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Habitual Marijuana Use
    #7869162 - 01/12/08 01:55 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

when i make a habit of smoking weed, i've noticed that i become very anti-social. i rarely smoke with others, go straight home from work, smoke weed and stay in all day long. i also eat very unhealthy and lose almost all motivation to exercise. i dont plan things out in my life and end up with no goals/achievements.

can anyone relate?

also, im never going to go back to habitual marijuana use. everytime i jog(something i just started that i haven't done in years) i look back and realize how marijuana has misguided me. making me think that everything was okay and going fine when really i was only going to feel like i wasted time.

could this have something to do with blood rushing to the brain and "waking it up" in some way?


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7869211 - 01/12/08 02:07 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

ya that's why i quit

also it was getting hard to breathe and i was making bad decisions.. just in life.

i ran my ass off for months after i quit.. like every tiem i wanted to smoke i would go running and it was way more satisfying than smoking.

the whole blood rush to the head thing could be plausible, but it's more likely to do with an adrenaline rush that you get from running :laugh:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7869217 - 01/12/08 02:09 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

did things get better after you quit? did you make new friends and start going somewhere in life?

i look back to when i didn't smoke weed and i realize that i had friends that always wanted to hang out, and i had goals, like going to college and whatnot.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7869238 - 01/12/08 02:17 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I smoke every day, but I'm in the best shape i ever have been. The problem is not the herb, but your own motivation. You're the person not wanting to do anything or eat well, the weed may make you a bit more lazy, but in the end its your decision not to exercise. I really enjoy going to the gym and then go home smoke a bowl and eating a good meal.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Cannashroom]
    #7869247 - 01/12/08 02:20 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

FUCK YES I DID.

best decision i made in my life looking back..

not everyone is suited to smoke marijuana.  i'm not one of those people.

the stoners are probably going to talk you out of it but i can tell you it's a good decision..

i just didn't like dealing with smokers and dealers most of them are shady/sketchy people and i just dont interact with people like that. i'm usually very straightforward.

and cannashroom.. you might feel like you're in the best shape of your life, but your lungs probably aren't if you 'smoke everyday' :tongue:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Cannashroom]
    #7869255 - 01/12/08 02:26 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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Cannashroom said:
The problem is not the herb, but your own motivation.




you dont know that though. marijuana has different effects on different people. sure, it was my decision not to do anything, but i know that the weed i smoked made me lean towards that decision. i can tell that when i dont smoke weed, im completely different.

i didn't make this thread to debate. i just wanted to see if anyone could relate.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7869266 - 01/12/08 02:29 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

ya dude i mean if you are thinking if that's what you should do... make a decision and stick to it ya know.

cutting back couldn't hurt but for me i had to quit altogether and just do my own thing for a while.

i lost a few smoking buddies.. but looking back it was a better decision for me..

it's been like three years and i still to this day feel like smoking some times, but if i do ever smoke its only one day a year 4/20 :P

it's never as good as people blow it up to be, though.

alcohol and shrooms are way better in my opinion anyways.. much more social :laugh:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7869270 - 01/12/08 02:31 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

It's called amotivational syndrome.

I haven't smoked in years and whenever I think long enough about bud, I can feel a desire to smoke it again even though I have no business with it anymore; ever.

It really is quite addictive.  Do you remember those potheads back in highschool?  All they ever talked about was pot.  Their jokes were pot based.  They made frequent references to pot.  Everything to them would have made a sweet bong.  They believed that the solution to everything was pot.  They didn't smoke it, THEY WERE THE FUCKING POT!:grin:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Grylls]
    #7869304 - 01/12/08 02:41 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

As I deal with the same problem you describe it only has to be that way if you let it. I use to run track, box, and work out all the time. It boils down to if you want to smoke bud do so, but don't make that your life. Try smoking in the evenings after you get home hangin out with friends exercising or w/e. That's what iv'e been doing the last year or so and it helps out. I also have alot of friends that smoke so that gets me out of the house and doing something.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: DontPlay]
    #7869424 - 01/12/08 03:21 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

You can change yourself you know, and after awhile it becomes routine. Get off your lazy ass and clean, or do something productive. I smoke everyday and it doesn't make me anti-social, although it does make me not really care about my relationships. The only thing I don't like about marijuana is that I have a hard time dealing with girls while I'm high, I get like super anxious and stuff if I don't know them too well.. i'm just an anxious person anyway though. What's so important about socializing with people anyway? The only friends I care about are my friends I smoke with.. nobody I know that doesn't smoke has a relationship like mine with their friends.

