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smily
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ID Book for SF Bay Area
#7874017 - 01/13/08 03:59 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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been looking up olde articles trying to find a nice guide to Bay Area mushroom Hunting.
anyone find a good guide at Boarders???? I want one now LOL i know i could order online and probably will but want to go buy one today.
any suggestions??? THANKS
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: smily]
#7874349 - 01/13/08 05:03 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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-------------------- Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.
My Legacy https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987 Teh=The I need to proofread
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: tahoe]
#7874659 - 01/13/08 06:10 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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David Arora's Mushrooms Demystified and All That the Rain Promises and More... are my two favorite. The latter being a much lighter weight, more portable companion to the former. They are great guides for all regions, but somewhat concentrated on ours. Lincoff's Audubon guide is my second favorite guide and I refer to it often also. I have seen them all sold at Borders.
Edited by BaldCuban (01/19/08 12:33 AM)
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: BaldCuban]
#7876418 - 01/13/08 11:41 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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thanks very much just got Simon & Schuster's Guide to Mushrooms nice start looked at the Audubon on also get later thanks Tahoe
BaldCuban will be look for those on line later thanks very much also!
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: smily]
#7880203 - 01/14/08 08:00 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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The Audubon guide is the best for the east coast but it doesn't do a very good job with west coast / bay area species. Gary Lincoff is really cool but he lives on the east coast doesn't spend much time in the bay area. And some of the names in that book are doubtful, Hypholoma fasciculare is nowhere in the index, they prefer to call it Naematoloma fasciculare, which is downright retarded. If a mushroom doesn't have a common name he just pulls one out of his ass, which is pretty cool.
Mushrooms Demystified is the one to get because the author lived in the bay area for a long time.
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I second Alan! David Aurora knows his stuff on the West Coast! i have both of his books! Immensely handy and valuable. i don't travel without them. I like Paul Stamets book Psilocybin of the world for Genera psilocybe.
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>Hypholoma fasciculare is nowhere in the index, they prefer to call it >Naematoloma fasciculare, which is downright retarded
Alan... I believe MD also lists Hypholoma as Naemataloma... I would check to make sure, but i'm not sure where the bible is right now.
To concur, Someone at a bookstore today asked me which books I would recommend for wild mushrooming so they could order copies to have on hand, and I wrote down Auroras "Mushrooms Demystified" and "All that the Rain Promises and more". Hands down, best US west coast guides. The latter being the sort of "pocket version", though not as thorough as the bible (MD).
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: CureCat]
#7881524 - 01/15/08 02:02 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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> Alan... I believe MD also lists Hypholoma as Naemataloma... I would check to make sure, but i'm not sure where the bible is right now.
It does, but the next edition better not.
Here is a list of the updated versions of the names used in MD:
http://collectivesource.com/taxonomy/arora-changes.html
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>It does, but the next edition better not.
No book will ever keep up with the internet. I write notes on taxon changes and synonyms in mine.
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: CureCat]
#7882693 - 01/15/08 10:53 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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smily, one of the many borders book in my town is going out of business. they useually have psilocybin mushrooms of the world in stock and it should be on sale. I will check it out today and let you know which guide books are marked down
-------------------- Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.
My Legacy https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987 Teh=The I need to proofread
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: tahoe]
#7886337 - 01/15/08 10:19 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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hey thanks should be fire selling things by the end of that!!
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: smily]
#7896527 - 01/18/08 08:46 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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I've used Mushrooms Demystified my entire mushroom hunting life, living in the Bay Area. It has listed pretty much every single mushroom species I've ever found there. If you're unimpressed with your book, get Mushrooms Demystified.
(this is not a paid advertisement)
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: angryshroom]
#7896583 - 01/18/08 09:04 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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yeah; i have to second that strongly. aside from being one of the better field guides, it was written for the western states with a specific focus on california, where much of his experience had been in the broader bay[s] area.
though a bit outdated, it's almost tailor made for the SF area.
