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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Angered Roach]
    #7874224 - 01/13/08 04:39 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Angered Roach said:

Rosetta Stoned is definitely the best song ever written about DMT.




rosetta stoned is about LSD, hence: blame hoffman.


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: bmiles]
    #7874244 - 01/13/08 04:41 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes,
in my "need to know" pose, just outside of Area 51




First line of the song.

There is this little bit later in the song, though...

Quote:

"F**k me
It's gotta be
the Deadhead Chemistry
The blotter got [right] on top of me
Got me seein' E-motherf**kin'-T!"




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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Tangerines]
    #7874266 - 01/13/08 04:45 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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I understand artists evolve. But I do not need to like the evolution. I am not going to say I like something when in fact I do not. Even if I love the artist.




:thumbup:

i really dug 10,000 days, but what you stated here is great advice for people are total fanbois (this goes for any artist).


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Angered Roach]
    #7874270 - 01/13/08 04:46 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

hmmm.. i always assumed it was about acid,
because the track before it that leads into rosetta stoned is called lost keys (blame hoffman). and albert hoffman of course synthesized LSD.


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7874284 - 01/13/08 04:48 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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At the risk of incurring wrath, Tool is pretty pretentious. Can be decent but still pretentious.




Definitions of pretentious on the Web:

* making claim to or creating an appearance of (often undeserved) importance or distinction; "a pretentious country house"; "a pretentious fraud ...
* ostentatious: intended to attract notice and impress others; "an ostentatious sable coat"
* ostentatious: of a display that is tawdry or vulgar



In what ways exactly are they pretentious?


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Syle]
    #7874287 - 01/13/08 04:49 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Syle said:
Quote:

Tangerines said:
I understand artists evolve. But I do not need to like the evolution. I am not going to say I like something when in fact I do not. Even if I love the artist.




:thumbup:

i really dug 10,000 days, but what you stated here is great advice for people are total fanbois (this goes for any artist).




TOO true. I mean there are sonogs that I like off of 10000 days, but the entire album as a whole does/did not impact me like Lateralus. Aenima, or Undertow have.

But yea I hate people who could tell you they like a new album before they even hear it lol.


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Syle]
    #7874288 - 01/13/08 04:49 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

The first line of Rosetta Stoned goes:

"Alrighty, then ... picture this if you will.

10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes,"


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Tangerines]
    #7874300 - 01/13/08 04:51 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Tangerines said:
Quote:

Syle said:
Quote:

Tangerines said:
I understand artists evolve. But I do not need to like the evolution. I am not going to say I like something when in fact I do not. Even if I love the artist.




:thumbup:

i really dug 10,000 days, but what you stated here is great advice for people are total fanbois (this goes for any artist).




TOO true. I mean there are sonogs that I like off of 10000 days, but the entire album as a whole does/did not impact me like Lateralus. Aenima, or Undertow have.

But yea I hate people who could tell you they like a new album before they even hear it lol.




yep. i feel the same way about 10k days. some are hit and miss, others are great, but as an experience, it isn't the same as Aenima or Lateralus.

Undertow as well is a better "experience" album for me, though i prefer single song is sittings from 10k days more (Rosetta Stoned, Jambi, Right in Two...)


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Syle]
    #7874401 - 01/13/08 05:11 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Syle said:
Definitions of pretentious on the Web:

In what ways exactly are they pretentious?




* making claim to or creating an appearance of (often undeserved) importance or distinction; "a pretentious country house"; "a pretentious fraud":

"Although "lachrymology" was also explained to be an inspiration for the band's name, Keenan later explained their intentions differently: "Tool is exactly what it sounds like: It's a big dick. It's a wrench.... we are... your tool; use us as a catalyst in your process of finding out whatever it is you need to find out, or whatever it is you're trying to achieve."


* ostentatious: intended to attract notice and impress others; "an ostentatious sable coat":

"Due to Tool's incorporation of visual arts and relatively long and complex releases..."


* ostentatious: of a display that is tawdry or vulgar:

See Wrenchdick


...Since you asked.

That being said, I don't mind listening to them on occasion, especially while influenced by substances. I would not ever buy an album though.


