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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7874877 - 01/13/08 06:51 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

well what is this english class you dumb fuck lol im not trying to impress anyone with my spelling or grammer ya and if you cant figure out how those to stories relate then you are an idiot.

you are arguing a stupid point any smoke is harmfull when directly breathed into the lungs.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: awesomebastard]
    #7874974 - 01/13/08 07:09 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

why?


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7875005 - 01/13/08 07:14 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I'm not going to lie, most of the people posting in this thread have no idea what they are talking about.

Although cannabis is not that bad for you and can help prevent cancer ANY type of smoke can cause irritation in your lungs and throat. Although cannabis smoke may not be as severely damaging as tobacco and other smokables, it still can have negative effects.

I smoke every day, and I am in the best shape of my life. I work out five times a week, currently am ranked number one in the state for my sport, and next year will probably have a free ride to college.

Don't blame your problems on pot. That's what people who suck at life do. My grades went up once I started smoking. I'm more motivated than ever. Stop fucking moping about how the pot is ruining your life and drive, your just a pussy with no self control. If your concerned about smoke just get a vape, or cook.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7875114 - 01/13/08 07:32 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Smoking is not good for your lungs. But, neither is eating fast food. Live life a little.




if this was a response to me, then just to clarify, im not saying people shouldn't "live a little". that would make me one hell of a hypocrite. the difference is you're at least smart enough to be able to acknowledge that smoking weed every day isn't good for your lungs.

it's when people start posting things like "Marijuana doesn't cause damage to your respiratory system, give it up" i feel like not only is this information misleading and potentially dangerous but it also makes stoners look like delusional idiots or addicts in denial. anyone agree?




You don't even have an argument fool. I guarantee I know more about pot than you or anyone else who is trying to argue with me. Give me one good reason why it hurts your respiratory system. You're ignorant, I used to think just like you.. until I learned that I was wrong. But unlike you, I can accept it.




why do you keep asking me to give you a reason when i already posted a link to a very recent study? i gave you a reason, now it's your job to explain why it's wrong like you said you were going to do and then never did.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Grylls]
    #7875185 - 01/13/08 07:42 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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It really is quite addictive.  Do you remember those potheads back in highschool?  All they ever talked about was pot.  Their jokes were pot based.  They made frequent references to pot.  Everything to them would have made a sweet bong.  They believed that the solution to everything was pot.  They didn't smoke it, THEY WERE THE FUCKING POT!:grin:




That described me perfectly in high-school.

I'm seriously addicted to pot and it's not even funny. I really should quit for the same reasons as the original poster, weed makes me kinda anti-social, gives me slight social anxiety, and makes me a lazy ass. All I do all day is sit around the house and smoke weed, the only physical activity I do is snowboarding. But I can say it hasn't affected my grades at all, I got 4 A's and 2 B's last semester.

I really should quit smoking pot because of the negative affects, but even with the negative effects I sill LOVE weed. I just love being stoned, it's a love-hate relationship. What I really need to do is to just cut back on smoking, stop smoking 24/7 and just smoke like once a day or maybe a couple times a week. :potleaf:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7875439 - 01/13/08 08:14 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Hewwo im mawk.
i wyke girls... money...
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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: xZipVi3tBoii]
    #7875476 - 01/13/08 08:21 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Not to take sides, cause I'm just interested, but if you are going to say someone is wrong about something, at least back it up with sources. You can't win an argument with anecdotal evidence.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Veter]
    #7875518 - 01/13/08 08:28 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

i have a word for everyone  VAPORIZER:crazy2:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: satyr]
    #7875662 - 01/13/08 08:51 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I would consider myself a habitual smoker...I do experience some negative effects but they are mild. I know of some friends however who are like the poster describes. Everyones different. I'm just glad I don't get that way cause I love pot too much to give it up. Cancer aside smoking anything causes problems such as emphysema however as the above poster mentioned you can always vape or eat your weed to get around this negative effect which I plan to do someday. I think I would still smoke joints once in awhile however because imo there is nothing better than a nice jay.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7875879 - 01/13/08 09:29 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Any problems that you might have are only amplified by marijuana, it never causes new problems.




one problem, which i think marijuana causes, is that it tends to make habitual users such as yourself delusional.




habitual marijuana use did this to me for sure.  it definitely brought on some kind of psychosis.

