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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7884899 - 01/15/08 06:09 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Yeah everybody thinks they're right so this isn't even going to change anybodies opinion anyway.




wrong. because unlike you, not everyone here behaves like a closed minded hypocritical idiot. and i mean no offense by saying that but up until this point, that is how you have behaved.

i on the other hand, am open to logical, rational debate and will most certainly change my mind if someone can provide scientific evidence that proves me wrong. now i've already outlined the type of evidence that was necessary and extended a friendly challenge to you to provide it.

i am a truth seeker, i want to know what the truth is regardless of whether it makes me right or wrong. if you, with your self-proclaimed expertise and "years of research" have come accross something which i missed, i implore you to please post it and unlighten us all. do it for the sake of science, for the sake of truth.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: porcupine]
    #7884927 - 01/15/08 06:16 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

You think I'm an idiot, I think you're an idiot. I know I'm not an idiot, so I don't care what you think about me. Do you realize that maybe I don't care enough about your opinion to go find research that I came across months ago? I've been in so many arguments like this I'm not going to post "studies" every time I say something. I post here to waste time, right now I'm stuck far away from where I should be without a car and a job so I have a lot of time to spare. I don't care what you think about pot, fuck don't smoke if it's damaging to your respiratory system.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7884999 - 01/15/08 06:30 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Why do you think porcupine is an idiot? Because he doesn't believe in something which you've provided no evidence for and continue to argue about and then hypocritically state that you don't care enough to actually back up your statements? Obviously you care because you can't stop yourself from defending your position.

I think you DO care about what he thinks about pot, otherwise you wouldn't have called him an idiot. Your hypocrisy could not be more transparent.  :lol:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7885011 - 01/15/08 06:33 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Reminds me of high school debates. Strictly emotional and all... Still it entertains me. Bravo.

Dudes. Light a joint, sit back and enjoy.

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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Babylon2012]
    #7885025 - 01/15/08 06:35 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I'm taking a break for a little while so I can enjoy it more when I come back. I'm sober as shit right now :sad:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7885173 - 01/15/08 07:01 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Caribou_Lou said:
You think I'm an idiot, I think you're an idiot.




wrong again. i don't know you well enough to decide whether or not you are an idiot, all i know is that you have behaved like one thus far.

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I know I'm not an idiot, so I don't care what you think about me. Do you realize that maybe I don't care enough about your opinion to go find research that I came across months ago? I've been in so many arguments like this I'm not going to post "studies" every time I say something. I post here to waste time, right now I'm stuck far away from where I should be without a car and a job so I have a lot of time to spare. I don't care what you think about pot, fuck don't smoke if it's damaging to your respiratory system.




if you have a lot of time to spare and have done as much research on marijuana as you claim, it would take you far less time to go find a study then to write out all these long posts in which you continueously contradict yourself. since i am able to find ansd access very recently published studies so quickly and easily, is it possible that perhaps i am more well researched than you? i am still trying to understand how a self proclaimed expert on something, who has done "years of research", can't remember a single one of his sources. can you explain that?

and like i said, it's not a matter of caring about my opinion but caring about us as a group finding the TRUTH. if you're not interested in contributing towards that goal, then don't enter into debates. and don't offer to provide evidence and then not provide any. you said you would post the sources from one of your school papers. well where are those? and how would it make you feel if you HAD actually posted them and yet i kept on insisting i was right and you were wrong but refused to ever back myself up with anything? considering how hostile you've been already, i don't think you would take very kindly to that. so maybe think a little bit about treating others the way you might wish to be treated in the future. it seems like you're having a very hard time accepting the fact that you've lost this debate, but you haven't yet. i am still willing to look into this wealth of scientific data you've studied for years but i somehow missed over. i am simply asking you, as a personal favor, to show me where it lies, so that i and other members of this community can become more knowledgeable as a whole.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: porcupine]
    #7885183 - 01/15/08 07:03 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

You just told me I'm an idiot :rofl2: You're right I'm pulling this out of my ass, I just decided to make it all up one day.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7885199 - 01/15/08 07:05 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

this is going nowhere fast...


