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The Canadian Inquisition
#7872677 - 01/13/08 09:08 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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from http://ace.mu.nu/archives/251827.php --
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There are a lot of Canadians who like to talk about how superior their values are compared to their thuggish neighbors to the south (members of their last few Liberal governments spring to mind). Well, watch the clip below to see what apparently passes for official Canadian values these days.
Fortunately Ezra Levant, Publisher of The Western Standard, tells this petty apparatchik what she can do with her question about why he and his magazine published the so-called “Mohamed Cartoons”.
Go to the link for the video. It's great. There's also a link to another site which has two more videos of the same session, which are -- if anything -- even better. Hugely entertaining! This guy is my hero of the week. Don't miss these clips. (Yes, zap... I know you don't do videos. Normally I don't either. But there are as yet no transcripts of this session of which I am aware, and this is just too good to miss).
As an aside, Americans complaining of "loss of personal liberties" in the USA should watch these for an example of actual loss of personal liberty.
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: Phred]
#7872712 - 01/13/08 09:32 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Aha. I found a transcript of his opening remarks, so that saves you having to watch one of the three clips if you prefer to read rather than watch. The other two vids haven't been transcribed yet as far as I know.
http://ezralevant.com/2008/01/kangaroo-court.html
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Alberta Human Rights Commission Interrogation Opening remarks by Ezra Levant, January 11, 2008 – Calgary
My name is Ezra Levant. Before this government interrogation begins, I will make a statement.
When the Western Standard magazine printed the Danish cartoons of Mohammed two years ago, I was the publisher. It was the proudest moment of my public life. I would do it again today. In fact, I did do it again today. Though the Western Standard, sadly, no longer publishes a print edition, I posted the cartoons this morning on my website, ezralevant.com.
I am here at this government interrogation under protest. It is my position that the government has no legal or moral authority to interrogate me or anyone else for publishing these words and pictures. That is a violation of my ancient and inalienable freedoms: freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and in this case, religious freedom and the separation of mosque and state. It is especially perverted that a bureaucracy calling itself the Alberta human rights commission would be the government agency violating my human rights. So I will now call those bureaucrats “the commission” or “the hrc”, since to call the commission a “human rights commission” is to destroy the meaning of those words.
I believe that this commission has no proper authority over me. The commission was meant as a low-level, quasi-judicial body to arbitrate squabbles about housing, employment and other matters, where a complainant felt that their race or sex was the reason they were discriminated against. The commission was meant to deal with deeds, not words or ideas. Now the commission, which is funded by a secular government, from the pockets of taxpayers of all backgrounds, is taking it upon itself to be an enforcer of the views of radical Islam. So much for the separation of mosque and state.
I have read the past few years’ worth of decisions from this commission, and it is clear that it has become a dump for the junk that gets rejected from the real legal system. I read one case where a male hair salon student complained that he was called a “loser” by the girls in the class. The commission actually had a hearing about this. Another case was a kitchen manager with Hepatitis-C, who complained that it was against her rights to be fired. The commission actually agreed with her, and forced the restaurant to pay her $4,900. In other words, the commission is a joke – it’s the Alberta equivalent of a U.S. television pseudo-court like Judge Judy – except that Judge Judy actually was a judge, whereas none of the commission’s panellists are judges, and some aren’t even lawyers. And, unlike the commission, Judge Judy believes in freedom of speech.
It’s bad enough that this sick joke is being wreaked on hair salons and restaurants. But it’s even worse now that the commissions are attacking free speech. That’s my first point: the commissions have leapt out of the small cage they were confined to, and are now attacking our fundamental freedoms. As Alan Borovoy, Canada’s leading civil libertarian, a man who helped form these commissions in the 60’s and 70’s, wrote, in specific reference to our magazine, being a censor is, quote, “hardly the role we had envisioned for human rights commissions. There should be no question of the right to publish the impugned cartoons.” Unquote. Since the commission is so obviously out of control, he said quote “It would be best, therefore, to change the provisions of the Human Rights Act to remove any such ambiguities of interpretation.” Unquote. The commission has no legal authority to act as censor. It is not in their statutory authority. They’re just making it up – even Alan Borovoy says so. But even if the commissions had some statutory fig leaf for their attempts at political and religious censorship, it would still be unlawful and unconstitutional. We have a heritage of free speech that we inherited from Great Britain that goes back to the year 1215 and the Magna Carta. We have a heritage of eight hundred years of British common law protection for speech, augmented by 250 years of common law in Canada. That common law has been restated in various fundamental documents, especially since the Second World War.
