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Luchicrino
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How much 21x Salvia to smoke
#7873415 - 01/13/08 01:43 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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I just got a gram of 21x apple flavored extract and Im not sure on how much to smoke. I have never done it before and am prepared for what is to come, I just dont want to get in over my head. Also I dont have a scale, does anyone know a good method for eyeing it out or comparing a certain weight to an object placed next to it
Edited by Luchicrino (01/13/08 03:50 PM)
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Luchicrino]
#7874016 - 01/13/08 03:58 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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anyone??
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Luchicrino]
#7874092 - 01/13/08 04:13 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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You have one gram?
Then it should be 21 times more powerful than one gram of salvia leaf.
Smoke a litte more than 1/10 of it, which should be about equal to 2 grams of salvia leaf.
Does this sound right, y'all?
I'd just smoke a big glob of it, it's not gonna hurt you.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: FarFromHere]
#7874111 - 01/13/08 04:16 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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half a bowl. fuck i don't know. just guess.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: bmiles]
#7874126 - 01/13/08 04:20 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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I understand the potency level, I guess I should try a pinch or so of it. i dont really want to dump it all out, divide it into what i think is 10 parts and the try to get the rest back int he small ass vial it came in. thanks
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Luchicrino]
#7874138 - 01/13/08 04:23 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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you could always count out how many grains you wanted in each pile.  dude, just back up a bowl, take a huge hit, hold it in as long as possible. thats all you gotta do. you don't divide it up, or make the 'perfect bowl' just smoke the shit.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: FarFromHere]
#7874146 - 01/13/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
FarFromHere said: You have one gram? I'd just smoke a big glob of it, it's not gonna hurt you.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: bmiles]
#7874149 - 01/13/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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agreed.
Just smoke it!
Post while your trippin'...
Or just after...
That's always fun.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: FarFromHere]
#7874160 - 01/13/08 04:26 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Just grab a pinch, enough for 1-2 big hits, and you'll be fine.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: LSDaytripper]
#7874194 - 01/13/08 04:34 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thanks, Ill try and post shortly after im done. Im doing it with my girl and she'll probably get annoyed if im typing away online as we go into another dimension
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Luchicrino]
#7874343 - 01/13/08 05:02 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
Luchicrino said: Thanks, Ill try and post shortly after im done. Im doing it with my girl and she'll probably get annoyed if im typing away online as we go into another dimension
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: g00ru]
#7874515 - 01/13/08 05:34 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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25mg
An 1/8 of a 1/4 of a teaspoon is roughly 50mg.
Apple flavored? What's the point? One whiff and you won't even know what an apple is anymore!
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Grylls]
#7874539 - 01/13/08 05:43 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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One hit
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: BUDDHA_702]
#7874813 - 01/13/08 06:40 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Well i tried it. I started with a nice bowl pack in my Bong. ripped the thing in one shot and sat back and relaxed. NOTHING. Packed a pipe with more started ripping that, started to feel tingly all over so I sat back and relaxed, again NOTHING after the pins and needles. Pack another pipe rip, take it all in one hit,lay down this time, NOTHING. Finally pack another bowl, crush the thing down, for about 30 seconds I felt as if I was doing nitrous, but without the laughing, then that was it. I smoked almost the whole gram of 21x to the face and was buzzed for all of 30 seconds. I was really into trying this and was ready both mentally and physically, and all that I got was let down. 60 bucks down the shitter, Could have gotten an 8th of fire weed and gotten high for days
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Luchicrino]
#7874847 - 01/13/08 06:47 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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did you hold the smoke in your lungs for 30-60 seconds? are you using a water bong? try using a regular pipe.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: bmiles]
#7874906 - 01/13/08 06:56 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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I started with a water bong but then thought maybe the water was filtering some of the potency out. So I switched to a pipe for the rest of the hits and held them as long as I physically could which was defniately around 45-60 seconds. I have some chopped leaves coming by mail so I guess Ill try again when I get that, but I think that since the almost gram of 21x extract didnt do much, then 2 grams of chopped leaves isnt going to be shit
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Luchicrino]
#7874933 - 01/13/08 07:01 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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yeah chopped leaves aren't going to do much, unless they have extract on them as well. make a quid out of the leaves and see if that does anything for you.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Luchicrino]
#7875938 - 01/13/08 09:39 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Yeah, I don't know why, I've been curious to try Salvia after reading all of this stuff on the forums. But I've done shrooms and I've done acid and all salvia has ever done was give me a really, really intense pens and needles sensation with uncontrollable laughter, even when I am freaking out.