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Even back in high school I started to get better grades because I knew I could come home and reward myself with relief of that day's stress




everytime i quit and start again i say that ill do this, and i start out doing this, but i end up losing control and smoking all the time.  i know i have self control, but not with weed.  i even had a phase with cocaine and never lost control or even came close.  i just have no control with weed...because it's just to good.  :frown:

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hey hey hey, smoke weed everyday.
Seriously though, habitual use . . . for some people it works, others it doesn't. Some of my friends smoke habitually and thus are completely incapable of doing anything because the way weed effects them is different then it effects habitual users like myself and others that can still focus and manage themselves accordingly. Different strokes for different folks.




this is what i was trying to get at when i made this post.  i wanted to know if anyone could relate with the problems i had with habitual marijuana use.

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Marijuana doesn't cause damage to your respiratory system, give it up.




putting smoke into your lungs isn't good for them.  maybe it doesn't cause permanent damage or even much damage, but are you really going to argue with this?


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7875983 - 01/13/08 09:44 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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putting smoke into your lungs isn't good for them. maybe it doesn't cause permanent damage or even much damage, but are you really going to argue with this?




Yes, because I KNOW for a fact that I'm right. If it doesn't cause permanent damage, then what the fuck are you people trying to argue about? Everybody says "putting smoke into your lungs isn't good", well can you tell me why or not? because until then, that's just your opinion. I've seen pictures of a marijuana smoker's lungs, and I know that the tar does NOT stick to your lungs even for a little while. I could show proof that I'm right but I'm not about to find any of it, everything I said has come from many hours of reading.. I'm not just making this shit up. At the end of the day I could give a fuck what you people think about pot, because I know the truth. It's just frustrating to me because most of you arguing with me don't know much about pot marijuana at all, and it's pretty clear to me..


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7876006 - 01/13/08 09:48 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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putting smoke into your lungs isn't good for them. maybe it doesn't cause permanent damage or even much damage, but are you really going to argue with this?




Yes, because I KNOW for a fact that I'm right. If it doesn't cause permanent damage, then what the fuck are you people trying to argue about? Everybody says "putting smoke into your lungs isn't good", well can you tell me why or not? because until then, that's just your opinion. I've seen pictures of a marijuana smoker's lungs, and I know that the tar does NOT stick to your lungs even for a little while. I could show proof that I'm right but I'm not about to find any of it, everything I said has come from many hours of reading.. I'm not just making this shit up. At the end of the day I could give a fuck what you people think about pot, because I know the truth. It's just frustrating to me because most of you arguing with me don't know much about pot marijuana at all, and it's pretty clear to me..




you obviously care, because your arguing back. Porcupine is posting direct sources(even though i haven't looked at them). if you know your right about this, prove it, rather than saying you dont care and continuing arguing.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7876028 - 01/13/08 09:53 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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putting smoke into your lungs isn't good for them. maybe it doesn't cause permanent damage or even much damage, but are you really going to argue with this?




Yes, because I KNOW for a fact that I'm right. If it doesn't cause permanent damage, then what the fuck are you people trying to argue about? Everybody says "putting smoke into your lungs isn't good", well can you tell me why or not? because until then, that's just your opinion. I've seen pictures of a marijuana smoker's lungs, and I know that the tar does NOT stick to your lungs even for a little while. I could show proof that I'm right but I'm not about to find any of it, everything I said has come from many hours of reading.. I'm not just making this shit up. At the end of the day I could give a fuck what you people think about pot, because I know the truth. It's just frustrating to me because most of you arguing with me don't know much about pot marijuana at all, and it's pretty clear to me..




Please do post your sources. I don't see how marijuana smoke is any different, and there are plenty of studies that show marijuana has potential to cause ailments like emphysema. Even erowid cites this as some of the negative effects to marijuana. I love marijuana more than the next guy and I too have done my research so step off your high horse buddy. I would love to see info that says otherwise so please take the time to post it.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7876140 - 01/13/08 10:14 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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putting smoke into your lungs isn't good for them. maybe it doesn't cause permanent damage or even much damage, but are you really going to argue with this?




Yes, because I KNOW for a fact that I'm right. If it doesn't cause permanent damage, then what the fuck are you people trying to argue about? Everybody says "putting smoke into your lungs isn't good", well can you tell me why or not? because until then, that's just your opinion.




i already posted a very recent study on the matter, not my opinion but a study. so why are you claiming that it is just our opinion?



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I've seen pictures of a marijuana smoker's lungs, and I know that the tar does NOT stick to your lungs even for a little while. I could show proof that I'm right but I'm not about to find any of it, everything I said has come from many hours of reading.. I'm not just making this shit up. At the end of the day I could give a fuck what you people think about pot, because I know the truth. It's just frustrating to me because most of you arguing with me don't know much about pot marijuana at all, and it's pretty clear to me..




so in reality, it's you who is just posting an opinion and not willing to back it up with any research. if you're not "making this shit up" then let's see your sources for christ's sake.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: THEBats]
    #7876143 - 01/13/08 10:14 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

emphysema? do you really believe that?

