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Re: Overdoses. [Re: blissedout]
    #7873901 - 01/13/08 03:36 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

A lot of people don't love life and couldn't care less. Some do and make really bad mistakes..


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Re: Overdoses. [Re: blissedout]
    #7873910 - 01/13/08 03:37 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

if it "baffles" you maybe you haven't learned some important lessons in life. as in some people have experiences that numb their senses towards any love or care. so if you can't sense love then love doesn't exist for them and that's basically it.


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Re: Overdoses. [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7874144 - 01/13/08 04:23 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I understand what you're saying. I just have a love of life through really fucked up experiences that have happened throughout my lifetime.

It doesn't really baffle me. That was maybe the wrong choice of wording. It just sort of lets me down. I like people, but am very sceptical as to their intent most of the time. I want to believe that they will do the right thing. Call me a cynical optimist.

Sometimes I think that people just need to stop, take a deep breath, and think about what they are doing. I understand that some people just don't care. I don't expect them to change except through their own choosing.

Change is something that one does in one's self. Whether it be good or bad. All I can hope for is for people to be positively influenced by the change that I try and create within myself. I can't help but be influenced by the actions of the people that affect my life and the people in my circles of friends.


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Re: Overdoses. [Re: blissedout]
    #7874295 - 01/13/08 04:51 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

death is inevitable, it is the largest lesson of life, the culmination. when you examine a persons priorities, it is easy to see that the people that accidentally OD may have loved life, but they were more drawn to the drugs. this should be obvious. but in reality, the drugs are just as much a part of life as everything else. when someone accidentally ODs (and dies) they reach the culmination of their quest for the most fucked up they can get. that may sound harsh, but spells itself out pretty easily.

when someone commits suicide by way of ODing, it is not so much about the drugs as it is the person. again, when looking at their priorities, it is easy to see that people that are depressed, all year round or just during the winter (are you seasonly affected? you must be SAD lol), derive the meaning in their life from choosing to identify with depression. what is the appitomy of depression? i have been depressed and it is deeply alluring. it is itself a very deep state of mind. on the other hand, happiness is very shallow. it is easy to see why people explore the deep waters of depression, there is not much to being happy. killing yourself is the appitomy of depression, it is a celebration for reaching the bottom of that ocean, you could say.

i may come off as insensitive, but my belief is that we have all chosen to be here, exactly where we are, to live the life we are living right now, whatever it may be.

this belief comes from the idea that when we die, we go through a number of stages of death. the last stage of death, if we have not yet chosen to expand our awareness into infinity, is to choose the life that we will live next. this idea was written down in the books of the dead (Tibetan and Egyptian) and is somewhat related to karma, but it is something much more instinctual for me.

the clairvoyant Ross Peterson once said in a trance reading on the subject of enlightenment, "each soul must recognize that it comes from God, that it is of God, that it is part of God, and that the original separation was by choice. And the Purpose of the series of earthly lives is to return to the beginning-union with the Godhead"

he also talked about how souls are aware of the destiny of the bodies they are going to inhabit. i can't let someones death derail me because in choosing life we have also chosen death. people are dieing all over the earth right now, this very second, as you read this. if we don't realize death was our choice when we chose life, it is the most painful thing there is.

so because of this belief i do not see death as being anywhere remotely sad or depressing. i just don't choose that existence. i see every death as the ultimate celebration of life. everyones life is different so everyones celebration must be for different reasons and everyone celebrates differently.


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Re: Overdoses. [Re: chubbycharley]
    #7874528 - 01/13/08 05:40 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Alot of what you say reflects my views, as well, but I disagree about happiness being shallow. Happiness is relative. One's happiness is measured in various ways, with results varying from person to person. Even the term 'happiness' is interpreted differently by each of us. What makes us happy? Whatever it happens to be, I definitely think that true happiness can be as complex as the darkest recesses of depression. That's just from my experiences.

You bring good talk to the discussion, though. Thanks you.


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Re: Overdoses. [Re: blissedout]
    #7874858 - 01/13/08 06:48 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

it can be dangerous for someone to quit xanax cold turkey, especially if the individual has taken 4mgs for over 12 weeks. Theres a risk of seizure.


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While the severity and incidence of withdrawal phenomena appear to be related to dose and duration of treatment, withdrawal symptoms, including seizures, have been reported after only brief therapy with alprazolam at doses within the recommended range for the treatment of anxiety (e.g., 0.75 to 4 mg/day). Signs and symptoms of withdrawal are often more prominent after rapid decrease of dosage or abrupt discontinuance. The risk of withdrawal seizures may be increased at doses above 4 mg/day.

Patients, especially individuals with a history of seizures or epilepsy, should not be abruptly discontinued from any CNS depressant agent, including alprazolam. It is recommended that all patients on alprazolam who require a dosage reduction be gradually tapered under close supervision.




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Re: Overdoses. [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7876347 - 01/13/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Yeah, I've been reading up on it. My friend seems to be doing alright. I am keeping a close eye on him and have scored him some phenobarbitol to help reduce the risk of seizure. I have him take 30mg evey 8-12 hours. So far so good. Wish us luck.


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Re: Overdoses. [Re: blissedout]
    #7876442 - 01/13/08 11:48 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Good Luck!


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Re: Overdoses. [Re: Tangerines]
    #7876906 - 01/14/08 01:52 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

good luck, blissedout.

i have several acquaintances that aren't close to me enough to be called friends but anyway i know them and get along with them. a few of them are suicidal, have been in institutions and one of them is currently on the run from a mental hospital. i've seen lots of depressing stuff but unfortunately i've never had to bury a friend.

if you take it all too seriously the burden can crush you.


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Re: Overdoses. [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7877443 - 01/14/08 09:02 AM (16 years, 18 days ago)

"each soul must recognize that it comes from God, that it is of God, that it is part of God, and that the original separation was by choice. And the Purpose of the series of earthly lives is to return to the beginning-union with the Godhead"

thats a very profound statement which coincides with what I've been saying for a long time

I often wonder if god is our future collective selves...but does that mean we become what created us? how is that even possible? is such an impossibility just another expression of perfection

was jesus actually a perfect child spawned from this future collective self(which would be capable of analyzing all ppl and basically breeding selection/perfection) a child in contact with the collective through all time and space without the need for technology(I'm assuming that the collective would be a mix of organic humans and machines/computers...if this is the case the internet is actually a stepping stone and a key ingredient in the evolution of our species) so was jesus a child spawned from this future mix of technology and biology which was sent back to carry out the exact set of events it needed to either ensure its existence in the future or to propel its future self into perfection)

just some theorys which have crossed my mind...but the quote you posted I feel is pure truth regardless of wheather my theory has an accuracy to it at all


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