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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7881788 - 01/15/08 05:19 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Love Cap said:

So what you're saying MushroomTrip, is that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about?




Love Cap... :chillpill:

Please keep it civil, you have been warned. :kittyeagle:

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Until now we don't know about it's certain existence so it's all speculation.




And what's wrong with that? How would Science or Philosophy progress without theories and speculation?

I understand these things haven't been proven, but that is no reason not to discuss them.

Food for thought:

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Philosophy  works with special types of objects: the totalities. The basic characteristics of this type of object are their metaphysical, transcendental, and total character. The character of these objects determines the specificity of language and the methods of philosophy. The language of philosophy represents symbolic language; speculation is the basic method of philosophy.




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What is it that philosophers do when they do philosophy? Much could be said here, but at lest two activities come to mind as typical of the methods of philosophers. Philosophers have from earliest times engaged in speculation, and philosophers have, for almost as long, engaged in analysis.

Speculation is merely the use of imagination and logic to offer new possibilities about things, especially about things not yet understood by science. The very first ancient Greek philosophers were speculators about the nature of reality. They wished to make sense of the rich but confusing world of sense experience, and they thought that there must be some underlying principle or principles of reality that could explain it all. Thales (600 B.C.) thought the underlying principle was water. Others had other speculative ideas about reality, some farfetched, but some quite remarkable for their anticipation of later scientific discoveries. Anaximander (550 B.C.) thought that reality, including the planets and life on earth, had evolved from a primal substance infinite and eternal. Perhaps the most rermarkable theory was that of Democritus (450 B.C.) who held that reality consisted of tiny invisible, indivisible particles called atoms. These examples show the connection between science and speculative philosophy: philosophy offers some possibilities which science can not prove or disprove at the time. But as these possibilities received scientific confirmation, what was philosophy ceases to be and becomes part of science. Indeed, much of what is now science was once part of speculative philosophy. Before the birth of modern science in the 17th century, physics was officially known as "natural philosophy." In more recent times what began as philosophical speculation about the nature and origin of the universe has led to the emergence of scientific cosmology and the confirmation of theories like the big bang.

Philosophical speculation has proved useful in non-scientific areas as well. When Thomas Jefferson and the American Founding Fathers undertook the "American experient" they were borrowing heavily on the political philosophers of the previous century, especially John Locke (Treatise on Government, 1690) who provided revolutionary ideas about the virtues of represented government, the separation of powers and human rights, including the right of revolution.

Analysis typically involves the inspection and definition of concepts in order to gain a clearer understanding of things, especially things that the philosopher finds puzzling. Philosophers have perennially asked such questions as What is justice? What is knowledge? What is consciousness? What is reality? And these questions call for analysis of the concepts involved, viz. the concept of justice and the concept of knowledge.

As an example of philosophical analysis (though somewhat simplistic) consider the problem of the tree that falls in the forest with no one (not even a bird or chipmunk) around to hear it. The question to be answered is: Does the falling tree, when it hits the ground, make any sound? You may have heard of this problem. It is sometimes used (wrongly) as an example of a philosophical question that has no answer, or (again wrongly) of the pointlessness of philosophical investigation. But the question does have a definite answer, and the example nicely illustrates (even if overly simplified) the usefulness of philosophical analysis.

On first take, some want to answer that obviously the tree will make a sound. After all, sound is something objectively real which shouldn't need the presence of a perceiver to occur, even if it is true that we've never heard a sound that we didn't hear. Even the sound we didn't hear could be evidenced by (say) a tape recorder placed in the vicinity. So yes, it makes a sound, or so it seems. But, in contrast, it also seems that sound is a subjective phenomenon, something not unlike a sweet taste or the feeling of pain—things that seem to require a perceiver. And so one might well doubt whether the tree really makes any sound. What should be apparent here is that "sound" has more than one meaning. That is, there is more than one concept of sound. Indeed, consider two definitions of sound, one which we might call the physics concept, and the other the psychology concept of sound.

soundphys = vibrations in a medium (such as air)

soundpsy = a sensation; an auditory experience

These are both legitimate definitions. The first (physics) reflects interest in sound as a physical phenomenon. The second (psychology) reflects interest in sound as a kind of experience. Notice that these two kinds of sound, though related, are different and can occur independent of each other. Normally sound as vibrations causes sound as an experience. But they can occur independently, i.e. one without the other. For example, sound as vibrations doesn't have to cause sound as an experience (perceivers might not be present or their ears/brains might be damaged). And sound as an experience could occur without being caused by vibrations in the air (the perceiver might be undergoing some internal halluncinogenic stimulus from chemicals in the brain). Once we see the distinction between these two concepts we can see that the original question is ambiguous; it has more than one meaning. The question (Will the tree make any sound?) is really one of two questions:

(1) Will the tree make any soundphys?
(2) Will the tree make any soundpsy?