In 1948, the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to which Canada is a party, declared that, quote:
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” The 1960 Canadian Bill of Rights guaranteed, quote 1. “ human rights and fundamental freedoms, namely, (c) freedom of religion; (d) freedom of speech; (e) freedom of assembly and association; and (f) freedom of the press.
In 1982, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guaranteed, quote: 2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: a) freedom of conscience and religion; b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; Those were even called “fundamental freedoms” – to give them extra importance.
For a government bureaucrat to call any publisher or anyone else to an interrogation to be quizzed about his political or religious expression is a violation of 800 years of common law, a Universal Declaration of Rights, a Bill of Rights and a Charter of Rights. This commission is applying Saudi values, not Canadian values.
It is also deeply procedurally one-sided and unjust. The complainant – in this case, a radical Muslim imam, who was trained at an officially anti-Semitic university in Saudi Arabia, and who has called for sharia law to govern Canada – doesn’t have to pay a penny; Alberta taxpayers pay for the prosecution of the complaint against me. The victims of the complaints, like the Western Standard, have to pay for their own lawyers from their own pockets. Even if we win, we lose – the process has become the punishment. (At this point, I’d like to thank the magazine’s many donors who have given their own money to help us fight against the Saudi imam and his enablers in the Alberta government.)
It is procedurally unfair. Unlike real courts, there is no way to apply for a dismissal of nuisance lawsuits. Common law rules of evidence don’t apply. Rules of court don’t apply. It is a system that is part Kafka, and part Stalin. Even this interrogation today – at which I appear under duress – saw the commission tell me who I could or could not bring with me as my counsel and advisors.
I have no faith in this farcical commission. But I do have faith in the justice and good sense of my fellow Albertans and Canadians. I believe that the better they understand this case, the more shocked they will be. I am here under your compulsion to answer the commission’s questions. But it is not I who am on trial: it is the freedom of all Canadians.
You may start your interrogation.
Phred
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: Phred]
#7872765 - 01/13/08 09:49 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks Phred. I don't do videos because they slow to a crawl after about 30-40 seconds. Probably too much crap on the machine. One of these days I'm just going to wipe it and reinstall fresh. Maybe.
I too had heard of this. Makes me want to puke. Liberal political correctness is truly fascism.
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: zappaisgod]
#7872815 - 01/13/08 10:16 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn. You'll miss his answer to her when she asks what his "intention" was in publishing the cartoons. He rips that question into little tiny pieces. You could watch the first 30 seconds or so, though.
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: Phred]
#7872858 - 01/13/08 10:36 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: Phred]
#7872900 - 01/13/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, Phred. Its encouraging to see at least one Canadian is standing up to the evil Islamic mental illness.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/index.php?sid=a035d36426f7fa940c3b376baf23b2db
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: Luddite]
#7872917 - 01/13/08 10:58 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Another guy getting cornholed by the liberal tolerance police in Canuckistan:
http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/861/
One particular beauty:
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If you examine Dr. Mohamed Elmasry's formal complaint to the Canadian Human Rights Commission about my article, Grievance #16 objects to the following assertion:
"The number of Muslims in Europe is expanding like 'mosquitoes.' "
That claim certainly appears in my piece. But they're the words not of a notorious right-wing Islamophobic columnist but of a bigshot Scandinavian Muslim:
" 'We're the ones who will change you,' the Norwegian imam Mullah Krekar told the Oslo newspaper Dagbladet in 2006. 'Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children.' "
Given that the "mosquitoes" line is part of the basis on which the HRC accepted Dr. Elmasry's complaint of "Islamophobia," I'm interested to know what precisely is the offence? Are Mullah Krekar's words themselves Islamophobic? Or do they only become so when I quote them? The complainants want a world in which a Norwegian imam can make statements in a Norwegian newspaper but if a Canadian columnist reprints them in a Canadian publication it's a "hate crime." It's striking to examine the Canadian Islamic Congress's complaints and see how many of their objections are to facts, statistics, quotations - not to their accuracy but merely to the quoting thereof. But, of course, they've picked the correct forum: before the human rights commissions, truth is no defence.
