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templeton1
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My First Grow Log, PF Tek
#7869454 - 01/12/08 03:29 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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July -first inoculation, no result
August -second inoculation, virtually no sterility
October -6 cakes= no colonization (trash) -3 cakes= contamination (trash) -3 cakes= colonization, no contamination - 2 in terrarium at the moment - 1 fully colonized jar in waiting
Cakes were removed, washed with cold water, soaked in cool water for 24 hours, dunk and rolled in dry vermiculite, cakes set on aluminum foil in terrarium
Terrarium details: shoebox sized, plastic container, no holes for air exchange (periodically opened and fanned), perlite for humidification.
I made the mistake of not exposing them to enough light, so I initially had problems seeing any pinning



I began to exposed them to small amounts of light periodically (i'm very restricted as to what i can do as i still live with my parents). Whenever fanned, the cakes are sprayed down with distilled water. Room temperature is generally 69-72 fahrenheit.
Initial pinning was observed 10 January 2008.



2 days later, 12 January 2008, significant growth observed. unusual growth downward in some cases



 these two had grown downward into the perlite...
 the mushroom on the left seems to have an oddly colored cap structure.
so i'm not too pleased with the results thus far, but at least i have something...
any recommendations? I dug out the perlite around the downward-growing bastards and have been exposing them to as much sunlight as possible today...anything i can do further to stimulate more growth?
also, is there a such thing as an albino mushroom? whats that last one's deal?
and one last thing, when do i determine that a pin is an abort (and should therefore be picked)?
THANKS FOR ANY HELP IN ADVANCE
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7869489 - 01/12/08 03:40 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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aborts will have a discolored cap and it won't grow anymore, so if it stays the same size for 2 days it's an abort. other wise it seems u need more FAE.
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: Supplier]
#7869552 - 01/12/08 04:02 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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im pretty sure that increasing light coming from above will cause the mushrooms to grow towards the top instead of down.
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templeton1
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: killerthc]
#7869561 - 01/12/08 04:05 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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yeah, im working on lighting them from above as much as possible...
FAE= fresh air exposure?
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7870305 - 01/12/08 06:47 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Frequent Air Exchange
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: HeadFood]
#7870484 - 01/12/08 07:26 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Templeton,
Perhaps one solution to the awkward growth would be to paint the side of your fruiting chamber. The point of giving it light is to help trigger fruiting and tell which direction mushrooms are to grow.
If you grow in a translucent tub, light enters from all directions. Causing non-directional growth.
Hope this gives you some ideas where to go now, good luck on your future flushes.
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: HeadFood]
#7870719 - 01/12/08 08:16 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Quote:
HeadFood said: Frequent Air Exchange
Fresh air exchange
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: Blutjager]
#7870822 - 01/12/08 08:39 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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o woops....my bad. showing my noobness haha
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templeton1
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: HeadFood]
#7873831 - 01/13/08 03:22 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Thanks for the advice, here are the modifications that I made to my terrarium. I covered the sides in black construction paper and replaced the top with a large ziploc bag cut to make a large plastic sheet. I poked many small holes through the plastic to allow for continuous FAE, and cut a small flap held in place by tape that I can open to mist the cakes if needed.



Any more recommendations?
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templeton1
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7873856 - 01/13/08 03:28 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Once i begin to harvest the mushrooms, what routine should i follow?
thus far my only plans are to:
1. measure wet weight 2. take prints of the big fruits 3. dry using a desiccant/fan combination 4. measure dry weight 5. consume shrooms 6. soak cakes for 24 hours, restart process in hopes of another flush
does this seem about right? if not, any suggestions?
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7873868 - 01/13/08 03:31 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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after dunking roll it in some dry verm
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7875396 - 01/13/08 08:08 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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My recommendation: Don't let your parents find that shit. Other than that good job.
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: hellucinogen]
#7875663 - 01/13/08 08:51 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Did you use brown rice flour?
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templeton1
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: shroomials]
#7880708 - 01/14/08 10:12 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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yeah, i bought some organic brown rice and had to blend it to make my own flour
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7880872 - 01/14/08 10:45 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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what strain are they?
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templeton1
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: djsollest]
#7884176 - 01/15/08 03:54 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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they are hawaiian strain (i have heard they are quite potent)
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templeton1
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7884233 - 01/15/08 04:03 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Hey all, i picked my first two today...they were both quite oddly shaped and opened fairly early (as a result of my poor lighting/FAE):
shroom 1



shroom 2


i'm taking spore prints now, and drying the stems with a desiccant set-up
getting pretty excited about all this

