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MushroomTrip
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
#7882534 - 01/15/08 10:23 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Love Cap said: You obviously didn't get my point. At least your girl here kept on with the subject of what we were talking about here. but you, you choose to keep attacking me. Therefore, i'm only going to disregard everything you have to say unless it applies to the subject. I haven't broken any rules, oh god of the P&S forum!
You're doing it right now 
Ahh yes, and I shall reply to your post later on, now I have to do what's most important to me - be with my sweetheart.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
#7882551 - 01/15/08 10:25 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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I didn't attack you, now did I? If you perceive dissenting viewpoints and critical analysis of one's own behavior as an "attack", then it simply further illustrates a misunderstanding of this forum. Such is the case, though, with individuals who associate a sense of identity to the expressions they put forth in this forum.
You can say you'll disregard it, but we all know you'll feel compelled to read it anyways.
Also, I see no reason to trivalize the purpose and intention of the P&S forum. If anything, it signifies a lack of respect for the form in which you are interacting.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: fireworks_god]
#7882602 - 01/15/08 10:32 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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When you think i'm breaking the rules, it's because i'm pointing out how you are trying to take philosophy and turn it into a physics discussion. I'm also simply pointing out that it's philosophy AND SPIRITUALITY... which is almost impossible to put logic into. I'm allowed to do that, if i was still breaking the rules, then why isn't a mod telling me so? This is fucking ridiculous if we can't have a philosophical discussion with out this bullshit.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
#7882637 - 01/15/08 10:40 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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What, you don't want to have a philosophical discussion about this bullshit? Doesn't seem that way, considering your continued participation. I myself am interested in doing so, since we're talking about the purpose and intention of the forum here.
Do you honestly expect a moderator to be online 24/7 to moderate in absence of your own sense of moderation?
I find your concept of logic having no place in spirituality entirely unsubstantiated. Spirituality and logic go hand-in-hand. I also see no substance to your "pointing out my taking a philosophical discussion and turning it into physics". Its all moot, because anyone who can't understand why they are having a discussion that they themselves started by violating the rules of this forum doesn't compel me to invest more of my own time.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: fireworks_god]
#7882679 - 01/15/08 10:49 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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well seems like you have plenty of time to argue about the bullshit factor of it, instead of discussing the philosophical points. And mod, since she made a comment about 'being with her sweetheart'... since that has no philosophical value, am i 'allowed' to say how fucking idiotic and pointless that statement was? AM I?!
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
#7882698 - 01/15/08 10:54 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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No you aren't.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: fireworks_god]
#7882729 - 01/15/08 11:01 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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notice how every usually leaves when you two come into the thread, does that tell you anything?
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
#7882928 - 01/15/08 11:29 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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It tells me its hard to type when you're bowing before someone.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: fireworks_god]
#7882986 - 01/15/08 11:41 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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ignored. you have nothing interesting to say anymore.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
#7883002 - 01/15/08 11:43 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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The Shroomery desperately needs a butthurt emoticon
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7883022 - 01/15/08 11:47 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Geeeeeeesss ya'll.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: indica]
#7883562 - 01/15/08 01:57 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Alright everyone. Enough flaming. Argue all you like, but calling people names in this forum is out of line. Geeze, I'm away for a few hours and come back to find this.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Diploid]
#7883589 - 01/15/08 02:04 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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i hope i wasn't the only one with a warning. shit. i'm still trying to explain my view on the existence of a soul. and the third eye. is anyone still out there up for discussion? or were you all chased away by this dumb side tracking? i do believe that the third eye could be the pineal gland, since that's the part of the brain that has been proven to vibrate when entering an altered state, like i said before, for example, meditation. it is a speculation that that is when dmt is released into the brain. but i do know opening the third eye is something that exists, and anyone who denies that just hasn't had theirs opened
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
#7883709 - 01/15/08 02:33 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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the pineal gland, since that's the part of the brain that has been proven to vibrate when entering an altered state
I'm not sure I buy this.
Do you have a link to a credible source?
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Diploid]
#7883717 - 01/15/08 02:35 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Diploid said: Alright everyone. Enough flaming. Argue all you like, but calling people names in this forum is out of line. Geeze, I'm away for a few hours and come back to find this.
When you leave like that, be sure to put newspaper on the floor first and lock all the cabinets.
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http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/man-evol/mie-16.htm
also, check out the book Occultism Of The Secret Doctrine By H. P. Blavatsky
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
#7883880 - 01/15/08 03:06 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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I asked for a credible source. The stated objective of the Theosophical Society, from their own web is:
The first objective of The Theosophical Society is to demonstrate that the oneness of all life is a fact in nature and to form a nucleus of a universal brotherhood. This, according to Blavatsky, is because...
That's an organization with an agenda.
And your link simply says:
The heart is higher, because it is the organ of the individual's spiritual nature, including the higher manas or spiritual intellect. When the heart inflames the pineal gland and sets it vibrating rapidly, then so strong is the inflow of spiritual force that the man experiencing this has his very body clothed in an aureole of glory. A nimbus is behind his head, for as the pineal gland vibrates rapidly the inner eye is opened and sees infinity; and the aureole or nimbus is the energic outflow from this activity of the pineal gland.
But it provides nothing to back up the assertion. Simply stating something in a vacuum does not make it credible or true.
So, I'll ask again: do you have a link to a credible (read: peer reviewed science article) that supports what you're claiming (that the pineal vibrates)? The Theosophical society simply saying it's true "because they said so" isn't any better than you saying it's true "because you said so".
There are dozens of peer reviewed neurology journals. If this pineal vibration is a real phenomenon, surely one of them has reported it by now, no?
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Diploid]
#7883896 - 01/15/08 03:10 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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alright, i'll search for it. but you should also check out that book.
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
#7895392 - 01/17/08 10:49 PM (16 years, 15 days ago) |
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this thread is so interesting... thanks guys
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: mr_pat]
#7897066 - 01/18/08 11:30 AM (16 years, 14 days ago) |
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Much of the speculation behind DMT doesn't make any sense to me - such as the "escape pod" or death-soul release serum postulates. Take for instance somebody who gets shot in the head from behind by a tank. There isn't going to be any time for any DMT release, or anything relating to cognition at all in fact. So where does this leave the soul?
While my extensive personal use of DMT has felt me inclined hold spiritual beliefs, I don't think anyone really knows what the function of DMT is. If post-physical-death life, God, spiritual/mystical realities, and all that other stuff that's completely irrelevant to everyday life are actually real, I believe that DMT is a key to access these. But like I said it's hard to see the revelance of what DMT offers to the world you inevitably return to. Then again it's been awhile since I've smoked it, and as time goes on you completely forget the utter immensity, realness, familiarity, and magnificence of a breakthrough DMT trip and all of the things it seems to imply.
McKenna put it well:
"Q: How can someone benefit from that experience? (referring to DMT/Ayahuasca)
A:...seems to me it gives real answers. Maybe you don't believe those answers, but I know a convincing argument when I see it. If anybody with argument could do to you what DMT does to you, why you'd embrace it in a hurry." ~Terence McKenna "The Last Word" video
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