The answer to the original querstion depends on the sort of sound the questioner is asking about. The answer to (1) is: Yes, there will be sound in the physics sense (soundphys i.e. vibrations). The answer to (2) is: No, there will not be sound in the psychology sense (soundpsy i.e. auditory experience). So the question, once clarified, has a definite answer.

This example (though untypically simple) illustrates not only the technique of philosophical analysis, but it also shows its importance. Analysis reminds us that words have more than one meaning, and things called by the same name may really be different concepts. The clarification of concepts is often a prerequisite to a proper understanding of a problem which, in turn, is a prerequisite for dispelling confusion and providing a satisfactory answer to some of philosophy's ultimate questions.




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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7881790 - 01/15/08 05:24 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I think that one of the main purposes of philosophy is to make the difference between the is and is not.
This is essential if we want to ever make some progress.
Now... this IS NOT doesn't necessarily imply lack of existence of a certain phenomenon let's say, but the lack of reliable evidence.
Basically, if philosophy would stop taking that to account, it wouldn't be philosophy anymore.

The one sided view belongs to those who choose to feel butt hurt about the aim of philosophy.
It's like starting to bitch because lemons are not sweet and then when someone offers them honey as a sweet alternative they say that what THEY want are sweet lemons. :lol:
Philosophy doesn't close any door, doesn't limit one or keep them from any possibility, like belief does. In the same time it gives one the possibility to understand, to structure and maneuver life in a much more efficient and constructive way.

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Would'nt it be easier to break everything down into the most non-emotional, robotic terms, to more easily rationalize things?




At first I would say yes.
But if I think about it more I'll say not necessarily.
Meaning that emotions and non-robotic things have their well defined in there.
One strong example in that direction is the Poem of Parmenides.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7881794 - 01/15/08 05:31 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Now... this IS NOT doesn't necessarily imply lack of existence of a certain phenomenon let's say, but the lack of reliable evidence.
Basically, if philosophy would stop taking that to account, it wouldn't be philosophy anymore.




I think you are confusing philosophy with physics. Did you read my post?

Philosophy is not about what is or isn't, it's about what might be.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Middleman]
    #7882112 - 01/15/08 08:11 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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And what's wrong with that? How would Science or Philosophy progress without theories and speculation?

I understand these things haven't been proven, but that is no reason not to discuss them.





Yes, as long as we keep in mind that it IS speculation.
Many people get offended when they're being told that their dear theory is at the state of speculation.
Tell me, how is this in any way constructive to philosophy and advancement in correct thinking?

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Philosophy is not about what is or isn't, it's about what might be.




This is exactly why I said:
"Now... this IS NOT doesn't necessarily imply lack of existence of a certain phenomenon let's say, but the lack of reliable evidence."

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Speculation is merely the use of imagination and logic to offer new possibilities about things, especially about things not yet understood by science.




No.
If an idea remains at the state of speculation it means that it had logical inadequacies.
Imagination and logic have to fit together in order to become philosophically valid.

I never implied that we have reached the most accurate answers through philosophy.
On the contrary, I think that we are still on the very beginning.
However, this is entirely different than just: things not yet understood by science. :lol:
Using this chain of thought, one could say that unicorns are still not understood by science.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7882180 - 01/15/08 08:34 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Breaking down the soul to a measurable tangible substance kind of takes away some of the meaning of the soul, don't you think? we're talking about spirituality here, aren't we?
Has the pineal gland been mentioned yet? I'm pretty sure that it has been proven that certain actions, such as meditation for example vibrates that part of your brain... and the SPECULATION (that's for you, girl) that comes from that is that DMT is released when the pineal gland is being charged.