P.S. What the hell is this?
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7884375 - 01/15/08 04:31 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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I may be wrong but... 1. the shroom is growing backwards OR 2.does not have a cap
Ive had shrooms (shroom 1) growing like that, what i did was got a 1/5 pint cake cut in half and left one half in the beaker and covered it foil, put a few holes in the foil, left it and grew in circles. i dint even humidify or gas exchange.
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: badman]
#7884700 - 01/15/08 05:29 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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did you say you put those in your FC back in October ?
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: Substance D]
#7884764 - 01/15/08 05:42 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Quote:
Substance D said: did you say you put those in your FC back in October ?
Those were his failed attempts...
Nice start, as stated you need more in-direct light. My FC is near a window with blinds. So it gets in-direct light during sun up and sun down. In your case that might be a chanellge since you live with your parents. So you can either kill them and soak the remains in acid, or find something like a computer monitor to hid the FC by...
I wouldn't clone those guys, wait until next flush...
Please don't kill your parents.
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: verminute]
#7885007 - 01/15/08 06:32 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Quote:
verminute said:
Quote:
Substance D said: did you say you put those in your FC back in October ?
Those were his failed attempts...
Nice start, as stated you need more in-direct light. My FC is near a window with blinds. So it gets in-direct light during sun up and sun down. In your case that might be a chanellge since you live with your parents. So you can either kill them and soak the remains in acid, or find something like a computer monitor to hid the FC by...
I wouldn't clone those guys, wait until next flush...
Please don't kill your parents.
oh i thought i read this October -6 cakes= no colonization (trash) -3 cakes= contamination (trash) -3 cakes= colonization, no contamination - 2 in terrarium at the moment - 1 fully colonized jar in waiting,i was just wondering how long they were in the FC,i just put my first 2 cakes in on friday so im trying to get a a time table for fruiting how long is to long to wait for pins
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: Substance D]
#7885185 - 01/15/08 07:03 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Yeah me too, I had to re-read....
I figured you read the same too.
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templeton1
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: verminute]
#7885680 - 01/15/08 08:29 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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actually, i did inoculate the jars back in october...it's been a really crazy process. i have really been inhibited in maintaining a good temperature for the mycelium to effectively colonize (the whole parents thing)...in fact, i still have one jar thats about 90% colonized (from that time).
So is there any reason that the other cake is showing absolutely no sign of pinning? i soaked, dunk and rolled the same for both cakes..and it seems as if the mycelium has a pretty strong hold on the cake. Do I just need to continue exposing it to as much indirect light and FAE as possible to encourage pinning, or is there something else that I can do?
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7888129 - 01/16/08 12:50 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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Yup, that's the best you can do... Also, don't touch them, leave 'em be.
We were both confused, we assumed you placed the cakes in the FC during Oct.
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templeton1
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: verminute]
#7983786 - 02/05/08 06:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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so here were my dried results, i ended up getting a little over 6g total:

alright so once i decided that my cakes were going nowhere, i decided to try something to get rid of all of my remaining supplies as i am done growing until next fall..
as stated in a former post:
"basically what i did was transform my small shoebox size terrarium from a perlite/cake growing chamber to a small tray. I layered the bottom with a bit of vermiculite, cut/crumbled the colonized cakes onto that, covered the cakes with 2 cups verm/1 cup water/1 cup BRF mixture, and cased with a small layer of vermiculite again. i know that it is most likely not going to work, or get contaminated, or produce very little if anything but i was just trying to get rid of the last of my materials in an attempt to produce a couple more fine mushrooms. I'm just beginning, and i understand that this is most likely going to be a complete failure, so don't worry about telling me that."
well that was a little over a week ago, and i have gotten some pretty good results thus far. i didn't understand that casing generally comes after full colonization of the substrate, and before fruiting. also, i was unaware of how seemingly unsuited vermiculite was as a casing material. HOWEVER, things seem to have taken a turn for the best...





So what should i do at this point? My first plan was to remove the layer of casing for the time being, but now (since the mycelium appears to be healthy and there are no visible contaminants taking hold) that seems kind of futile... should i just wait it out and allow for further colonization? or is it already time to being exposing it to even more direct light and provide for more FAE?
forgive me, i know this method is a little unorthodox..
any ideas? thanks for the help in advance.
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7983815 - 02/05/08 06:32 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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that stuff on the side really looks like cobweb to me
i might be wrong though
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: verminute]
#7983899 - 02/05/08 06:50 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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again, im no expert..
but that growth looks identical to mycelium that developed at the base of my cakes when i had initially dunk and rolled in verm
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: templeton1]
#7983994 - 02/05/08 07:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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the pics make it seem a tad gray, and it's a bit suspicious how its going nuts on only one side of the tub
wait it out and see if it takes over half of the casing layer overnight
get some peroxide and give it a misting and see if it melts
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Re: My First Grow Log, PF Tek [Re: Yrat]
#7993081 - 02/07/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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alright well some other green molds began to develop in the middle of the terrarium.. looks like trichoderma. i removed it as best as i could and misted the entire area with peroxide.
am i completely fucked or is there anything that i can salvage?
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