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shaggydogman
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Hpoo water in PF Tek cakes?
#7865518 - 01/11/08 03:21 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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I make mainly pf tek cakes, that get crumbled and spawned 4:1 to hpoo. I dry and shred field leeched hpoo over the summer and then hydrate it with an overnight soak when I'm gonna use it. The water that I drain / squeeze out of it looks like it has a lot of good nutes that I could use to hydrate the verm for my cakes.
My cakes are all PC'd, I hear the Hpoo water is good for roses. Anyone used Hpoo water for PF Tek cakes?
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Re: Hpoo water in PF Tek cakes? [Re: shaggydogman]
#7865630 - 01/11/08 03:54 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Remember that what is a nutrient for plants isn't for a shroom. Plants like easily soluble salts, mycelium likes complex molecules to break down for energy.
I don't doubt it will be more nutritive than plain water but it doubt it is super nutritive.
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Re: Hpoo water in PF Tek cakes? [Re: Nibin]
#7865680 - 01/11/08 04:07 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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well hell why dont you give it a try i for 1 would like to see how it somes out. but like he said chances are it wont improve it too much. lets see
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shaggydogman
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Re: Hpoo water in PF Tek cakes? [Re: wikedferret]
#7865800 - 01/11/08 04:32 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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I will next time. I'm not due to start another batch for a good few weeks yet. I might just do a couple of jars one with one without for a quick experiment. The other thread about possible nutrients in verm made me think about it.
Why not soak your verm in a nutrient rich water before making your cakes? So does myc prefers solids??? So far as complex molecules go, got any thoughts on possible water soluble complex molecules? Like a body builders protein shake for cakes that you add to the water you mix into your verm? Body building, hmmmm, I wonder if creatine would help em build up!!! 
I'm really thinking easy additives to water that could give a cake a boost...
If it's all about BE then I don't think we're gonna beat brf. But if a varied diet helps well...I mean they must be getting really bored of rice!! I am!!!
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Re: Hpoo water in PF Tek cakes? [Re: shaggydogman]
#7865822 - 01/11/08 04:36 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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What about the agar ingredients. Potato water, malt extract. Maybe a few spoonfuls of malt extract metled into some potato water?
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Re: Hpoo water in PF Tek cakes? [Re: Nibin]
#7865858 - 01/11/08 04:42 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Nibin said: Remember that what is a nutrient for plants isn't for a shroom. Plants like easily soluble salts, mycelium likes complex molecules to break down for energy.
I don't doubt it will be more nutritive than plain water but it doubt it is super nutritive.
As soon as I seen the question I remembered you talking about this the other day.
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Re: Hpoo water in PF Tek cakes? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
#7865982 - 01/11/08 05:06 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Quote:
MYSTIQUE said:
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Nibin said: Remember that what is a nutrient for plants isn't for a shroom. Plants like easily soluble salts, mycelium likes complex molecules to break down for energy.
I don't doubt it will be more nutritive than plain water but it doubt it is super nutritive.
As soon as I seen the question I remembered you talking about this the other day.
Did you think of me as Nibin or as Kramer dude? lol
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Re: Hpoo water in PF Tek cakes? [Re: Nibin]
#7873033 - 01/13/08 11:37 AM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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Quote:
Nibin said: Remember that what is a nutrient for plants isn't for a shroom. Plants like easily soluble salts, mycelium likes complex molecules to break down for energy.
I don't doubt it will be more nutritive than plain water but it doubt it is super nutritive.
I agree Nibin, I'm more thinking along the lines of a Nitrogen boost with the Poo water.
RR also suggests adding coffee to grain soak water for 'vigor' It can also be added to PF Tek cakes, in the same manner as I suggest adding Poo water. RR mentions it here and more info couple of posts below. Was wondering really if anyone had tried it and with hpoo rinse water, rather than coffee (as I pretty much always throw it away). This also led me to consider Potato water (like when making potato dextrose agar), but I think this may be better for bacteria than fungus?
So before I experiment anyone have any thoughts of the following alternative waters for PF Tek cakes. I'm really considering simple additives for faster colonization.
1. PF Tek cake mixed with half strength coffee rather than water 2. PF Tek cake mixed with hpoo rinse water rather than water (possibly too variable in Nitrogen, too much N is ) 3. PF Tek cake mixed with potato water (like when making PDA)
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