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Jar's Orange Liquid
    #7874903 - 01/13/08 06:56 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)


After returning home from vacation, I realized my incubator decided to break. Not only is it no longer heating, water is everywhere in the incubator. Using a heatbomb in a tote, until this time have had no problems with it.

The entire incubator was soaked in water, and the jars got water in them. Some of the jars turned out worse than others, I lost about 4 of them out of 16. The jars in question have all got this odd orange liquid in them. If I turn the jars, there is a stain where the water line is on the inside of the jars and the mycelium where the water rests on the bottom just healthy, albeit wet.

So my question is simply, is this some form of a contam attacking them? Or is this just the grain dying the water as it settled in? When I left, they were roughly 50-70%. I assume the heatbomb died after a few days, and I was gone for an entire month.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. This was my full stock of spores, and if these aren't salvageable I'm SOL on starting off another batch for quite some time. Thanks.


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: xile]
    #7874920 - 01/13/08 07:00 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Looks like Metabolites to me, they'll be fine.
But they look ready to spawn or do a G2G


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7875001 - 01/13/08 07:13 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

that actually looks kinda ronchy to me.


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: budmanman]
    #7875012 - 01/13/08 07:15 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

MOVE TO CONTAMINATION FORUM!!


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: budmanman]
    #7875030 - 01/13/08 07:19 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Looks kinda contaminated.... I wouldn't open it really. It wasnt your heatbomb that caused the contam. if anything it helped keep them at bay.... lower temps are better. Whatever that orange shit is it doesnt look good. Wait till someone more knowledgeable answers. This should prolly be in the contam forum as well?

you said in chat that you only had 2 micropore layers ontop of the jar. thats probably your downfall? How did you inoculate?

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MOVE TO CONTAMINATION FORUM!!




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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: donpatch]
    #7875038 - 01/13/08 07:20 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Post a close up of the bottom


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7875861 - 01/13/08 09:26 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

It's just metabolites from the high temperature. NEVER use a jar with a lot of metabolites for grain to grain transfers, but you can use it to spawn to bulk or lay in a tray and case.

It seems like two out of three 'incubator' posts are about how they screwed up another grow. You folks would be doing a great service to yourselves to use normal room temperature for colonization. Find a spot in your house where you're comfortable in a t-shirt, and your jars will colonize just fine.
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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7876256 - 01/13/08 10:35 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Okay, decided that I didn't want to risk dangers of growing it. I'm starting my program over from scratch, going to start with an LC and spend extra time being safe, tyvek, micropore tape.. everything I can possibly think of to be safe.

Room temps, thanks RR. I'll give that a shot.


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: xile]
    #7876321 - 01/13/08 10:59 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

RR said it was fine and you're ditching it? I don't see why you would do that?


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7876387 - 01/13/08 11:23 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Find a spot in your house where you're comfortable in a t-shirt, and your jars will colonize just fine.
RR



I tried this but i couldnt fit in the cupbaord above my fridge


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: HeadFood]
    #7883189 - 01/15/08 12:22 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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RR said it was fine and you're ditching it? I don't see why you would do that?



Thanks for posting, i misread RR's post originally. I re read it and decided to go ahead with the project. Whew, just in time that I checked back.

Thanks everyone, i'll at some point post updates and more than likely have other concerns.. For now, I'm starting to play in LC. I've got about 2 ccs of all my strains, so time to reproduce them!


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: xile]
    #7883566 - 01/15/08 01:58 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

close call. good luck with your grow:mushroom2:


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7883573 - 01/15/08 02:00 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

with grain i have seen a much faster rate of colonization with an incubator, than without. i also notice how i can keep colonized grain much longer in an inc. without having to worry about the myc fruiting in the jar. incubators are fine, why discourage people from having fun building one?


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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7883818 - 01/15/08 02:53 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Find a spot in your house where you're comfortable in a t-shirt, and your jars will colonize just fine.
RR




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Re: Jar's Orange Liquid [Re: poot]
    #7884401 - 01/15/08 04:36 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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poot said:
with grain i have seen a much faster rate of colonization with an incubator, than without. i also notice how i can keep colonized grain much longer in an inc. without having to worry about the myc fruiting in the jar. incubators are fine, why discourage people from having fun building one?




Because incubators also speed up contamination growth rate, and more so than the cube mycelium growth rate.

So if any single contaminant gets in or wasn't fully killed, it has higher chances of taking over the substrate while at a slightly lower temp the myc might have had time to grow enough and kill it.


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