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Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch
    #7866000 - 01/11/08 05:09 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I was wondering how long one could store dried Peruvian torch chips before they start losing their potency. Would turning the chips into a powder and putting them into capsules be better? Thanks.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: iseeyou]
    #7866097 - 01/11/08 05:27 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I was wondering the same thing about the shelf life... personally i think choking down a glass of cactus juice would be better on the stomach than a crap load of capsules. but i would like to hear other people opinions first


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: danlennon3]
    #7866182 - 01/11/08 05:44 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

It would be better to leave them as they are (less surface area exposed to the air), and put their air tight jar some place cool and dark.

They should be good for at least a year, no problem.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: danlennon3]
    #7866193 - 01/11/08 05:49 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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danlennon3 said:
I was wondering the same thing about the shelf life... personally i think choking down a glass of cactus juice would be better on the stomach than a crap load of capsules. but i would like to hear other people opinions first




I've had tea a couple, three times.
Never puked on cactus.
But, I've never choked down 40 capsules and let them expand into a goo in my stomach either.

Save the capsules for after you finish a mescaline extract.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: 04281969]
    #7866500 - 01/11/08 07:29 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

So... it should be good for at least six months, if stored properly, right?

I've tasted what cactus is like, but I've never really had an experience. I couldn't imagine downing enough cactus juice for a real trip. Pills seem easy to me. I'll probably eat a light snack with them, and I'm considering taking a dramamine too.

Hopefully tomorrow will be my first real experience off of 35 grams of Peruvian Torch. I'd like to save the rest for when I have time off from school, so like spring break or summer vacation.

Maybe I'll update with a trip report tomorrow. or at least update on how the capsules go.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: iseeyou]
    #7866537 - 01/11/08 07:44 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

If you can keep that stuff down, then more power to you.
It certainly would be less trouble than simmering for 2 hours.

Does anyone remember that "slime" stuff that came in a garbage can? It smelled wet and felt real cold. Kind of a stupid toy if you think about it. But, I really wouldn't want to have that stuff coming out of my mouth.

Good luck with it, though.
Let us know how it went.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: 04281969]
    #7867234 - 01/11/08 10:48 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

ugh, just imagine all those cow/horse or whatever your ingesting with those geletin caps, in my experience it makes my stomach feel like shit.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #7867331 - 01/11/08 11:22 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Mescaline is very stable.

I heard it keeps for a really, really long time, years even.

But I can't confirm this.

Does anybody know for sure?


BTW if you brew from dried chips you don't get a slime, you get a tea like brew.

You can also eat the dried chips staight, just swallow them.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7869677 - 01/12/08 04:29 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

Ha! Sounds like you need to try adding water to powdered chips and seeing what you get.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: 04281969]
    #7869732 - 01/12/08 04:42 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

You don't have to.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7873267 - 01/13/08 12:51 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

You don't have to what?
I've done it. It rehydrates right back to ground mush as if you were cooking fresh. Then it breaks down to 10W-30 after about 2 hours.

Try making mescaline.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: 04281969]
    #7874987 - 01/13/08 07:11 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Okay. Trip was amazing, but even though I took a dramamine, I threw up. :-( Swallowing 50 pills wasn't too bad. Maybe the last ten were a bit hard, but I know it's no where as bad as drinking cactus juice.

Oh... and the gel caps were vegetarian. So I didn't consume any cows or horses.

I'm going to have to try to due some kind of extraction next time, or at least make some kind of concentrate. All that cactus material is no good of the stomach.


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: iseeyou]
    #7876098 - 01/13/08 10:05 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

ha should have went with the juice, it's quite good to me san pedro juice anyway just chug it and don't think about it :smile:


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Re: Shelf life of dried cactus? San Pedro/Peruvian Torch [Re: peyoter14]
    #7876169 - 01/13/08 10:19 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

Is it easy for the taste buds and stomach to handle if one were you take the dried cactus (green tissue only) and blend it with water and honey?


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Citic Acid [Re: felix4life]
    #28478386 - 09/22/23 07:08 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

I don't know why this isn't more widely known, but if you add CITRIC ACID to the boil of cactus, you only have to boil it for like 20-40 minutes... no more 8 hours boiling sessions...

If you have say cactus = 1gram alkaloid + 1 gram Citric Acid
add equal amount of Citric Acid to the Distilled Water...

and a small portion will turn into the more potent Citrate form rather than the Carbonate form it does when it hits the open air.

I've been doing this for like 30 years, I no longer boil them, but here's some beginner tips...


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