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kotik
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7878987 - 01/14/08 04:07 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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all about moderation. unfortunately, for weed I havent figured it out just yet. 10 years and counting...
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: kotik]
#7879024 - 01/14/08 04:13 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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i love pot, and pot loves me.
thats gonna be whats real int he end.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7879978 - 01/14/08 07:19 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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manyc said: god damn dude. these egos are out of control. some of you claim that weed has helped you see the light but um... it sounds like your just self-justifying your overconsumption of marijuana.
thats great for all of you that are in the best shape of your life whilst smoking weed.. but not everybody reacts to weed the same way. i mean seriously. there is no bottom line for marijuana users. every single one is different - a lot are lazy, but creative and intelligent, while others are active, but ignorant and belligerent.
that's just the way it goes man.
Don't pretend like you know anybody that posts here, you guys are way too quick to make assumptions.
god damn, calm down. lmao.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
#7880234 - 01/14/08 08:07 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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Can everybody chill out? Ok first off I think we should drop the smoke argument. Most people, even most marijauna smokers, know that the smoke is not good for the lungs. It may not be as bad as tobacco smoke or other forms of smoke but its not good. It may not be that bad but you can't keep telling yourself that weed is perfect and has no negative effects.
I smoke weed. In fact for the past few weeks I've been smoking every single day, sometimes multiple times per day. And now I'm cutting back to weekend use only just to focus a little more in school and save my stash/lower tolerance.
I love marijuana. I love smoking it, and I love getting stoned and I love the culture of it. But I still won't go around parading as if weed is some perfect gift from God that has no negative effects and makes you into an awesome dude. That may be true for some people. For me, I would say weed has generally made me more open minded and accepting of life. It helps me to be happy with the little things, even when I'm not high (or this could be from lsd/mushrooms).
Even though it may have helped you and many others it still has negative effects for some people. For example, if you have no self control and smoke all day everyday chances are you aren't going to get much done. Thats kind of a given. One of my best friends and I started smoking weed at the same time. He was never particularly good in school and kinda didn't do a lot of his homework and stuff. Once he started smoking the weed kind of amplified it for him. He was smoking every day all the time and his grades suffered. He ended up doing coke for a short while and got into perscription pills and methadone. He doesn't do that shit anymore though, he quit. He's a cool guy but when it comes to drugs he really doesn't have self control.
Now I'm not saying this happens to everyone, or even most users, in fact i'd estimate this kind of thing happens to much less than half. But the point is that it does happen for some people if they habitually use it. You cannot say that weed does not have some negative effects on some people.
Personally, I don't think weed has had any long lasting negative effects on me in my 2 year history of smoking it. My grades haven't slipped, I have a job, and friends. Sometimes when I go on "binges" where I smoke every day for a couple of weeks I do notice some things and then I usually decide to cut back to weekends only. And then I eventually start smoking every day again and must cut back. Its a cycle of sorts lol.
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drkrobotnik said: quit arguin about it damaging your lungs.
it cant be good for them, but that doesn't mean that marijuana is necessarily bad or AS bad as other things. or maybe it is good. i'm sure if there was a legitimate medicinal use to combat lung cancer there would be a huge campaign by the pro-legalization movement.
that's way off the point of the post.
dude wanted to know if anyone has quit and did it help them. i think i am the only one who actually responded on topic..
maybe we should just lock this since it's so far off topic.. the question has been answered..
There's a study that talks about this. I think in the study the cancer rate in the tobacco and marijuana group was lower than just tobacco. of course since none of this is viable by my word, give me some time to find it.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
#7880281 - 01/14/08 08:15 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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from my experience, any drug used in excess will fuck with you. personally, when i smoked weed on a daily basis, being stoned started being less meaningful and more of the norm. sobriety became a rarety and i noticed that if i took a few days break, the high became what i remembered it being when i first started smoking. now, i like to do it on a weekly basis and it's much more powerful and enjoyable.
i also have anti-social traits and they become stronger when i'm high. while stoned, large groups of people make me paranoid and i feel like the world is so fucking crowded that i don't need to be out in it. i don't blame the weed for these feelings though, it just brings them out more.
and as far as the jogging goes, that can be a natural high in itself. it does really seem to make me think clearly. i like to get to the point where i go for a long jog, and then reward myself with a knife hit afterwards if i feel like i exerted myself to the fullest.
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Weed has changed my life for the better beyond words. Maybe it's a quick fix, maybe it's an illusion, but life has literally never been better since I started smoking regularly. I can honestly say it has bee one of the best things I have done for myself.
