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Justin00
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bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros
#7870815 - 01/12/08 08:36 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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i need help i cant find a good casing method i want to grow a bulk i have 4 trays they are 3 feet x 2 feet and i want to know what should i do if i want highest growth i want to at least get 150 grams from each tray on each flush can anybody help me I'm kinda new at this but I'm a fast learner with alot of money to spend
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: Justin00]
#7871072 - 01/12/08 09:35 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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I personally use 100% vermiculite for the casings, but you cannot go wrong with the 50/50+ casing tek.. tried and true...
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thedefone
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#7871161 - 01/12/08 09:57 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Six square feet? How deep is your sub? If it's over 3 inches, then you should* be able to meet your goal. Anyway, 50/50+ is tried and true. casing depth should be 1/4 the depth of your sub.
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Justin00
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: Justin00]
#7871186 - 01/12/08 10:02 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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i see i never cased before right now i am doing brf cakes and i just got my first pins today and I'm all excited about it but I'm going big and wanting to bulk grow and i am ready to invest the money i have 6 square feet to work with, with each tray so I'm going to inoculate 12 half gallon jars of rye grains and i have 4 trays to do and then I'm going to use the 50/50 casing how cc's should i use I'm using a syringe to inoculate the jars they are half gallon jars how much ccs should i use on each jar? also i know this is hard to guess but I'm growing Ecuador's cubes and i want to know how many grams you think i would get from a 3x2 tray feet wise and 6 inch's deep please if someone could just guess maybe give me a idea it would help i wanna produce alot
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Justin00
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: thedefone]
#7871190 - 01/12/08 10:03 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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thedefone said: Six square feet? How deep is your sub? If it's over 3 inches, then you should* be able to meet your goal. Anyway, 50/50+ is tried and true. casing depth should be 1/4 the depth of your sub.
6 to 8 inches deep
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thedefone
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: Justin00]
#7871232 - 01/12/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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From what I've read, 6 inches is where the law of diminishing returns kicks in, but you're fine. You'll pull your 5 oz. off of there; just case it, and fruit those bitches.
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Justin00
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: Justin00]
#7871240 - 01/12/08 10:16 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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hmm sounds good
Edited by Justin00 (01/12/08 10:20 PM)
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thedefone
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: thedefone]
#7871255 - 01/12/08 10:20 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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how cc's should i use I'm using a syringe to inoculate the jars they are half gallon jars how much ccs should i use on each jar?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there Poncho... Take a breath.
Two questions. Is this your first grow? Have you started yet? If this is your first time and you are throwing caution to the wind, you may consider making some LC's to speed your colonization. I use 2cc per quart jar. You could probably get away with using the same amount on half-gallons, but you would have to expect slower growth.
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Edited by thedefone (01/12/08 10:20 PM)
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Justin00
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: thedefone]
#7871266 - 01/12/08 10:24 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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This is what making a green out of
going to put the trays on each shelve and then a light about each tray timer and sealing the out side with a clear plastic this like a mini green house to keep the in ill also have 2 running every 4 hours for 8 and ill have fans on the very top shelve sitting on top where the fan is pointing up so when the timer kicks it on it will suck out all the in the air and then ill have 1 mini computer fan by the lighting above each tray that will turn on after the big fan turns off top sucks the air out the mini fans will circulate the air around and then after that the will kick on for its 8 i mean this is my idea that working on here have any comments please add thank you
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Justin00
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: thedefone]
#7871283 - 01/12/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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thedefone said:
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how cc's should i use I'm using a syringe to inoculate the jars they are half gallon jars how much ccs should i use on each jar?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there Poncho... Take a breath.
Two questions. Is this your first grow? Have you started yet? If this is your first time and you are throwing caution to the wind, you may consider making some LC's to speed your colonization. I use 2cc per quart jar. You could probably get away with using the same amount on half-gallons, but you would have to expect slower growth.
No this isn't my first grow and i have tried LC and its about 8 days in rigth now and i have 10% mycelium growth in the jar and its just not working will i guess no contams just not growing fast i inoculated 2 cc into the jar for LC so far no good okok so I'm going to add 4 cc pre half gallon jar i get good deals on syringes 20 syringes for 100 dollars so I'm not worried about the cost i want the growth to speed alone fast as possible if i can inoculate more into it like 6cc i would you tell me i want to colonize half gallon rye grain in less then 2 weeks and I'm growing Hawaiian pes and Ecuador
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thedefone
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: Justin00]
#7871318 - 01/12/08 10:41 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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First of all, periods and commas are your friends. Use them.
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i want the growth to speed alone fast as possible if i can inoculate more into it like 6cc
Just don't jack up your moisture content. 6cc probably won't do that, but any more may do so. If you have the money and the time, try that LC out. Don't hinge your grow on those jars, but if that LC is viable, you will see faster growth from jars inoculated with that. Patience is key, you should know that. Start cutting corners and trying to speed up the process, and you will more likely than not, fail. Slow down, focus on what you're doing, and you will see more success than failure.
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Justin00
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: thedefone]
#7871348 - 01/12/08 10:49 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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sorry about the Commons and periods i am very bad at it sorry man what about My idea for the green house I'm making any comments on that and what is a hinge?
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thedefone
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Re: bulk casing need help advice anything from the pros [Re: Justin00]
#7871390 - 01/12/08 10:56 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Don't hinge your grow on those jars
Don't base your whole grow on the success of those LC inoculated jars. Your FC sounds way too complicated, or maybe it's the lack of punctuation. Also, you mention nowhere about how you will keep the humidity up. My advice is to take a closer look at how other people have set up their FC, and go more closely off of their designs. Look up Martha in the archives and see what others have done.
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Edited by thedefone (01/12/08 10:57 PM)
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