Tobacco /tar permanently sticks to your lungs, and it causes the alveoli in your lungs to burst. Marijuana smoke causes them to inflame temporarily (not really considered 'damage'), but they go back to normal shortly after. And THC helps open the airways in your lungs, which helps clear them out. If you smoke everyday your lungs are healthy. Did you ever realize how when you smoke a lot you have to clear your throat more before you talk? that's because the tar comes up out of your lungs with mucous and clogs your throat.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7876145 - 01/13/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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guruu said:
Marijuana doesn't make you lose motivation. However, smoking marijuana can introduce you to a lifestyle in which more traditional 'success' is less highly valued.





Very well put, when you start smoking you realize what is truly important in life and what is not.




I used to think that weed gave me all of the answers to life as well. Then after about 3 years of smoking almost daily and I was barely getting high anymore I realized that the only answer that I ever gained from pot was "it feels good to be high". And then it didn't really matter what my opinions on success were, because now I was still doing the same shit but I wasn't getting high so it was lame. I don't feel like weed makes me focus on what's important. In fact, it usually makes me less social and less attentive to people around me like my family and my friends. That's just me though, and I'm just giving some anecdotal evidence to show that it is silly to look at weed from only a positive light. Sure, it may be my fault, whatever that means, but in my opinion it takes two to tango. It's analogous to saying that 9/11 happened because America brought it on themselves; while we all know that 9/11 couldn't have happened without the terrorists participation. Or something. I'm going to bed now.

Caribou, do you seriously believe that inhaling smoke, any smoke, could make your lungs healthier? That's like Bush saying that the war in Iraq is making Iraqis happier.

Sorry, I've been reading up on way too much politics today.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7876161 - 01/13/08 10:18 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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emphysema? do you really believe that?

Tobacco /tar permanently sticks to your lungs, and it causes the alveoli in your lungs to burst. Marijuana smoke causes them to inflame temporarily (not really considered 'damage'), but they go back to normal shortly after. And THC helps open the airways in your lungs, which helps clear them out. If you smoke everyday your lungs are healthy. Did you ever realize how when you smoke a lot you have to clear your throat more before you talk? that's because the tar comes up out of your lungs with mucous and clogs your throat.




You still aren't citing sources... also no I don't clear my throat before speaking.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7876165 - 01/13/08 10:19 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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I used to think that weed gave me all of the answers to life as well. Then after about 3 years of smoking almost daily and I was barely getting high anymore I realized that the only answer that I ever gained from pot was "it feels good to be high". And then it didn't really matter what my opinions on success were, because now I was still doing the same shit but I wasn't getting high so it was lame. I don't feel like weed makes me focus on what's important. In fact, it usually makes me less social and less attentive to people around me like my family and my friends. That's just me though, and I'm just giving some anecdotal evidence to show that it is silly to look at weed from only a positive light. Sure, it may be my fault, whatever that means, but in my opinion it takes two to tango. It's analogous to saying that 9/11 happened because America brought it on themselves; while we all know that 9/11 couldn't have happened without the terrorists participation. Or something. I'm going to bed now.

Caribou, do you seriously believe that inhaling smoke, any smoke, could make your lungs healthier? That's like Bush saying that the war in Iraq is making Iraqis happier.

Sorry, I've been reading up on way too much politics today.




Like I said, there are certainly situations were weed can be abused and it can be detrimental. But as far as an objective view of the drug goes, I think you would be hard pressed to say that the negative affects can be attributed to weed and not the user.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: g00ru]
    #7876185 - 01/13/08 10:21 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

There is no object without a subject... it makes no sense to say that weed is 100% positive when not taking human participation in it into account. Basically you are saying that the user is a bad person that couldn't handle the 100% positive effects of weed. That is a cop out.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7876187 - 01/13/08 10:22 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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emphysema? do you really believe that?

Tobacco /tar permanently sticks to your lungs, and it causes the alveoli in your lungs to burst. Marijuana smoke causes them to inflame temporarily (not really considered 'damage'), but they go back to normal shortly after. And THC helps open the airways in your lungs, which helps clear them out. If you smoke everyday your lungs are healthy. Did you ever realize how when you smoke a lot you have to clear your throat more before you talk? that's because the tar comes up out of your lungs with mucous and clogs your throat.




stop complaining that other people are only posting opinions when that is all you're doing.

i challenge you to post one single study which concludes that long term, heavy marijuana smoking has absolutely no adverse affects on the respiratory system as you claim. and the study must be up to date and use modern assessments of respiratory status, because otherwise the more recent studies will invalidate it.


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