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7874457 - 01/13/08 05:23 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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* making claim to or creating an appearance of (often undeserved) importance or distinction; "a pretentious country house"; "a pretentious fraud":

"Although "lachrymology" was also explained to be an inspiration for the band's name, Keenan later explained their intentions differently: "Tool is exactly what it sounds like: It's a big dick. It's a wrench.... we are... your tool; use us as a catalyst in your process of finding out whatever it is you need to find out, or whatever it is you're trying to achieve."




That's not pretentious. They were just explaining their intentions/desired purpose.

Quote:

* ostentatious: intended to attract notice and impress others; "an ostentatious sable coat":

"Due to Tool's incorporation of visual arts and relatively long and complex releases..."




again, how is that pretentious? they have lots of visual arts and their releases are generally long AND complex. i am confused...

"* ostentatious: of a display that is tawdry or vulgar:

See Wrenchdick"

Okay, got me there. Maybe it can also just be viewed as non-conforming, or maybe they just like to have fun and push buttons on people.


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Syle]
    #7874517 - 01/13/08 05:36 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

ostentatious: intended to attract notice and impress others.

You mean their visual arts and relatively long and complex releases aren't intended to impress others? They're just doin' it for the lulz?

By your definition there, that would be pretentious. It could be argued that they're doing it for the art, but then again, I do art without plastering my logo all over shirts and merchandise.

"Tool is exactly what it sounds like: It's a big dick. It's a wrench.... we are... your tool; use us as a catalyst in your process of finding out whatever it is you need to find out, or whatever it is you're trying to achieve."

Essentially saying that they are what you need to become enlightened. Sounds fairly pretentious to me... or using your definition, like they are "making claim to or creating an appearance of (often undeserved) importance or distinction..."

Dude, I'm not saying that they suck or anything, I just think that the band members and a good deal of their fans really are snobby about Tool.


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7874552 - 01/13/08 05:45 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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ostentatious: intended to attract notice and impress others.

You mean their visual arts and relatively long and complex releases aren't intended to impress others? They're just doin' it for the lulz?

By your definition there, that would be pretentious. It could be argued that they're doing it for the art, but then again, I do art without plastering my logo all over shirts and merchandise.

"Tool is exactly what it sounds like: It's a big dick. It's a wrench.... we are... your tool; use us as a catalyst in your process of finding out whatever it is you need to find out, or whatever it is you're trying to achieve."

Essentially saying that they are what you need to become enlightened. Sounds fairly pretentious to me... or using your definition, like they are "making claim to or creating an appearance of (often undeserved) importance or distinction..."

Dude, I'm not saying that they suck or anything, I just think that the band members and a good deal of their fans really are snobby about Tool.




i know you're not saying they suck, i would never argue with someone on musical subjectivity like that. i think you are just getting that image of pretentiousness from their fanbois, because the band itself doesn't put itself out there in this way.


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Syle]
    #7874554 - 01/13/08 05:46 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

&feature=related

another one!


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: Syle]
    #7874648 - 01/13/08 06:07 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

^I watch that video probably once a month. THen i get filled with feelings of jealousy and envy. Who the fuck are those dudes and did those guys know they were being filmed? lol. I wonder if they would have cared. I would absolutely love more of that video and also the video of them recording undertow - that was a good one too. anything behind the scenes id be into. Anyone got some of that?


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7874953 - 01/13/08 07:05 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

could you post the video of them recording undertow?


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: bmiles]
    #7875163 - 01/13/08 07:39 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Sure can...







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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7875194 - 01/13/08 07:43 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

thank you sir.


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: bmiles]
    #7875203 - 01/13/08 07:45 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

all of those videos are no longer available :frown:


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: bmiles]
    #7875207 - 01/13/08 07:45 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

i just watched them! lmao. lemme check.

Edit:
Weird. If you go to youtube and type "tool sylvia" it will be the first three that pop up. they work there. i wonder why they don't work here.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tool+sylvia&search=Search


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Re: TOOL Treasure Chest [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #7875236 - 01/13/08 07:49 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

i'll try that in a little while.


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