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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Konyap]
    #7875878 - 01/13/08 09:29 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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aiyobro said:
water boarding?




No but this would work
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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Brainiac]
    #7875906 - 01/13/08 09:34 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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What I'm saying is if you manly to rape a kid.Then you shouldn't cry about how cruel and unusual you punishment is.

Like say I killed a whole family with a hammer.But,please don't let me feel pain when I'm put to death.. :shake:





You misunderstand.  The courts cannot exercise the same malice on criminals that they exercised on their victims, or else we are back in the middle ages.  I have no sympathy for child rapists; I wouldn't feel a speck of sadness if the perpetrator were sodomized or whatever you are suggesting. But it cannot be the justice system (to which we are ALL subject) doling out this manner of punishment, because we are not the kinds of monsters we are punishing.

If you don't understand why, then there's nothing more I can say to you.


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7875917 - 01/13/08 09:35 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

:evil:In this drama everybody loses. :hulk:

There may be some hope though? if the lil' girl gets the appropriate,effective help she needs?

As a Sirvivor I can't help but wonder what the rest of the story would tell if more was known about this family?


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Brainiac]
    #7875973 - 01/13/08 09:43 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

whats the point in killin the dude if they dont think bout what theyve done?


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Konyap]
    #7875996 - 01/13/08 09:46 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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aiyobro said:
whats the point in killin the dude if they dont think bout what theyve done?




One less person to care for the next ten+ years..


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Brainiac]
    #7876119 - 01/13/08 10:10 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

its not about feeling sorry for the guy who SUPPOSEDLY raped the girl...its wondering wtf is going through this sick son of bitches head to carry out this act(the father I mean)

I dunno maybe this just boils down to my non violent demeanor...one things for sure...the father will have to live with the guilt of what he did same as the boy(and unfortunately the girl will have to come to grips with what happened to her) and regardless of what tough guy/I don't give a shit/he deserved it mask he wears...he will feel the pain of guilt if he is infact a decent person who got caught up in an act of rage

and if he dosen't...he'll probably be arrested again down the line for doing the same to someone else...he'll either love what he did or hate it...he'll either be haunted by it all or fantasize about doing it again

EDIT: chew on this: what if the boy was a copycat...what if he saw the father doing the same to the girl and in an attempt to earn his fathers respect or vent sexual frustration or whatever did the same...but then the father catches him doing the same and shows him whos boss???

curious how your opinions would alter if that be the case

of course its just theory but based on the info we have its as good as any


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #7876401 - 01/13/08 11:31 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

The ends do not necessarily justify the means.


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7876403 - 01/13/08 11:32 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

OH this happened in Texas. I understand now.


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7876586 - 01/14/08 12:15 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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The punishment should fit the crime. Sodomize a kid and you shoul
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The punishment should fit the crime. Sodomize a kid and you should he sodomized. Get caught smoking weed and you should have to smoke weed for the rest of your life.




this idea i like:borat::jointsmile:


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Redstorm]
    #7876959 - 01/14/08 02:21 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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Exactly. Vigilante justice has no place in the United States.




When it comes to sex crimes, vigilante justice is really all we've got. Going into a police station and claiming you were raped or molested is about as effective as trying to hammer in a nail with silly puddy.


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7877050 - 01/14/08 03:49 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

it's situations like this that lead me to believe that there isn't a god..or at least one that gives a fuck..


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7877059 - 01/14/08 03:56 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

The extreme responses in this thread bother me as well as the crimes.

I thought we outgrew the era of "Eye for an eye".


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester *DELETED* [Re: Asante]
    #7877071 - 01/14/08 04:16 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Chubba]
    #7877074 - 01/14/08 04:24 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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The extreme responses in this thread bother me as well as the crimes.

I thought we outgrew the era of "Eye for an eye".



I wish we had "eye for an eye", quite literally.

My best friend got stabbed in the eye with a stanley knife at a service station when he refused to give a kid (15yo) a ciggerate.

This kid isn't in jail, my friend now has a glass eye after going through that whole massive trauma.




holy shit dude...that fucking sucks. Now go sodomize that mutha fuka!!


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Chemy]
    #7877190 - 01/14/08 06:48 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

fuck the kid that raped the 8 year old. what a sick fuck!


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Asante]
    #7877241 - 01/14/08 07:19 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
I thought we outgrew the era of "Eye for an eye".




we're all animals, the kind with higher cognitive functions, we have the
capacity to determine right and wrong, we can decide our actions, I see people
defending this boy an 18year old. one that shouldnt have been released from
jail, a young adult that surely had to have known what he was doing was wrong.