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I ordered a vaporizer, then i will get no harmful effects and all the fun.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Cannashroom]
#7881557 - 01/15/08 02:18 AM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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I didn't even look at your posted source porc, all I needed to see was the .gov to realize it was going to be a biased study.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Flugon_Nine]
#7882680 - 01/15/08 10:49 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Flugon_Nine said: I didn't even look at your posted source porc, all I needed to see was the .gov to realize it was going to be a biased study.
human ignorance never ceases to amaze me .gov is in the url because i used the pubmed search engine to find the study.
PubMed is a free search engine for accessing the MEDLINE database of citations and abstracts of biomedical research articles. The core subject is medicine, and PubMed covers fields related to medicine, such as nursing and other allied health disciplines. It also provides very full coverage of the related biomedical sciences, such as biochemistry and cell biology. It is offered by the United States National Library of Medicine at the National Institutes of Health as part of the Entrez information retrieval system. As with other indexes, the inclusion of an article in PubMed does not endorse that article's contents.
the very same studies which find medicinal benefits to marijuana and no link to lung cancer can also be accessed through pubmed. you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: porcupine]
#7883871 - 01/15/08 03:04 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Let's just kill two birds with one stone and kill Caribou_Lou.
1.) We would find how tar covered his daily marijuana consuming lungs are.
2.) We would have one less arogant, idiotic, and simply embarrassing marijuana user.
I have never, ever in my years of smoking coughed up ANYTHING. You can't just tell me no tar builds up, even if it does eventually go away. Like others have stated, look at any used bowl, there is TONS of resin in it. The fact I have to clean my piece out after every 10 or so uses confirms that the smoke builds up tar. You don't cough because the smoke is hot, you cough because it is not supposed to be in there and your body's reflex is to cough to get it out of your respitory system.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Fruitboot]
#7884038 - 01/15/08 03:32 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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There's no way huh? Nobody said you cough because it's hot, maybe you should go reread some posts. Go do some research about marijuana tar and then come back, because as of now you are just speculating.
Pipes are made of glass, resin sticks to it. Your lungs aren't made of glass, and your lungs have mucous that cleans your lungs.. amazing huh.
And yeah have you people forgot about edibles and vaporizers? I guess it's not the weed after all..
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7884317 - 01/15/08 04:18 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Caribou_Lou said: There's no way huh? Nobody said you cough because it's hot, maybe you should go reread some posts.
Um...
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Caribou_Lou said: Smoke can still be hot even if it's cooled, that's the only reason why it "hurts". I don't even cough anymore when I smoke.
I did reread posts and this is what you said. You said it "hurts" and what causes you to cough, the fact that it hurts and it is putting tar on your lungs! Your lungs aren't coated with some magical enzyme that keeps anything from sticking to it.
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Caribou_Lou said: Go do some research about marijuana tar and then come back, because as of now you are just speculating.
You hypocrite, you can't tell someone else to go do research while your lazy, stoner ass won't even back yourself up with the "years worth of research" you've apparently done. I've always thought it was funny when people say vaping is healthy for you. The fact that you are saying smoking is healthy for you is just astounding. Who gives a shit if it allows the opening of alveoli and airways if it is coating them in tar at the same time? You keep repeating the same "facts" over and over again and not addressing the challenges of other members. You sir, fail at this arguement.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Fruitboot]
#7884347 - 01/15/08 04:23 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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It's called mucous, not some special enzyme. I said it hurts because it's hot in your throat, that has nothing to do with the next sentence.. I didn't say it's health you moron. I fail at this argument? Oh no, at the end of the day I know who's right and it doesn't matter to me what you think.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7884422 - 01/15/08 04:40 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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please just let this fucking thread die.
it should have died a long time ago.
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lol
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: THEBats]
#7884597 - 01/15/08 05:14 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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I tried
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: THEBats]
#7884601 - 01/15/08 05:14 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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It's actually an irrelevant argument because whatever the truth is, I'm still going to smoke weed every day.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: g00ru]
#7884620 - 01/15/08 05:18 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Yeah everybody thinks they're right so this isn't even going to change anybodies opinion anyway. Either way, the negative effects aren't as bad as many things people do, and it's no reason not to smoke. That's what really matters I guess.
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7884853 - 01/15/08 06:00 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Caribou_Lou said: Yeah everybody thinks they're right so this isn't even going to change anybodies opinion anyway. Either way, the negative effects aren't as bad as many things people do, and it's no reason not to smoke. That's what really matters I guess.
exactly
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