And to mushroomtrip, you just totally contradicted yourself by telling people to contribute or leave.... saying 'we have no idea' doesn't really contribute much. and i think it's pretty fucking hilarious that your only response to my last post is calling me underage. who's acting underage again? It's just so sad to see intelligent people, people who actually contribute INSIGHT to the discussion leave the P&S section because of your annoyance, but I'm not going to be one of them.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7882190 - 01/15/08 08:38 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Looks like I didn't see the 3rd page until after that response, but let me say, there is a difference between science and philosophy.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7882233 - 01/15/08 08:57 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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And to mushroomtrip, you just totally contradicted yourself by telling people to contribute or leave.... saying 'we have no idea' doesn't really contribute much.




Really?
I'm interested how you reached this conclusion because your argumentation would be aiming towards sustaining that the soul exists.
So tell me, does the soul exist? :strokebeard:
Perhaps you're holding some evidence that the rest of us are unaware of. :smirk:
Otherwise, it's all just bull shit talking with no foundation in reality. :imslow:

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and i think it's pretty fucking hilarious that your only response to my last post is calling me underage. who's acting underage again? It's just so sad to see intelligent people, people who actually contribute INSIGHT to the discussion leave the P&S section because of your annoyance, but I'm not going to be one of them.




Well your post didn't require any philosophical view since it was all just bitching and complaining. :smirk:
:bitch:
In the near future please hold those beliefs for yourself and focus on the subject that's being discussed.

Ahhh and one more thing: stating the obvious (what we don't know yet) is an important contribution in combating the fixed ideas that stand against progress.  :flowstone:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7882245 - 01/15/08 09:01 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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And to mushroomtrip, you just totally contradicted yourself by telling people to contribute or leave.... saying 'we have no idea' doesn't really contribute much. and i think it's pretty fucking hilarious that your only response to my last post is calling me underage. who's acting underage again? It's just so sad to see intelligent people, people who actually contribute INSIGHT to the discussion leave the P&S section because of your annoyance, but I'm not going to be one of them.




Such ignorance of the forum rules. Discuss the ideas and not the poster, hmm? :strokebeard:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7882284 - 01/15/08 09:11 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Stating the obvious is like implying that rest of us aren't seeing that.
No, I cannot 'scientifically prove' that the soul exists.

From wikipedia: The soul, according to many religious and philosophical traditions, is the self-aware essence unique to a particular living being. In these traditions the soul is thought to incorporate the inner essence of each living being, and to be the true basis for sapience. It is believed in many cultures and religions that the soul is the unification of one's sense of identity.

I'm sorry for you if you have not connected with your soul.
So since you don't have proof, do you think spirituality exists?
And is there any other kind of proof that you take in that doesn't come from a lab or someone in a white coat?
Say for example, you and 10 of your friends all had the exact same visions and enlightening experience, and it felt more real than anything you've felt before... would that be proof to you that it is real?
Since this is an open forum, and it's also philosophy, I'm not holding shit back.  :commonsense:

and middleman, mod, where do you draw the line here?


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7882292 - 01/15/08 09:14 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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And to mushroomtrip, you just totally contradicted yourself by telling people to contribute or leave.... saying 'we have no idea' doesn't really contribute much. and i think it's pretty fucking hilarious that your only response to my last post is calling me underage. who's acting underage again? It's just so sad to see intelligent people, people who actually contribute INSIGHT to the discussion leave the P&S section because of your annoyance, but I'm not going to be one of them.




Such ignorance of the forum rules. Discuss the ideas and not the poster, hmm? :strokebeard:




ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU JUST DID? HAHAHAHAHA

isn't that so sweet that your love is backing you up? awwww i hope you DO meet in outer space!!! :blowme:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7882293 - 01/15/08 09:14 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

He obviously drew the line with your first post, which he has already warned you about. Flames, personalisms, none of which are permitted, turning an on-topic discussion into some kind of personality war simply because you objected to a viewpoint that someone else put forth... Way to go. :rolleyes:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7882307 - 01/15/08 09:18 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU JUST DID? HAHAHAHAHA

isn't that so sweet that your love is backing you up? awwww i hope you DO meet in outer space!!! :blowme:




I'm taking it upon myself, acting as honorary moderator in Middleman's stead in pointing it out, since I threw in the towel of simply deleting the comment myself. :smirk:  He's already given you a warning and you continue to degrade the level of discourse in this thread to an immature level that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Congratulations, life awards you with the "I'm Posting In The Wrong Forum And I'm Stubbornly Oblivious To The Reality Of It All" title. :wink:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7882313 - 01/15/08 09:20 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I'm not objecting anyone's view point, i'm objecting to your little girlfriend putting down everyone else's view point. Like I said, this is philosophy and not everything in it can be proven.

