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DMT an "escape pod" for the soul
    #7867072 - 01/11/08 10:12 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Just curious, not sure if anyone has written about this (most likely has) but was wondering what your thoughts were on DMT being an escape pod for the soul?

Since there is amounts of it in the human mind, when the physical body dies, the inner soul is released into the DMT void, which is nothing... and thus, left floating within it? I wrote a few pages on this a while back and will transcribe them when I get the chance...


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: indica]
    #7867087 - 01/11/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

This theory only works if the soul actually exists. :shrug:
Until now we don't know about it's certain existence so it's all speculation.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7867101 - 01/11/08 10:17 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)



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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: indica]
    #7867154 - 01/11/08 10:28 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Well then perhaps your thread is more appropriate for the M&P section :voila:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: indica]
    #7867241 - 01/11/08 10:51 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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xk3m_indica said:
Just curious, not sure if anyone has written about this (most likely has) but was wondering what your thoughts were on DMT being an escape pod for the soul?

Since there is amounts of it in the human mind, when the physical body dies, the inner soul is released into the DMT void, which is nothing... and thus, left floating within it? I wrote a few pages on this a while back and will transcribe them when I get the chance...




I spoke about this with some friends on a mushroom trip once. We wondered if, at death, the brain releases massive amounts of DMT. This could cause extreme time dilation, which could stretch into eternity. So the moment of your death would subjective last forever. It was an interesting thought at the time.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7867245 - 01/11/08 10:52 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

i personnaly have never tried DMT but have done a lot of reading on the substance and its history. also have an extraction recipe that i plan on following once i have the supplies and money to do so.
until then though i can only sit back and wait for the dmt to come to me


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7867549 - 01/12/08 12:35 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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jonathanseagull said:
I spoke about this with some friends on a mushroom trip once. We wondered if, at death, the brain releases massive amounts of DMT. This could cause extreme time dilation, which could stretch into eternity. So the moment of your death would subjective last forever. It was an interesting thought at the time.




at death the brain does release alot of dmt, happens at birth too. my theory is when the pineal gland is formed 49 days after the child is concieved, the soul enters the body, then during birth, the dmt kinda jump starts the soul, sparks conscienceness, and then at death dmt is used to allow the soul to leave the body.


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    #7868057 - 01/12/08 03:17 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: soulcircus]
    #7868472 - 01/12/08 09:35 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

i'd say there is alot more research that needs to be done figuring out why dmt is in the brain in the first place, when it came about evolutionarily.

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at death the brain does release alot of dmt, happens at birth too. my theory is when the pineal gland is formed 49 days after the child is concieved, the soul enters the body, then during birth, the dmt kinda jump starts the soul, sparks conscienceness, and then at death dmt is used to allow the soul to leave the body.




i could be wrong, but i'm going to assume that those statements are terribly wrong just because they're parroted based on one guy's speculation.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7868635 - 01/12/08 10:47 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

so does taking DMT recreationally seperate the soul from the body?
what if it gets lost? how does it find its way home?


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: indica]
    #7868658 - 01/12/08 10:55 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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xk3m_indica said:
Just curious, not sure if anyone has written about this (most likely has) but was wondering what your thoughts were on DMT being an escape pod for the soul?

Since there is amounts of it in the human mind, when the physical body dies, the inner soul is released into the DMT void, which is nothing... and thus, left floating within it? I wrote a few pages on this a while back and will transcribe them when I get the chance...




i think you mean to say brain, not mind, and it has not been proven that dmt is produced in/by the brain or pineal gland.

however, there are trace amounts of dmt in the blood. how it got there and what it's doing there, we haven't been able to find out.

i understand your use of the word soul, here, and tend to agree with you, although i don't really believe in a soul as much as i do energy

i am strongly inclined to believe that dmt is the mechanism for transference of energy when the physical body dies. and to say the 'dmt void' is nothing is a pretty bold statement.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: indica]
    #7868759 - 01/12/08 11:37 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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Since there is amounts of it in the human mind...




Sorry, but you are mistaken.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7869504 - 01/12/08 03:43 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

i beleive i read somewhere that DMT is the substance that causes your visual dreams also...

just throwing that out there


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: igwna]
    #7870797 - 01/12/08 08:33 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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skcorrelyt said:
so does taking DMT recreationally seperate the soul from the body?
what if it gets lost? how does it find its way home?




Thats what i have always wondered too...


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: indica]
    #7871188 - 01/12/08 10:03 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Someone DID write that book.

It is called DMT The Spirit Molecule... by Dr. Richard Strassman.

Great book... but his conclusions may disappoint you.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Rose]
    #7871496 - 01/12/08 11:16 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Rick Strassman.

An amazing book, painstakingly researched and honestly educational, containing a lot of the same theories mentioned here. It's got a lot of speculation, but the facts are clearly designated and separated (something many other books make you thankful for). And there's a lot of those too. You'll learn quite a bit about psychedelics by reading it; I think anybody who is interested in tripping (in general, not just on DMT) should go through it cover to cover.

I know there's a PDF of it floating around somewhere... I'll post it here when I find it.

edit: DMT: The Spirit Molecule, by Dr. Rick Strassman
Thanks and major props to maggotz for originally posting it.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Rose]
    #7871753 - 01/13/08 12:16 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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Great book... but his conclusions may disappoint you.




You mean it is grounded in reality and not some flight of soul confirmation?


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7871954 - 01/13/08 12:57 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

No... I mean...

Well, yeah... that is exactly what I meant.


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: Rose]
    #7871963 - 01/13/08 12:59 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Awwww... :frown:


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Re: DMT an "escape pod" for the soul [Re: indica]
    #7876128 - 01/13/08 10:12 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

One question, many people have mentioned the possibility of DMT being released by the brain when we die...but if this were true, what would happen to a person who dies via a sudden explosion of the head? If someone had a bomb, and literally blew someone's head (and brain) to pieces...how could the brain release the DMT to allow their soul to leave? The idea seems flawed...any thoughts?


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