 said: Not knocking? You're knocking at every turn!
I'm trying to be nice, but it's hard when I'm used to returning like in kind.
You've accused me of not knowing what I'm doing, spreading misinformation, being gay, etc, etc...
You're a cunt, and your idiocy is epic.
Mescaline citrate crystals don't get much longer than 1/4 inch, and the crystals crunch down with NO EFFORT. You can't hurt a gelcap with mescaline citrate crystals.
And find out about relative humitity. You sound retarded.
I'm not trying to fight today, I was asking you questions and you fought them.......but thank you for answering one of them, since like I said if given the choice I'd grow larger crystals.
And I'm not a stupid person, I am getting stupid replies; usually something stupid like being angry and defensive fallowed by an answer.
Really though, I am not knocking the tek by asking questions; I am sorry that you feel that way.......if you didn't things would progress more, there would only be sharing of information and questions being answered instead of misunderstanding the words on the screen (which I have seen a ton of in replies). Every time someone claims I have spread an untruth, it is usually misunderstood; either you think that because I didn't state that I am not sure or that it is a question in my mind that you really believe that I'm stating something as a whole idea when it isn't. And some of the other things by the same people over and over again, are just pure misunderstandings of what it is I said......usually in a questioning nature, not as a whole truth that is being argued.
Peace!
-------------------- Drug chemicals are going to be more abundant and survive longer than any anti-drug agendas. Some of us are just ahead of the game, we already know what the future will understand. Drugs weren't bad but how some people used them were and some people just were bad because they had to be.
Edited by TreeMoss (01/04/09 04:13 PM)
|
SurReality
PsychAdemic


Registered: 12/21/06
Posts: 11,808
Loc: Colorado, USA
Last seen: 1 year, 6 months
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: SurReality]
#9545187 - 01/04/09 05:13 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
04281969 said: Fifth picture would show the addition of hot distilled water to aid in collection. Might be a two-parter showing the dissolved mescaline going into the collection dish.
What more do you need to know?
ok so you evaporate the distilled water from there, how long does that take?
-------------------- ProDOPEFiend Diary: (my public diary) PodCast
|
travelleler
a horse-fart in a hurricane



Registered: 08/30/08
Posts: 3,955
Loc: yonder mountains
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: 04281969]
#9545682 - 01/04/09 06:16 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
ok 04281969-- I started the process per the instructions but used the 1\2tsp. measure for the citric acid for lack of an accurate scale. So once I got through the salting of the 1st pull and separated the water into a collection flask I did not find any crystals precipitating in the solution. My guess is that I did not mix the solvent well enough so I'm not giving up and continuing on to the 2nd pull. Also, am having some difficulty where the xylol is not separating out into layers but remaining trapped in the basic/cacti mush. any suggestions???
Good thread keep it going!
--------------------

"Whales have deep thoughts"
Dreams are the fuel of the soul
|
UberDeepName
Zang!



Registered: 04/15/07
Posts: 748
Loc: do not write in this spac...
Last seen: 9 years, 3 months
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: travelleler]
#9547427 - 01/04/09 09:47 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Quote:
travelleler said: ok 04281969-- I started the process per the instructions but used the 1\2tsp. measure for the citric acid for lack of an accurate scale. So once I got through the salting of the 1st pull and separated the water into a collection flask I did not find any crystals precipitating in the solution. My guess is that I did not mix the solvent well enough so I'm not giving up and continuing on to the 2nd pull. Also, am having some difficulty where the xylol is not separating out into layers but remaining trapped in the basic/cacti mush. any suggestions???
Good thread keep it going!
Same thing happened with me man. Nothing happened the first pull. Don't worry. Your second pull will dump loads of crystals. I think you actually need to wait 48 hours before you do the first run. Good luck.
-------------------- "Call on God, but row away from the rocks"- Hunter S. Thompson
|
TreeMoss
I live in a Fox Hole


Registered: 12/05/08
Posts: 1,615
Last seen: 15 years, 5 days
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: UberDeepName]
#9547884 - 01/04/09 10:46 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
|
|
Well, chemical process can take some time......several hours is recommended for many things such as crystals forming......but for a base that is a bit odd.....maybe just so damn much cactus soup.
What does the xylene look like when it didn't mix....trying to visualize that.
-------------------- Drug chemicals are going to be more abundant and survive longer than any anti-drug agendas. Some of us are just ahead of the game, we already know what the future will understand. Drugs weren't bad but how some people used them were and some people just were bad because they had to be.
|
travelleler
a horse-fart in a hurricane



Registered: 08/30/08
Posts: 3,955
Loc: yonder mountains
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: UberDeepName]
#9549894 - 01/05/09 08:12 AM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
Thanks UDN,
I'm thawing the 2nd pull now to see what I get-- fingers crossed hoping for the best.
I threw the 1st pull into the evap dish just to see what was in there and it's leaving behind a clear sticky residue and that's it... no xtals. I think Uber is right, the plant material needs more time to give up it's goodies or maybe the recipe needs an extra 100g of NaOH--- either way... I followed the recipe to the letter.
one thing that was not in the OP that helped me out was adding gentle heat to aid in separation of the layers in the sludge bottle. My xylene wasn't separating out of the cactus mush so I placed the jug in a large bowl of HOT water and set that on top of an electric heating pad then an hour later I replaced the water in the bowl with more almost boiling water. 2 hours later I had a thick layer of xylene sitting ontop of the sludge which was easy to decant and siphon.
UberDeepName thanks for being in there, this thread is super long and dramatic but I'm glad there's still someone in there who had success with this method to observe the rest of us
--------------------

"Whales have deep thoughts"
Dreams are the fuel of the soul
|
SurReality
PsychAdemic


Registered: 12/21/06
Posts: 11,808
Loc: Colorado, USA
Last seen: 1 year, 6 months
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: travelleler]
#9549906 - 01/05/09 08:17 AM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
traveler, how do you intend on getting the crystals out of the cold water, just curious
-------------------- ProDOPEFiend Diary: (my public diary) PodCast
|
travelleler
a horse-fart in a hurricane



Registered: 08/30/08
Posts: 3,955
Loc: yonder mountains
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: SurReality]
#9549921 - 01/05/09 08:23 AM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
to retrieve crystal from cold water, I plan to decant as much of the water as possible off of the crystals into a separate collection vessel and then dissolve the remaining crystals in just a tiny bit of warm water and pour into a clean evap dish and then wait for it to evaporate.
that's the plan anyway...
--------------------

"Whales have deep thoughts"
Dreams are the fuel of the soul
|
TreeMoss
I live in a Fox Hole


Registered: 12/05/08
Posts: 1,615
Last seen: 15 years, 5 days
|
Re: Easy Three Step Mescaline Citrate [Re: travelleler]
#9551223 - 01/05/09 01:49 PM (15 years, 26 days ago) |
|
|
Was that mescaline base that you evaporated, if it was an oil probably so.......I wonder what it would be like smoking mescaline base, probably okay with some hash oil.....I hear it's not good for skin though.
-------------------- Drug chemicals are going to be more abundant and survive longer than any anti-drug agendas. Some of us are just ahead of the game, we already know what the future will understand. Drugs weren't bad but how some people used them were and some people just were bad because they had to be.
|
|