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: canid]
#7898298 - 01/18/08 05:14 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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thanks very much will order that one today. sounds like just what i am looking for. unless they got it up there Tahoe and you could pick it up and bring it down:)
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: smily]
#7898527 - 01/18/08 06:07 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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I definitely concur with Mushrooms Demystified. Its hands down one of the best field guides anywhere, and what's particularly nice is that its regional "bias" is the SF Bay and Santa Cruz areas. It has some of the most useful macroscopically-based keys I've seen anywhere.
Its only shortcoming is that it only has a small set of color photos, with most of the photos being black and white. I recommend supplementing MD with a few books with lots of color pictures, such as Roger Philips' Mushrooms of North America and Gary Lincoff's Audubon guide. Websites like Mycoweb are also very helpful in this regard.
As for the names in MD, those were the names that were considered current at the time the book was written. Since its publication, all kinds of taxonomic events have taken place, such as many Western species being segregated from the eastern and European species they were originally called, or taxonomic/nomenclatural changes, like the older name Hypholoma being conserved against Naematoloma, Gymnopus being segregated out of Collybia, Lepista being sunk into Clitocybe, etc. Taxonomy marches on!
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Yes Mushrooms Demystified is one of the more helpful books about the subject. But I would recommend having as many different field guides as possible. The National Audubon is another good choice. David Aurora is only one mycologist who wrote books, referencing several books about a species in question gives a person extra viewpoints. A example: MD might say that a mushroom is a choice edible while The National Audubon will mention that some people have allergic reactions from consuming them. And vice versa. Plus there will never be a mushroom field guide that will ever be written without errors in it, so it helps to have more then just one or two resources to refer to.
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: smily]
#7898935 - 01/18/08 07:56 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
smily said: thanks very much just got Simon & Schuster's Guide to Mushrooms nice start looked at the Audubon on also get later thanks Tahoe
BaldCuban will be look for those on line later thanks very much also!
simon and schusters guide is more of a collectible guide than a practical guide. the audubon guide is great. cant forget the PMOTW and all of aroras books.
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Edited by sui (01/18/08 07:56 PM)
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smily
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Quote:
GGreatOne234 said: Yes Mushrooms Demystified is one of the more helpful books about the subject. But I would recommend having as many different field guides as possible. The National Audubon is another good choice. David Aurora is only one mycologist who wrote books, referencing several books about a species in question gives a person extra viewpoints. A example: MD might say that a mushroom is a choice edible while The National Audubon will mention that some people have allergic reactions from consuming them. And vice versa. Plus there will never be a mushroom field guide that will ever be written without errors in it, so it helps to have more then just one or two resources to refer to.
very good point, i plan on collecting a bunch just found that one first LOL and could not wait wanted somthing on this subject to read
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: sui]
#7898954 - 01/18/08 08:02 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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>simon and schusters guide is more of a collectible guide than a practical guide. the audubon guide is great. cant forget the PMOTW and all of aroras books.
Definitely, it's not too bad though. It seems to focus on a lot of European species, but can be helpful in narrowing finds down to genus.
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smily
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yeah seemed to notice that not local at all more an all over kinda guide.
it works for now more to come.
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: smily]
#7899290 - 01/18/08 09:22 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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"yeah seemed to notice that not local at all more an all over kinda guide."
Wow, that made no sense!
I think I get it now, after reading it 5 times, so no need for an explanation. But really, please use punctuation so the reader doesn't have to work so hard!
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: smily]
#7899672 - 01/18/08 11:00 PM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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i had to read it a few times too. 
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smily said: yeah seemed to notice that not local at all more an all over kinda guide.
it works for now more to come.
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smily said: yeah, seemed to notice that its not local at all and more of an all over kinda guide.
it works for now more to come.
he just left gaps where otherwise important words could go.
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: sui]
#7899901 - 01/19/08 12:01 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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he just left gaps where otherwise important words could go.
LOLOLOLOOL
how ya feelin any good???
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David Arora, not "Aurora".
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: smily]
#7899907 - 01/19/08 12:04 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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awesome actually. In the afterglow of a light trip.
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Re: ID Book for SF Bay Area [Re: sui]
#7899963 - 01/19/08 12:31 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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way cool glad your enjoyin the ride
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