And, if you couldn't see, I've already said what I wanted to say about my problems with the way she argues, and I've already gotten back on the subject. Now did you come in this forum to defend her, or did you come into this forum to talk about subject? Because I've already gotten back on and now you're just side tracking.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7882337 - 01/15/08 09:31 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

I'm calling a spade a spade, as you've opened the opportunity for doing so by blatantly disregarding the rules, even after receiving a moderator warning agansit continuance. Anyone who would continuously seek so obtusely to making objections regarding the personal nature of another in these manners doesn't understand the purpose and intention of this forum. Your immature "little girlfriend" comments and likewise are nothing more than personal attacks, or references, depending on just how much investment you are placing within them; regardless, they have no place in P&S.

Your saying as much regarding her manner of approaching discussion, which is explicity encouraged in the forum rules and guidelines, has no place in this forum. Opening the subject in such a manner, continuing it, and then conviently trying to dodge your responsibility in doing so by attempting to place your behavior on me, a simple observer who is compelled to speak out for the intention and purpose of P&S, and then referring to your redeeming act of focusing once more on the on-topic discussion does not escape me.

I have no need to defend MT, as she is more than capable of pointing out the irony in your berating someone for speaking up for the purpose and intention of this forum. :lol: Its intriguing that you would bend the rules and then speak out for them when someone calls you on it. :smirk:

I'd be happy enough to see you actually read the forum rules and post a quick summary on exactly how discussion in this forum is intended to be carried out, but, in consideration of the likely inevitability of further avoidance of assumption of one's own responsibility for one's actions, I'll simply go back to jamming on my guitar and reflecting on the days when I used to babysit individuals who couldn't take the time to moderate themselves. :wink:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7882364 - 01/15/08 09:39 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

As if you wouldn't chime in if it wasn't about your girlfriend. Just as much as I have talked about her personality in arguing, she has degraded my intelligence in the first place. As soon as the mod told me to chill, I chilled, the only other thing I've pointed out since is her contradicting herself which is allowed, and I've seen her do the same plenty. You, staying off topic this much is also contradicting yourself.  Like I said, I've already gotten back on the subject, but you choose to keep whining. My last post you completely ignored what I was saying about the subject and just kept on about bullshit. NOW. lets get back on the subject. Where were we? I'll re post what I last said.




Stating the obvious is like implying that rest of us aren't seeing that.
No, I cannot 'scientifically prove' that the soul exists.

From wikipedia: The soul, according to many religious and philosophical traditions, is the self-aware essence unique to a particular living being. In these traditions the soul is thought to incorporate the inner essence of each living being, and to be the true basis for sapience. It is believed in many cultures and religions that the soul is the unification of one's sense of identity.

I'm sorry for you if you have not connected with your soul.
So since you don't have proof, do you think spirituality exists?
And is there any other kind of proof that you take in that doesn't come from a lab or someone in a white coat?
Say for example, you and 10 of your friends all had the exact same visions and enlightening experience, and it felt more real than anything you've felt before... would that be proof to you that it is real?
Since this is an open forum, and it's also philosophy, I'm not holding shit back. :commonsense:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7882377 - 01/15/08 09:42 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Stating the obvious is like implying that rest of us aren't seeing that.
No, I cannot 'scientifically prove' that the soul exists.




Thank you very much, that's all I needed to know :smirk:
You can't talk about things that are uncertain in a certain way. Not from a philosophical perspective.
I have nothing against your personal beliefs, ad long as you keep them personal. As long as you don't turn them into something that guides the public flux of thinking. Because if you do that mass delusion occurs and I think we already have enough of that. :hehehe:
It's easy to see (if you decide to think towards it), how many errors of thinking a simple statement such as the one about the existence of a soul can produce. This is how religion appears, all those fear based ideas, followed by all that resentments and hate towards other people.
This is how people believe in a god that will punish those the "did them wrong", this is how we let go of our ability to remain lucid in moments of vulnerability.

