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does mycelium water not work on brf cakes???
    #7869441 - 01/12/08 03:26 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

i knocked up 6 or so brf cakes on the 5th of january with some mycelium water that i made out of a perfectly fine colonized rye jar following agar's tek just to see if it worked and i have 0% colonization on any of them.

there is plenty of mycelium floating around in the jar and the syringe had visible strands of mycelium in it also (ill try and post a pic of the jar tomorrow)

now i know that's not too terribly long ago but i inoculated 10 brf jars on the 8th with a multispore syringe and they are already 50% colonized. i thought this stuff was supposed to be way faster than ms innoculations.


whats the deal? does this stuff not work on brf cakes? Should i try some of it on some rye? or do you guys think its not viable?

thanks for the help in advance.


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: blood4blood]
    #7869452 - 01/12/08 03:28 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

what exactly is mycelium water? is it the liquid that is inside a colonized jar?


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: Supplier]
    #7869478 - 01/12/08 03:37 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=6886318&page=0&vc=&PHPSESSID=#Post6886318


this is the tek. its supposed to be easy as hell to make (whitch it was) and its supposed to work like a liquid culture. meaning it goes to work very fast colonizing because its a living mycelium network already.


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: blood4blood]
    #7870759 - 01/12/08 08:24 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

nobody has had any expierence with this?


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: blood4blood]
    #7870809 - 01/12/08 08:35 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
    #7870819 - 01/12/08 08:37 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

it sounds like you have way too much moisture or too little.. most likely too much, because you said you saw it floating around in the jar... there should be no standing liquid in your jars... that will for sure hinder growth...


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: blood4blood]
    #7871015 - 01/12/08 09:21 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

It's possible that the Liquid Culture you used got contaminated. Contaminants a lot of the time will run through your jars before the myc even grabs hold.


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: likwid]
    #7871041 - 01/12/08 09:28 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

b4b,
just wait. if it was contaminated you would see a discoloration or smell it.
Ther isnt too much water in the cake jars. It could just be taking its time.
Give it a few more days. I am sure the mycelium would have had to recover a bit from the ass kicking you gave it when you made the mycelium water


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: tahoe]
    #7871051 - 01/12/08 09:31 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I've been using that method to make syringes for years. Sometimes it doesn't take, but usually it's because I make the slurry too soon. Wait a week or so after full colonization, so the mycelium has a chance to 'bulk up' inside the jar. This way, there will be a lot more that washes off the grains into the water.
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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: tahoe]
    #7871057 - 01/12/08 09:32 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

no way... its been a week and no growth at all from LC.. no way... I get noticeable results within that.. no growth after 7 days with lc means something is wrong... correct me if im wrong


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7871100 - 01/12/08 09:42 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I had never seen this particular tek before.  Thank you for fucking up!  Just kidding, Blood4, just kidding. :grin: RR makes a good point.  How colonized was the jar you used to do this with?  Also, you may just need to wait a little longer, because you're adding that much more moisture? 

Thanks though, I've got 40 new PF jars waiting, not enough spores, and 4 FULLY colonized rye jars just laying around.  I needed that tek thrown in my face.


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7871397 - 01/12/08 10:58 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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DJYoshaBYD said:
it sounds like you have way too much moisture or too little.. most likely too much, because you said you saw it floating around in the jar... there should be no standing liquid in your jars... that will for sure hinder growth...





sorry for the misunderstnading. but what i meant to say here was, there was alot of mycelium floating around in the lc jar not the brf jar.

im pretty sure that i probabally made the myc water right when i noticed the jar being fully colonized. im defiently going to make another one and ill wait longer after full colonization before i attempt to make it.

ill give these jars a few more days and if i dont see any results ill just re-pc them and start over.

thanks for the help guys


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: blood4blood]
    #7871805 - 01/13/08 12:26 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

If you shoot a syringe full of that stuff into a honey water solution it will get so thick that no matter how much you shake it(Even with broken glass in it) you will have trouble getting it back into a syringe


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: Blutjager]
    #7872098 - 01/13/08 01:33 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

thats what i heard. i think i might try that just to see if what i have is still viable.


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: blood4blood]
    #7872389 - 01/13/08 05:21 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

The mycelium water didn't work for me either B4B! Don't feel bad. I guess it's like RR said, sometimes it takes and sometimes it doesn't. After that failure, I stuck with Grain to Grain transfers. G2G has never disappointed me.


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7872644 - 01/13/08 08:54 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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The mycelium water didn't work for me either B4B! Don't feel bad. I guess it's like RR said, sometimes it takes and sometimes it doesn't. After that failure, I stuck with Grain to Grain transfers. G2G has never disappointed me.





do you have a flowhood? i was thinkong of doing this too but all i have is a glovebox.


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: blood4blood]
    #7872655 - 01/13/08 09:00 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Yes, I have a flow hood. Although, you can use a glove box with the same results. The only thing the Flow hood did for me was give me Freedom. Freedom of the constrains of that little glove box area.


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7872851 - 01/13/08 10:34 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

well it looks like im not going for the myc water then haha. But it looks like it would be so promisinggg :[[[


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: Supplier]
    #7872869 - 01/13/08 10:40 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

ahhh... yo comprendo


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #7874007 - 01/13/08 03:58 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

ok so still no signs of life in these 7 jars i knocked up with myc water.

would i be able to shoot some spores into these without re-sterilizing them?

i opened one and smelt it. they still smell good.


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: blood4blood]
    #7874322 - 01/13/08 04:57 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

shoot spores into these jars without resterilizing them, sure if they are still sterile.
I still wait a few days for growth. You did kick the mycelium ass.

if you want to start using lc's instead of mw's you got to go with light malt powder instead of honey, dextrose, turbino, etc/.........

I use 1 gram of light malt powder to 250ml's of water and have awesome growth with almost clear water.
Less sugar is better


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: blood4blood]
    #7877575 - 01/14/08 09:47 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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i opened one and smelt it. they still smell good.




If you only opened one I'm sure that the rest are fine to re inoculate


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: Blutjager]
    #7877602 - 01/14/08 09:53 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

sometimes LCs just don't work on cakes
sometimes they just don't work at all >.>


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: anarchOi]
    #7877666 - 01/14/08 10:18 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

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sometimes LCs just don't work on cakes
sometimes they just don't work at all >.>



WTF???? if the lc work it will work on anything. Saying that sometimes they do not work on cales is horible information


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: tahoe]
    #7877676 - 01/14/08 10:23 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

more often than not the cakes i've innoc'd with LC either didn't grow at all or only grew very cotton like and broke apart during birthing

i guess i've just had bad luck with LCs


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Re: does mycelium water not work on brf cakes??? [Re: anarchOi] * 1
    #7877680 - 01/14/08 10:25 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

that is a sign of contamination. So the correct statement would be that you can not make a lc


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