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: THEBats]
    #7885205 - 01/15/08 07:06 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

It's like talking to a child..


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7885217 - 01/15/08 07:07 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Read the part where he said he doesn't think I'm an idiot.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7885229 - 01/15/08 07:10 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

He said you're acting like an idiot, not that you are one. Believe it or not there's a difference my friend.

I still think you're alright, I just wish you'd understand what it is people are trying to tell you.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7885244 - 01/15/08 07:13 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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You just told me I'm an idiot :rofl2: You're right I'm pulling this out of my ass, I just decided to make it all up one day. 




no, i said you were behaving like an idiot. just like i am capable of behaving like an idiot at times (and believe me, i have on more than one occasion). but that does that MAKE me an idiot? not necessarily. chances are almost everyone can think of a time in their life when they behaved like one. but we can also grow and learn from our mistakes.

it seems almost as if you're trying to change the subject to distract from the fact that you've lost the debate or cannot answer the questions i'm asking. instead of focusing on personal issues, can we simply focus on finding the truth? isn't that what we're here for?

i am simply asking you provide us with the ever so interesting information you claim to have and we are all so curious about. if smoking marijuana has indeed made you a better person, why is it so difficult for you to do us that simple favor? and then you would have it available for future reference since you claim this has come up so many times.

if i learned anything from smoking marijuana, it was to approach things with from an open minded, compassionate standpoint and treat others how i would wish to be treated. i am curious what you learned from it?


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: porcupine]
    #7885317 - 01/15/08 07:26 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

No i'm really not, at this point I'm done with this, but that won't stop me from reading your responses :smile:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7885331 - 01/15/08 07:28 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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No i'm really not, at this point I'm done with this, but that won't stop me from reading your responses :smile:




i have nothing further to say, i've already made my points and provided sources.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: porcupine]
    #7885356 - 01/15/08 07:32 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

is this the end?


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: THEBats]
    #7885371 - 01/15/08 07:35 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

that's up to you guys I will never stop checking this thread, ever.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7885391 - 01/15/08 07:38 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

yes you will. ha. and so the debate continues...


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7894601 - 01/17/08 07:47 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

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that's up to you guys I will never stop checking this thread, ever.




your just a big pot head...:)

:congrats:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7894603 - 01/17/08 07:47 PM (16 years, 15 days ago)

this is funny


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7895970 - 01/18/08 02:37 AM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I think it has to be said that not a single one of the arguments proposed, by caribou lou or otherwise, can stand on solid, scientific ground.

Due to the restrictive manner of laws surrounding drug studies, nearly none (if not, all) of the studies presented have passed the final step of the scientific process. These studies need to be repeated at least once to actually provide any sort of valid ground on which to stand. Saying that you KNOW anything about how marijuana affects the respiratory system is taking a leap of faith.

Just to give an example of how hard it is to do drug studies in the United States (and, by extension, much of the rest of the world due to our ridiculous war on drugs' influence):
Birth Control, a completely legal pharmaceutical, has never actually been tested on the majority group that uses it -- teenage girls. Because it is illegal to conduct studies on women of child-bearing age (up to a certain age...I'd have to look it up to tell you the exact age) so much of what we know about the safety of birth control is from much older women. Combine that with the fact that nearly half of the states in the US do not even allow any form of medicinal study and the whole issue becomes much more difficult.

In fact, The same can be said for most FDA-approved drugs. Most drugs on the market have only been proven safe for men.

Birth control is an FDA Approved class of drug, a drug of interest to pharmaceutical companies, and a drug of interest to the general populous and it even has a hard time making it to the end of the process.
Take that example and apply it to an illegal drug that the government would love to cast in a negative light and try to formulate an argument on the scant conclusions we've come up with.

I just thought that we should all be aware of this. Until marijuana is researched to a satisfying extent, don't claim you KNOW anything -- you are essentially guessing at this point.


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