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OfflineIllicitAlchemist
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Becoming Self-Sufficient
    #7871573 - 01/13/08 01:39 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My main goal in life at this point is to make enough money myself to live on my own(with roomates most likely) and away from my parents. I just got a job at trader joe's paying 10$ an hour, but thats only part time. I plan on getting my bachelors degree in psychology and eventually my MD. I'm kind of discouraged at this point because there are so many expenses living on your own and I'm already 20 and just want to get out of my parents house already. Does anyone have any advice for me to speed this process up or even some encouraging words from people who have gone through this same thing would help. Thanks everyone and I hope to hear what some of you have to say...


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Re: Becoming Self-Sufficient [Re: IllicitAlchemist]
    #7871780 - 01/13/08 02:21 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If you really want to move out of your parents house there is nothing that can stop you except laziness. Ask for more hours at your current job, continue to look for a second job, sell everything you don't need and move some herb. Oh wow, I just realized you live in humbolt county. One road trip to Colorado and you'll be self sufficient for a couple of years. But illegal stuff aside. Start cutting your base living costs. A large part of your monthly costs are for having a car (i assume) insurance, gas and possibly even a car payment. That right there takes out 300-400 dollars a month. Get a bike, use public transportation... you'll be in much better shape after a month of that. Second biggest chunk of spending is going out to eat, and I don't mean like a fancy restaurant, I mean fast food or whatever. That adds up like crazy.

Now you cut those expenses, even a part time job is enough to pay for basic rent, utilities and food. It's not hard to get out w/o luxuries unless your credits out of control or you got and dirty ass criminal record.


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Re: Becoming Self-Sufficient [Re: IllicitAlchemist]
    #7872138 - 01/13/08 03:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm curious about your schooling. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big believer in education. I also noticed that certain successful peoples, whether they really needed the college education or not, met and did business with people whom they met in school. But that could be a very expensive social club and those people could afford it.

I'm not a believer in debt. If getting a job that your passionate about requires a particular degree, you might consider making an investment in yourself by getting into debt. But if the degree is just because, you supposedly would have the potential to earn a higher lifetime of earnings, than you need to weight it out. Most sales or entrepreneurial jobs don't require a college degree. All that matters is if you can sell or make the bottom line.

How much could one educate themselves by going to the library and read books of various subjects and then try to create their own hands on projects to learn? Are the college professors the true authority of the subject matter you wish to learn or just someone who excelled in the institution.

Start talking to people who are currently in the work force. You'll find a lot that are in fields that are totally unrelated to their degree. If you are going into debt for school, make sure you're getting exactly what you need. If money is the only benchmark, I think a lot would have done better by skipping school and investing the difference. But, you'd have to be motivated to educate yourself to invest. Which by the way, if you ask most investors got a better education reading and doing on their own, than what was taught in school.


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Re: Becoming Self-Sufficient [Re: GnosticWarrior]
    #7872544 - 01/13/08 09:56 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If you know your serious about becoming an MD, I would suggest you get to work on it. Either way, it sounds as though a college degree is likely to raise your earnings.

Most people have to take out student loans to do so. You will go into debt, but it doesn't have to be an absurd amount. You can probably find a state school for about 9-10k/year.

If you truly want to go to medical school, you'll really need to hit the books and make excellent marks, so that should be your focus. The bright side is that if you get accepted, you won't have to woryy about debt.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Becoming Self-Sufficient [Re: badchad]
    #7872767 - 01/13/08 11:49 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Don't become an M.D., it's not the occupation it used to be.  Get a bachelor's and then see what doors are out there for you to open.  I rarely see people working in their major.  Schooling is just preperation, people seem to forget that.  It's experience in the real world that will dictate where you end up.  Take advantage of internships.  Best way to get a job after graduation.  Best things you could have are an open-minded willingness to learn & tolerance to pain & perhaps degradation.  :hehehe:  Pay your dues in one way or another & you will one day be self-sufficient.


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Re: Becoming Self-Sufficient [Re: IllicitAlchemist]
    #7877266 - 01/14/08 09:36 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Either set yourself up for a really well paid job or get as much money in the bank as you can why you are still with your parents - these are the golden rules.

I wish I'd realised them when I was 16 and living rent free.


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Re: Becoming Self-Sufficient [Re: emrandel]
    #7877731 - 01/14/08 12:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

emrandel said:
If you really want to move out of your parents house there is nothing that can stop you except laziness. Ask for more hours at your current job, continue to look for a second job, sell everything you don't need and move some herb. Oh wow, I just realized you live in humbolt county. One road trip to Colorado and you'll be self sufficient for a couple of years. But illegal stuff aside. Start cutting your base living costs. A large part of your monthly costs are for having a car (i assume) insurance, gas and possibly even a car payment. That right there takes out 300-400 dollars a month. Get a bike, use public transportation... you'll be in much better shape after a month of that. Second biggest chunk of spending is going out to eat, and I don't mean like a fancy restaurant, I mean fast food or whatever. That adds up like crazy.

Now you cut those expenses, even a part time job is enough to pay for basic rent, utilities and food. It's not hard to get out w/o luxuries unless your credits out of control or you got and dirty ass criminal record.




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Re: Becoming Self-Sufficient [Re: impgl]
    #7877734 - 01/14/08 12:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

or you could squat buildings and steal.... though it tends to get old.


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