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ID Request
    #7865033 - 01/11/08 01:26 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Can somebody help me ID these mushrooms, i found them again while
walking my dog :smile:.

Habitat - found in grass

Gills - greyish brown?


stem - about 1-2 inchs

cap - .5 to 1 inch brown in color.


bruising - dark brown to blackish.


location - southern california.


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Re: ID Request [Re: sparkymcjay]
    #7865057 - 01/11/08 01:31 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I think those are Panaeolus subbalteatus, a mildly active species. To separate them from the common look-a-like, Panaeolina foenisecii, you will NEED to do a spore print.

"Subbs" have a jet black spore print.
"Foes" have a dark brown spore print.



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Re: ID Request [Re: CureCat]
    #7865079 - 01/11/08 01:36 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

thanks for the fast reply im getting a print as we speak, hope they are subbs :laugh:


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Re: ID Request [Re: sparkymcjay]
    #7865160 - 01/11/08 01:53 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

leave them to print for 6-12 hrs, so the prints are dark enough to distinguish brown from black.


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Re: ID Request [Re: sparkymcjay]
    #7865516 - 01/11/08 03:20 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

mostly foes, not enough for a delicious meal anyways < too small > .


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Re: ID Request [Re: Evets]
    #7865811 - 01/11/08 04:34 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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mostly foes, not enough for a delicious meal anyways < too small > .




I don't see any foes in those pictures. They all look like subbalteatus to me. Nice find man, where are you.


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Re: ID Request [Re: Evets]
    #7866852 - 01/11/08 09:17 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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Evets said:
mostly foes, not enough for a delicious meal anyways < too small > .



First off, I think we should wait for a spore print before concluding the species. Southern CA has a lot of subbs and a lot of foes.
Secondly, they are not delicious. I have eaten both. One is psychoactive, the other is only gross.


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Re: ID Request [Re: CureCat]
    #7866996 - 01/11/08 09:57 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

well after taking a peek at the print, it is not jet black. but it is quite a bit darker then the ones in the pic that you posted,and i dont have the camera anymore to post a picture of the print :frown:


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Re: ID Request [Re: sparkymcjay]
    #7867066 - 01/11/08 10:11 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Well, if it is not black, then it is Panaeolina foenisecii.  If you are unsure, check the bases for any bluing.  Do not crush the bases, bruising does not apply to P. subbalteatus, any bluing will be most evident if handled gently.

Anyway, you're on the right track.  Keep checking well fertilized lawns, esp if you see newly laid squares of grass- those are killer for subbs.  I'm from San Diego, and subbs are everywhere down there.  :smile:


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Re: ID Request [Re: CureCat]
    #7867166 - 01/11/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

the bases of the stem? cause there isnt any bluing there, they just have gotten much smaller but still have the same color.


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Re: ID Request [Re: sparkymcjay]
    #7867292 - 01/11/08 11:09 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

damn, guess I jumped to conclusions too fast.


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Re: ID Request [Re: sparkymcjay]
    #7867942 - 01/12/08 02:06 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

The bluing is often absent of extremely subtle with Subbs. Sounds like they're drying up. Keep looking in the habitat i mentioned above, and make ID request and do spore prints to separate the two species. I'm sure you'll find subbs. They're prolific.


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