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Offlinebongbongbong
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Steralisation question
    #7874745 - 01/13/08 06:27 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

hey guys, iv been browsing your site for ages getting help with 'projects'. I have recently moved out and i no longer have such easy access to the use of a stover and pressure cooker for steralisation. I am doing the pf tek and was wondering if i could substitute the foil for cling film and steralise in the microwave instead? it would just make my life a hell of a lot easier if this would work. Thanks for any advice
i plan on doing a grow diary as well if anyone is interested,
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Re: Steralisation question [Re: bongbongbong]
    #7874818 - 01/13/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

You mean Sterilization and no.But, give it a try it could work...


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Re: Steralisation question [Re: Brainiac]
    #7874929 - 01/13/08 07:01 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

i dont think that cling film will hold up in the microwave.

http://www.shroomery.org/8688/Microwave-Sterilization

try that tek.

at least get a big pot and steam them.. if you cant get a hold of a pressure cooker.


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Re: Steralisation question [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7875064 - 01/13/08 07:24 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

No, but I just saw a special microwaveable tupperware box, really small - about enough to hold one or two cakes, that had a special vacuum-locking lid. It could be worth a shot. Don't expect 100%, but I bet you could get 3 out of 5 if you kept things clean.


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Re: Steralisation question [Re: 04281969]
    #7875159 - 01/13/08 07:38 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Microwave sterilization is a figment of someones imagination.

Boiling the jars works better, microwaving pfcake's will just cause them to explode all over. I know this from experience.


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Re: Steralisation question [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7875198 - 01/13/08 07:44 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Idk I saw a guy around the Shroomery somewhere who does nothing but microwave sterilization and it can work. Not saying it can work for everyone that is important to remember. As long as your doing BRF cakes you can steam the jars in a pot with a lid. Do it for about 90 min at a steady boil, don't put more than an inch of water into the pot.


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Re: Sterilization question [Re: DontPlay]
    #7875290 - 01/13/08 07:56 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I seen lots of people claim to have had success in the microwave but in reality it is not sterilizing anything, it just renders spores/endospores dormant for a few days, if they got their sub colonized it was by luck not because what they were doing works, do not bother with that bit of mis-information.


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Re: Sterilization question [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7875308 - 01/13/08 07:58 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Well I only mentioned this because the guy showed pictures. I was also kinda noobish at the time still am but was convinced that it somehow did work.


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Re: Sterilization question [Re: DontPlay]
    #7876708 - 01/14/08 12:42 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Couldn't you steam sterilize in a microwave? You might have to constatly add water if you have a small microwave though.


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Re: Sterilization question [Re: MayorMcCheese]
    #7876809 - 01/14/08 01:00 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

What about a camping stove?


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Re: Sterilization question [Re: shaggydogman]
    #7876953 - 01/14/08 02:19 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

For making your caseing layer or substrate the microwave is fine.
But BRF inside a jar would not even be worth trying, honestly it would be luck.

Myself, I use the microwave for patching material and caseing layers.

You have a better chance boiling jars (buy a plug in burner for 15$) than the microwave.


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Re: Sterilization question [Re: Civ]
    #7877481 - 01/14/08 09:21 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Microwaves don't sterilize anything, neither does boiling. It only works because PF cakes have a very low level of contams and you can often get away with killing these by shitty methods. LC's that are full of preservatives are another example.

Casing is often not sterilized at all. Microwaving just wastes electricity. There will be cold and hot spots all through whatever you're trying to sterilize, if you've ever used a microwave to cook food you should know that.


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Re: Sterilization question [Re: fastfred]
    #7879150 - 01/14/08 04:44 PM (16 years, 18 days ago)

ok well iv decided i am going to do both lol. I am going to do some of the standard pf tek cakes as well as one tupperware container in the microwave from
http://www.shroomery.org/8688/Microwave-Sterilization


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Re: Sterilization question [Re: fastfred]
    #7904835 - 01/20/08 07:02 AM (16 years, 12 days ago)

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fastfred said: There will be cold and hot spots all through whatever you're trying to sterilize, if you've ever used a microwave to cook food you should know that.


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that is a problem, and so is moisture loss. those 2 problems can be overcome if you look at any of my old posts on microwaving. Many fail since they only microwave for very short times. I doubt the procedure in the link above works well.


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