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Plok
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California Medicinal Marijuana
#7866655 - 01/11/08 08:16 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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I have a bunch of hydro equipment that I spent a lot of money on. I wanted to grow weed legitimately.
I started growing a while ago but quit after a couple of months because I started reading about all of the people with medicinal licenses growing in CA that were still getting busted by the DEA and feds.
Although the California law protects your right to grow as a medical patient, the federal government does not give two shits.
Does anyone know to what degree this medical license would actually protect you in the event of getting raided? Would it carry any weight at all? Does it do any good at all with respect to growing (assuming you follow the rules)?
It seems like sometimes people get out free and clear and other times they're sent to jail for years. Not a lot of coherency...
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Re: California Medicinal Marijuana [Re: Plok]
#7866689 - 01/11/08 08:25 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Show me one case where a licensed patient in cali has been sentenced to jail by the feds where they weren't selling to others.
If its happened, I haven't heard about it.
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kristofer
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Re: California Medicinal Marijuana [Re: Plok]
#7866705 - 01/11/08 08:31 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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if you have a medical card there's a legal limit to how many you can grow depending on the county you live in. you can also be a caregiver and grow for someone else with a medical card.
edit: I worked on a farm raided by the feds.. no one was prosecuted, but a jeep and a lot of money were confiscated.
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Edited by kristofer (01/11/08 08:34 PM)
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johnm214



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Re: California Medicinal Marijuana [Re: kristofer]
#7866754 - 01/11/08 08:46 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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and again, kristofer, you were growing for more than one person?
selling to those who weren't living on the farm?
All these raids I've never heard the feds going after an individual for individual use. Not saying it hasn't happened, but I'd not be surprised if it hasn't happened.
original poster: california law will obviously not bear on the federal prosecution, but you'd likely get some consideration from most judges that you were in compliance w/ state law, but you'd still be subject to the same law, same conviction, just possible a less sever sentence.
As a practical matter, the DEA doesn't really raid small setups as they have no way of discovering them. If you make it obvious, and advertise, I'm sure they'd raid you- but you certainly would be far more safe with the permit.
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Phred
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Re: California Medicinal Marijuana (moved) [Re: Plok]
#7868308 - 01/12/08 08:19 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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This thread was moved from Political Discussion.
Reason: Better suited to Drug Policy Reform.
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Coaster
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Re: California Medicinal Marijuana (moved) [Re: Phred]
#7872279 - 01/13/08 03:04 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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with a med card u can legally grow plants but it depends how much ur gonna get harassed dempending on the county u live in ive heard court stories that lasted years in cali from plants its so fucking gay weed is only like psuedo legal here
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Re: California Medicinal Marijuana (moved) [Re: Coaster]
#7880657 - 01/14/08 09:58 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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not really...
you can't get the registration in some counties, currently, so that is the problem w/ the staties...
though you still have a medical necessity affirmative defense
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Plok
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Re: California Medicinal Marijuana (moved) [Re: johnm214]
#7888427 - 01/16/08 02:28 PM (16 years, 16 days ago) |
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I have met someone who had a very long legal battle with the government despite doing everything by the book and having enough permissions for each plant.
Here is the site I was referring to in the original post:
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?list=type&type=184
From http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=5251
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Americans for Safe Access (ASA) has compiled reports from nearly eight hundred patient encounters with local or state police during a period of more than two years. These reports show a glaring trend: more than 90% of all encounters result in medicine seizure by police regardless of any probable cause. According to reports received by ASA, rampant seizure of medical marijuana from qualified patients and primary caregivers has taken place in 53 of California's 58 counties. These violations of state law occur in both urban and rural locales, in the north as well as the south, and by both city and county law enforcement.
I also know people who have had their weed seized more than once (not growing, just possession) despite producing the medicinal card.
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