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Say for example, you and 10 of your friends all had the exact same visions and enlightening experience, and it felt more real than anything you've felt before... would that be proof to you that it is real?




Friends usually think a like.
Humans usually think a like, we all resemble more than we might want to admit.
How is it so hard to believe that those "striking" similarities come from that?

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I'm not holding shit back.




It seems so  :glittershitz:


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All this time I've loved you
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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7882450 - 01/15/08 10:06 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

Ok, maybe not even friends, what if that same situation happened with strangers?
also, you skipped a few responses of my post. the definition of a soul. that doesn't mean that the soul doesn't exist. i'll ask again; is there any other proof to you besides people with phd's and lab coats? i think experience is enough proof to me, and if you've broken through as well, that would be proof to you.
I think that's the beauty of spirituality, because it's beyond our language and technology to prove things lying in it.
and maybe that's our next step in human progress, when we're able to reach that level of reality in our science.

'that's all i needed to know'.... that's the reason arguing with you bothers me, because you will ignore a lot of important point and just choose what statements you want to tear apart. if you want to have a real solid discussion with me, you have to take in every point i make.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7882463 - 01/15/08 10:09 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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As if you wouldn't chime in if it wasn't about your girlfriend.




I thought you had already gotten back on the original topic for discussion? :strokebeard:

I have a marked history of standing up for the ideals this forum is founded upon. I wouldn't have chimed in if I didn't witness someone chide someone, with whom I'm coincidentally related to, bearing no relevance to the matter (you only mention it because you blatantly disregard the rules of the forum), that is standing for those ideals.

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Just as much as I have talked about her personality in arguing, she has degraded my intelligence in the first place.




How exactly does someone other than yourself reduce the value of your own intelligence? :what:

Personalisms aren't permitted in this forum.

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As soon as the mod told me to chill, I chilled, the only other thing I've pointed out since is her contradicting herself which is allowed, and I've seen her do the same plenty.




No, you didn't chill. You continued to violate the rules. :sorry:

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You, staying off topic this much is also contradicting yourself.




No it isn't. Settling a misunderstanding of how this forum is intended to be utilized directly impacts topics staying on-topic, as it promotes understanding of the nature of the forum and how discussion are meant to remain on-topic. If you think you should be afforded a blank check to violate the rules and then avoid being subjected to critical assessment of your behavior with this dodge, you're wrong. Of course, another limitation, namely the fact that I now have better things to do, will probably let you get away with it further. :smirk:

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  Like I said, I've already gotten back on the subject, but you choose to keep whining.




So do you. :shrug:

Ahh, duality. Sometimes it is trying to teach you something, though. :wink:

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My last post you completely ignored what I was saying about the subject and just kept on about bullshit.




So, the ideals the forum are founded upon are bullshit? No wonder you blatantly disregard them and personally attack others for simply using this forum for its intended purpose. :lol: :cuckoo:

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NOW. lets get back on the subject.




Nah, I'd rather have the last word. :naughty:

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Where were we? I'll re post what I last said.




Why would you do that? The fact that some didn't find it inspiring enough to respond to doesn't mean that they simply happened to miss it the first time. :smile:

Well, I've had my debate feast for the month, I'll catch you all later. :bye:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Love Cap]
    #7882472 - 01/15/08 10:12 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

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Love Cap said:
'that's all i needed to know'.... that's the reason arguing with you bothers me, because you will ignore a lot of important point and just choose what statements you want to tear apart. if you want to have a real solid discussion with me, you have to take in every point i make.




Ahh, I can't resist! :smirk:

I find it interesting that you feel to hold the superior viewpoint of how others should choose to respond to your ideas. Why not make it more obvious and simply decree that all must agree with you and kiss your ass exactly the way you like? :shrug:


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Like being here
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Loving every breath of you

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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7882501 - 01/15/08 10:19 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)

You obviously didn't get my point. At least your girl here kept on with the subject of what we were talking about here. but you, you choose to keep attacking me. Therefore, i'm only going to disregard everything you have to say unless it applies to the subject. I haven't broken any rules, oh god of the P&S forum!


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