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Looking for something visual
    #7866139 - 01/11/08 05:35 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

So far in my experiences, LSD works best for visuals. I liked the lights/patterns versus body load balance. To get visuals from most natural enthogens, I need to take so much that I am overwhelmed by the restless fatigue of the drug's body load to do much of anything.

So, the question is which natural enthogen is the most visual without giving the heaviest body load? I guess the only major one I haven't tried yet is DMT. Have I saved the best for last?

Shrooms are great, but I feel like I just want to become a puddle or something. I need a jacuzzi.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: 04281969]
    #7872347 - 01/13/08 04:33 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

definitively DMT and perhaps salvia i would say....
but there may be some undiscovered natural substances out there which are more visual than the purest DMT  :pinkelephant:


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: 04281969]
    #7872351 - 01/13/08 04:38 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

DMT is very visual but intense so you'd have the body load thing going on there (but in a good way). It's a pleasant substance for the most part.

Try 2C-B or 2C-E too, they are fairly visual. (I know they're not natural though)


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: Robo]
    #7872361 - 01/13/08 04:48 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Maybe try mescaline?
fractals are nice


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7872945 - 01/13/08 11:09 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

2-ce is probably the most visual drug there is


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: 04281969]
    #7872946 - 01/13/08 11:11 AM (16 years, 19 days ago)

DMT visuals are unlike anything I've ever seen in the throes of any of my other psychedelic experiences. They have a quality of tangibility and reality that is astounding.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7873175 - 01/13/08 12:21 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

DMT really has not much "body load" to it. Except for the minor irritations one occasionally gets from smoking it. But other then that, it's pretty low key. Usually feels like you ran around the block a few times after you come out of it, lol Increased blood pressure and heartrate.

But if you want the most visual experience ever, DMT is where it's at. 100% hallucination when you breakthrough. No couch, no bed, no room anymore. Totally enveloped in the visuals.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: enesi]
    #7873189 - 01/13/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I got stuck to my couch the first time I did it lol if that counts for bodyload :hehehe:


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: Robo]
    #7873207 - 01/13/08 12:34 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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Omni said:
I got stuck to my couch the first time I did it lol if that counts for bodyload :hehehe:



lol, yea it's like that. Don't expect to be up walking around during a high dose, lol.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: enesi]
    #7873603 - 01/13/08 02:28 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Actually, I am thinking a mix of mescaline and psilocybin is pretty groovy. Mescaline just feels so warm and happy, but before it gets to be too much of a heavy blanket, the shrooms give it that thinner, more up, laugh-happy angle to it. Even though the body load is there, it's much more enjoyable to go to higher doses. I think I can get there from here.
...At least, this is my most recent quest!


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: 04281969]
    #7873960 - 01/13/08 03:47 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Dude I think that's an awesome idea.

It's something I've always wanted to try.

I'd take the cactus(or mescaline) about an hour before the shrooms.

Or maybe take them at the same time, so it hits you in waves.


One experience which I'm really looking forward to is-

1oz of Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea)
1oz of Scared Lotus (Nelumbo nucifera)
One thick 12in T. peruvanius (peeled and dried)
2g of strong mushrooms

All this will be split between two people.

The lotus will be made into a tea.

The cactus and shrooms will be eaten staight.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7874033 - 01/13/08 04:01 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I have to say that it really is quite good.
Perhaps the closest thing to an LSD experience I've gotten from natural chemicals.
Next time, more. And the tea one hour after taking the mescaline.

But, if you're looking for a supreme quality trip, then this really is something you should treat yourself to. No kidding. It's groovy.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: 04281969]
    #7874361 - 01/13/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

2c-e's visuals aren't any better than acid or shrooms in my opinion.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: g00ru]
    #7874865 - 01/13/08 06:50 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

It's a great combo, but you had better pack a lunch. The mescaline takes the mushroom trip and ssttrreettcchhes it forever. And a day. And another. It would be great for an all-day festival or something like that.

It was great, though. They seem to compliment and compound all of their positives, but none of their negatives. Stress level was always very low. It got really dreamy at times, but it wasn't ever too tense. It just seems to last forever.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: 04281969]
    #7874938 - 01/13/08 07:03 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

DMT and LSD are very visual drugs...


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: 2859558484]
    #7874945 - 01/13/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

A fat bag of mushrooms will get you seeing plenty, Ive also for some reason had some weird visuals on Ketamine. Of course Acid will kick your ass also.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: DontPlay]
    #7875178 - 01/13/08 07:41 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

I just haven't even heard the letters L, S, and D spoken together since I moved to the sticks.

But, I think I'll try DMT some time in the future. I just don't like the thought of nausea of drinking it, or the !ZOWIE! of smoking it.


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Re: Looking for something visual [Re: 04281969]
    #7875259 - 01/13/08 07:52 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

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04281969 said:
I just haven't even heard the letters L, S, and D spoken together since I moved to the sticks. 

But, I think I'll try DMT some time in the future.  I just don't like the thought of nausea of drinking it, or the !ZOWIE! of smoking it.



do it orally. extracted dmt, in a gelcap. take some syrian rue..it's the sweetness :wink:

nothing beats taking 2 or 3 tokes though...you will be for the ride of your life my friend :wink:


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