I don't really like it because it's so expensive and has never really worked for me.
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wow that really sucks. i've only done 40x but every time is INTENSE! I freak out and have no idea what is going on
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: HeadFood]
#7876136 - 01/13/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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If it doesn't work, wait like 30 mins then go back to it. There's a reverse tolerance. You could have gotten shitty salvia from some bunk vendor though if you bought it on ebay.
It does work. Use your bong. And make sure you don't let your guard down...
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: g00ru]
#7876751 - 01/14/08 12:49 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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You paid 60$ for 1g 21x? I paid half that for 20x. Which I smoked last night with buddy's and we all 'saw'.
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Edited by papixx (01/14/08 12:49 AM)
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: papixx]
#7876828 - 01/14/08 01:10 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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yea smoke it and wait 20 minutes, then take a FAT rip and say hello to the salvia people for me I can breakthrough on 5x BTW..
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a gram of 20x from a reliable source would be 100 trips for me when I smoke out of a short dry pipe, I burn it and suck it in as fast as possible, no slow sensuous draws with this material fast deep and deliberate is the only way. then I hold it for 20 seconds. 30 seconds after exhallation things happen. 50 seconds after exhallation the universe is a different thing.
smoking this is different than other combustables. salvinorin is a crystalline waxy material which condenses and solidifies quickly. when you smoke the leaf, salvinorin liquid particles go into the airstream,. you have to suck that airstream with smoke and particles very quickly or else the stickly salvinorin wax will settle on anything in it's path. water bongs are wasteful.
some people think that torches which can vaporize salvinorin are good; unfortunately all they do is burn more more quickly, but the smoker has to draw it in quickly. torches are really too hot to smoke from this way and you can damage your lungs with them.
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Well I just tried again. and this time there were much different results. I smoked about 1/2 bowl pack in a dry pipe. Sucked it all in in 1 hit and by the time i was done blowing out smoke I was gone. Only for about 2-3 minutes, but it was intense. I was laying on my bed and had this voice going down a checklist of things I couldnt understand and then saying "Are you ready, are you ready?" then it seemed like my room was saying "you arent following the rules,those arent the rules" to which I spoke out loud "I dont have to follow the rules", but when I spoke it wasnt out of a wanting to speak, whatever was inside me made me say those words.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Luchicrino]
#7878203 - 01/14/08 12:49 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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It worked!
Good job!
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: Luchicrino]
#7878497 - 01/14/08 02:04 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Luchicrino said: Well I just tried again. and this time there were much different results. I smoked about 1/2 bowl pack in a dry pipe. Sucked it all in in 1 hit and by the time i was done blowing out smoke I was gone. Only for about 2-3 minutes, but it was intense. I was laying on my bed and had this voice going down a checklist of things I couldnt understand and then saying "Are you ready, are you ready?" then it seemed like my room was saying "you arent following the rules,those arent the rules" to which I spoke out loud "I dont have to follow the rules", but when I spoke it wasnt out of a wanting to speak, whatever was inside me made me say those words.
I'm glad it worked for you.
I've never herd voices but I think that's pretty common.
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Re: How much 21x Salvia to smoke [Re: g00ru]
#7880290 - 01/14/08 08:18 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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You can't just pick up any kind of salvia at your local convenient store. Try Purple Sticky Sylvia or go online at purplestickysylvia.com. I find it at my local head shop for $20 a gram but never buy it. A friend came over and packed up my bong. I ripped it and held it in as long as possible. I passed the bong my girl and things started looking like I was shaking "no" as fast as possible. I layed back in the bed and went into a full on visual trip. The scariest thing about salvia is the dramatic change from being perfectly normal to a full blown trip. I thought I only tripped for what seemed 5-10 seconds but my girlfriend told me I was spaced for about 45 seconds.
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