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: zappaisgod]
#7872928 - 01/13/08 11:03 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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And oh yeah, I'm thinking about rubbing bacon fat on my dick and making muhammed suck it as punishment for his pedophilia. Thoughtcrime? I don't think so but I'm sure there's a Human Rights Group somewhere that does.
I do not like them Sam I Am. I want to watch them eat some ham.
That little ditty goes out to all my muslim friends who want to kill me because I won't bow down to their moongod. Those millions know who they are.
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: Phred]
#7872978 - 01/13/08 11:21 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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As an aside, Americans complaining of "loss of personal liberties" in the USA should watch these for an example of actual loss of personal liberty.

That's what you're complaining about now? A bunch of Muslims complain about something? 
Where is the loss of liberty?
As far as I can tell, nothing has been restricted. That would go against Section 2.b of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms...
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: trendal]
#7872992 - 01/13/08 11:24 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's not just a bunch of Muslims complaining about something, it's the Canadian government entertaining their complaints and fining people they find "guilty".
Did you know that to date no one ever brought before any of the many "Human Rights" Commissions in Canada has ever been found not guilty?
The government has no authority to compel this guy to even appear before the commission in the first place -- that's the point.
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: trendal]
#7872994 - 01/13/08 11:25 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is also deeply procedurally one-sided and unjust. The complainant – in this case, a radical Muslim imam, who was trained at an officially anti-Semitic university in Saudi Arabia, and who has called for sharia law to govern Canada – doesn’t have to pay a penny; Alberta taxpayers pay for the prosecution of the complaint against me. The victims of the complaints, like the Western Standard, have to pay for their own lawyers from their own pockets. Even if we win, we lose – the process has become the punishment. (At this point, I’d like to thank the magazine’s many donors who have given their own money to help us fight against the Saudi imam and his enablers in the Alberta government.)
Yes Trendal, this is a perfect example of loss of personal liberty. Now, anent the other thread, what is your story of a loss of personal liberty? Redstorm aint doing too well.
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: zappaisgod]
#7872996 - 01/13/08 11:26 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hah. Anent - I like that. You learn something new every day.
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I'm a teacher. What can I say?
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: zappaisgod]
#7873067 - 01/13/08 11:47 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Americans help the Arabs a great deal by destabilizing the Mid-east, giving them a reason to seek asylum in Europe to harvest its benefits
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: Arp]
#7873069 - 01/13/08 11:48 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Call me crazy but I don't think the Middle East necessarily needs the United States' help in becoming unstable.
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7695224
"In 2006, almost 9,000 Iraqis applied for asylum in Sweden — triple what the country was expecting, and more than 40 percent of all Iraqi refugee claims in Europe."
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: Arp]
#7873090 - 01/13/08 11:55 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Arp said: Americans help the Arabs a great deal by destabilizing the Mid-east, giving them a reason to seek asylum in Europe to harvest its benefits
Does this have anything at all to do with this thread? No it does not.
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: Phred]
#7873095 - 01/13/08 11:57 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Another thing...this is the Alberta Government, not the Government of Canada.
That's like saying that because California has legalized medical marijuana, The United States is for medical marijuana
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: zappaisgod]
#7873104 - 01/13/08 11:59 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah it does. all this anti-muslim shit going on benefit shitholes that wants to attack the mid-east.
public opinion is of utmost importance.
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Re: The Canadian Inquisition [Re: trendal]
#7873159 - 01/13/08 12:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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trendal said: Another thing...this is the Alberta Government, not the Government of Canada.
That's like saying that because California has legalized medical marijuana, The United States is for medical marijuana
That's ridiculous. Also Steyn is being screwed by British Columbia. If every province and the federal government of Canada each has it's own HRC, then it is CANADA that is fucked, not just Alberta. Canada as a whole is fucked just for allowing Alberta to do this even if Alberta was the ONLY province this assholic.
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