Don't blame your problems on weed, it gives it a bad repuation. Any problems that you might have are only amplified by marijuana, it never causes new problems. If you're lazy when you smoke, then I guarantee you were lazy before you even started smoking. I will never stop smoking weed, for anybody or anything.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7869460 - 01/12/08 03:31 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Some people can be blazed all day and still get a ton of shit done, some people are better off, waiting till they accomplish everything they need to do and then blaze

I think the whole amotivational syndrome thing is exaggerated but there is some truth to it, especially in younger people.

to the op- I'd say just find your groove man, nobody else can tell you what's best for you. If you find you're not getting enough done, it might be wise to cut back a little until you reach a level of productivity your satisfied with.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7869465 - 01/12/08 03:32 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

do what ya gotta do.


Edited by im_on_a_boat (01/12/08 03:41 PM)


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7869534 - 01/12/08 03:53 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

I'm sorry but you're a fool. Speak for yourself, weed might make YOU a loser. Not me. How can you tell me I'm oblivious "like every other stoner"..? That honestly makes me sick, I guarantee I have a lot more knowledge and experience with marijuana than you or anyone you know.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7869545 - 01/12/08 03:59 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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Any problems that you might have are only amplified by marijuana, it never causes new problems.




one problem, which i think marijuana causes, is that it tends to make habitual users such as yourself delusional. at least alcoholics or tobacco addicts can acknowledge that these substances occasionally cause new problems. but weed never causes new problems? how can you think that? damage to the respiratory system and impaired lung function aren't new problems? it's actions on the hippocampus which interfere with the formation of memories isn't a new problem? habitual marijuana use carries along with it a wide range of potential NEW problems.

the fact that you claim it never causes new problems for anyone just shows how much marijuana has skewed your perception. it did this same thing to me. it took me years to realize how bad habitual marijuana use truly is for the mind, body and spirit.

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I will never stop smoking weed, for anybody or anything.




spoken like a true addict.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7869551 - 01/12/08 04:02 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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I guarantee I have a lot more knowledge and experience with marijuana than you or anyone you know.




glad you know what you're talking about. i personally have smoked my fair share. and i have quit and i have seen it from the other side. i can only assume that you haven't quit and seen it from the other side (from a nonsmoker's point of view) so i would say that i have more knowledge about the situation considering i can analyze both sides of the argument. i've been where you've been. i may not have as much 'experience' since i only smoked for a year or so.. but it was a lot of smoking in that time period.. up to five or six blunts a day with my buddies.. no exaggeration.

i'm not knocking general marijuana use. i dont have a problem with marijuana. i honestly wish it was legal so you could do what you do and not have to go to jail if you get caught doing it.. honestly.

i just cant see anyone who smokes marijuana all the time like a daily thing being as successful as they could be.. or living up to their potential i guess is a better way to put that. same thing with alcohol or any drug for that matter. it's just that marijuana users seem to have a false certainty that it is harmless and doesn't affect them like other drugs because it is 'not addicting'

that's my argument.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7869556 - 01/12/08 04:04 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

i get like that, but i get off my ass and do shit when i have to i guess.

i still go out to chill and shit. go to work.

you just have to control it and not the other way around. its easy:bigblunt:


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7869557 - 01/12/08 04:04 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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I'm sorry but you're a fool. Speak for yourself, weed might make YOU a loser. Not me. How can you tell me I'm oblivious "like every other stoner"..? That honestly makes me sick, I guarantee I have a lot more knowledge and experience with marijuana than you or anyone you know.




he can tell simply by the way you talk about marijuana, like for example, as i illustrated in my prior post, your claim that it never causes new problems.

this view is quite far off from reality, where habitual marijuana use can cause a variety of new problems.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: porcupine]
    #7869585 - 01/12/08 04:11 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

You don't know me at all, so stop pretending like you do. You guys don't know what you're talking about. Damage to the respiratory system? I'm not even going to waste my time on that. Okay, it might cause very mild psychosis with some people. It slightly affects your memory, but not as much as anybody thinks. Everybody who smokes blames their memory problems on weed, but my friend who hasn't smoked in 8 months has just as many if not more memory problems as I do. What else does it do? Enlighten me.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7869591 - 01/12/08 04:12 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

read my post.


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Re: Habitual Marijuana Use [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7869620 - 01/12/08 04:18 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

You don't think I've ever quit? For fuck's sake, chill with the assumptions and pothead stereotypes. I'm not claiming weed doesn't have it's downside, it's just not as bad as 99% of people think. When you start to smoke you realize it's not as bad as people have told you your whole life.. You're confusing this with "smokers having a false certainty that it's harmless". I know it can change some people, but only if you let it. It made me a BETTER person. So just because you're a loser when you smoke, doesn't mean everybody is.


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I will never stop smoking weed, for anybody or anything.




spoken like a true addict.




"A true addict"? Haha.. :whatever:


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