This kid made a choice and we'll take into consideration that it's very likely
that his step father abused and molested him. in all probability the kid is if
full of hate and rage, was the decision to molest this young girl made as a
means to take revenge against his step father? do you think for a moment that he
considered the impact of his actions and what it would have on his mother, or
his sister, whom he had molested... think it crossed his mind that it was wrong?

Now lets look at other arguments, like 'the courts should take care of it',
where were the courts when this boy was suffering at the hand of his stepfather,
where were the police that are sworn to uphold the law and to protect and
serve while this young man was being raped and beaten by someone that probably
should still have been in prison for the violent offenses of his past. but it
was the courts decision to let him out... maybe they thought he'd be rehabilitated

Looks like even the courts can make bad choices sometimes, the ones they made in
this case ultimately led to the rape of an eight year old girl. if you want your
utopian society, it'll have to come through blood. the prisons dont punish or
rehabilitate, they teach offenders to become more violent, to explore new feilds
of crime and to avoid detection. you'll have to weed out the violent because it
cant be bred out of mankind.


let the slaughter commence.


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: relativexistance]
    #7877244 - 01/14/08 07:22 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

Had I known the kid, I would have put him in quite a bit of pain. There isn't enough sadism in me to sodomize him with a screwdriver, however. That kind of extreme infliction of pain implies that the father was a sick fuck too.


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Asante]
    #7877280 - 01/14/08 07:47 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
I wouldn't be surprised if the stepson came to his act because of the violent nature of the father.

That doesn't get the stepson off the hook in any way but I suspect that a guy who does this:

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the father took the call and drove to the jail to pick him up.

Instead of taking the teenager home, the Arlington man drove to an abandoned house in Fort Worth.

Police say that inside the house, the man beat his stepson with a baseball bat and sodomized him with a metal tool.




is violent by nature.

Fucking the stepson up was definitely premeditated and not a "heat of the moment" act.

What the stepson did is excusable in no way, but I have the suspicion the father is a complete bastard and that all this is the culmination of years of absolutely rotten family life.

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The 32-year-old man has previously pleaded guilty to burglary of a habitation and served at least two jail sentences for assault with bodily injury




A bastard. I suspect constant previous abuse, without which the stepson perhaps never even would've touched the girl.




"my dad was an asshole so im gonna rape little girls"?!?!?! i say he got what he deserved. i also say that the father is going to be treated like a king in jail.


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: mycopsycho]
    #7877370 - 01/14/08 08:34 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

I ain't defending what the kid did just to make things clear...I just think what the father did is even more fucked up

you think the abuse the kid endured is going to rehabilitate him? fat chance...if anything its just going to ensure he does it again and hes now learned "Eye for an eye" himself and is more likely to be vengeful in his life

even if this was the first act of violence from the father its still going to lead to further violence in one way or another(and it might even come from the daughter whos now learned that vengeance is ok)

we live in a domino effect world...every action has a consequence

and I'm NOT defending the court system either...its faaaar from perfect and full of corruption itself but that don't make sodomy ok in ANY situation and for someone to carry out such an act regardless of the reasons

I'm sure this isn't the first time hes indulged in the demon within

I feel bad for the wife/mother who now has 2 children who have been sodomized..she must feel like a really accomplished person at this point in her life


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Re: Texas man sodomizes child molester [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #7877393 - 01/14/08 08:41 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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I ain't defending what the kid did just to make things clear...I just think what the father did is even more fucked up

you think the abuse the kid endured is going to rehabilitate him? fat chance...if anything its just going to ensure he does it again and hes now learned "Eye for an eye" himself and is more likely to be vengeful in his life

even if this was the first act of violence from the father its still going to lead to further violence in one way or another(and it might even come from the daughter whos now learned that vengeance is ok)

we live in a domino effect world...every action has a consequence

and I'm NOT defending the court system either...its faaaar from perfect and full of corruption itself but that don't make sodomy ok in ANY situation and for someone to carry out such an act regardless of the reasons

I'm sure this isn't the first time hes indulged in the demon within

I feel bad for the wife/mother who now has 2 children who have been sodomized..she must feel like a really accomplished person at this point in her life




only one of the kids was actually hers, and it was the son. if i were her, i wouldn't give a shit about the son though. hell, i might even try to push him in front of a moving vehicle.


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