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krin
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: krin]
#7866317 - 01/11/08 06:24 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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oh and to answer your initial question, I have no FREAKIN CLUE what thoughts and voices really are, or what thier doing, where they are going, what they are forming, holographic, inverted imaginastic, whacktastic they just crawling through the many dimensions of absurdity
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: krin]
#7866389 - 01/11/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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From a shamanic perspective, the voices you hear on a shroom trip can be your higher self communicating with you (Our individual essence that resides in the next dimension) this is why sometimes the things it tells you seem so familiar as if you had always known but had forgotten. Other voices can be your spirit guides trying to heal you and impart wisdom to help you grow spiritually. The shroom has a voice but not everyone listens, it depends whether you wanted to trip to learn something or just have a laugh.
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: CaptBeefheart]
#7866433 - 01/11/08 06:58 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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All through life I have felt that I was witnessing my life occur below me, as if I am viewing this body's life from a back-row seat. I have come to believe this is because there are a few fundamental parts of our existence, which by my definitions are the brain, subconscious mind, and conscious mind. The brain collects and stores the electrical signals sent to it by the reaction of environmental stimuli - the conscious mind receives and mixes these signals all at once, turning them into this experience of physical reality - and our subconscious mind is our link to the other dimension(s), which stores your memories in the collective informational record of the universe's experiences and gives your consciousness subtle feedback through dreams and waking subconscious thoughts.
While the conscious mind is experiencing what its body is being put through, the subconscious is existing in a kind of timeless stasis, where it is able to receive, store, and interpret all the things about our physical existence. It is a formless library of information, which is much more expansive and accurate than our physical "memory storage facility"(kudos dreamcatcher). The subconscious can "view" events that the conscious mind is witnessing and responding to. Simultaneously, it is sending relative information based on past experiences, and also building a prediction of what could happen - or what the conscious mind should do, as I believe this is where the conscience is.
Perhaps it really is like this - perhaps each of our individual conscious ego nuggets is just a speck of awareness floating through the inter-dimensional cosmos, going through an eternal life cycle that alternates from physical existences and non-physical existences. Or maybe it starts in the physical realm, as a starter course of consciousness. Whatever physical vessel happens to be infused with your "soul" is random - the pieces fall where they need to, to maintain a perfect balance of consistency.
I dunno - but what is more fun to speculate about than death?
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: future]
#7866440 - 01/11/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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future said: It is the god within you
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: clover606]
#7866469 - 01/11/08 07:18 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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this thread reminds me of an old saying.... I'm a schitzo and so am I
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: krin]
#7866539 - 01/11/08 07:46 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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i know exactly what you mean i dont hear voices but if you tune in the plant or chemichal will bring thoughts to you like telepethy its why shamans have used enteogens for thousands of years if it is your subconcious it shure knew alot of things i could have never known but who knows your mind is an extremely complex thing but like under aya for instense i feel the presence of something greater than myself but am at the same time apart of.
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redgreenvines
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if you didn't ever hear voices in your head there would be something wrong with your circuitry. it is normal and it is mostly suppressed or processed over. memory is the source of these voices. synthetic memory is also a source. really maniacle synthetic memory is the stuff that insanity brings, and that usually means you have to talk to somebody, who is not in your head (like a shrink), or stop using so much.
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krin
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Manyc, It is very refreshing to hear mentalities such as yours.
Breaking the felt experience of existence through a sensory and psychic aperture in mindspace (to give it a random title) into categories like "conscious" and "subconscious" can be quite ludicrous, we all know our experience is so diversified amoungst eachother, the vectors of our consciousness always at new positions percieving and expressing new dimensions, however, these so inaccurate, horrendously oversimplified and generalized terms like "subconscious" and "conscious" become somehow necessary, it is the the first tangible resource for humanity and conscious being to build a foundation on for a new overall psychic awareness, as a social whole. But only if these terms are continually expanded into a systematically more complex framework for communicating the subtle nuances of cognitive,psychic,mental,emotional,psychedelic activity.
THere needs to be made a sensitive matrix of concepts concerning mind, that is under perpetual construction and change. THis model would be an interesting tool
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krin
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: krin]
#7867075 - 01/11/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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oh i really am that stoned
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g00ru
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: krin]
#7867300 - 01/11/08 11:11 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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I don't see how you could never hear voices. Imagine your friend talking. Do you in no way 'hear' your friend? If you don't, it seems like your imagination would be very restricted. It's equivalent to seeing things with your minds eye. I don't know how it works, but I actually can SEE it, and when a thoughts is vocalized in your head, it's almost like you actually can HEAR it.
Shizophrenic voices would, I assume, sound like true external auditory hallucinations.
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RedRainDrop
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: krin]
#7874607 - 01/13/08 05:59 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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What you haven't learned yet is that, it is our internal voice, but it is also the voice of a higher being, that we are all a part of.... hard to explain..:P
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VisualLearner
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: RedRainDrop]
#7875627 - 01/13/08 08:45 PM (16 years, 19 days ago) |
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What you haven't learned yet is that, it is our internal voice, but it is also the voice of a higher being, that we are all a part of.... hard to explain..:P
I get what you are saying. Is there some information you know of that would explain it more?
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: VisualLearner]
#7878930 - 01/14/08 03:55 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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If you're seriously attaching a deep significance and meaning to these events involving "voices", then I'd be quite worried that you may be becoming psychotic.
Sorry, I know that it's not what you want to hear, but maybe it's worth laying off the substances for a good while and making sure you can give yourself time to think about this in a proper sober state?
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: krin]
#7879628 - 01/14/08 06:20 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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its all in your head man.
isn't it fun to be insane to a lesser or more degree than everyone else?
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: SlashOZ]
#7880038 - 01/14/08 07:31 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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they could be coming from outside of you, but if so, then they might not have pure motives or be very wise (a trap some fall in is to listen to them and assume they are giving wisdom, but you really don't know who they are)
Edited by sleepy (01/14/08 07:48 PM)
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monkeybus
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: sleepy]
#7880208 - 01/14/08 08:01 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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In certain locations, at particular junctures of history, you would be venerated as a seer/sage/prophet.
I refer you to Jesus, Mohammed, Moses, that geezer who started the Mormon church, William Blake, et al.
On another note, I also refer you to Syd Barratt, Peter Green, Charlie Manson.
Look after yourself.
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: VisualLearner]
#7880275 - 01/14/08 08:14 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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VisualLearner said: thats what i needed to hear. Now I will channel these 'voices' more and experiment with them...thank you
sound like you are taking what someone says and taking it to be TRUE because you want it to be. think of the possibilities, you don't know who this voices are. its a dangerous path your walking. better to ask god for protection, and if you really want some authentic spiritual knowledge, find a Guru who will protect/guide you. do not mess up your life by listening to voices. i'm not saying be afraid of them, but listening to voices is a bad way to get wisdom. they can really lead you down the wrong path, many people have fallen in that trap.
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: sleepy]
#7880532 - 01/14/08 09:23 PM (16 years, 18 days ago) |
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^I have gotten good at weeding out bad spiritual knowledge on trips... also with the help of my cats protection
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: RedRainDrop]
#7882147 - 01/15/08 08:20 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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Re: Is there a voice talking to me? [Re: sleepy]
#7882384 - 01/15/08 09:44 AM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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sleepy said:
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VisualLearner said: thats what i needed to hear. Now I will channel these 'voices' more and experiment with them...thank you
sound like you are taking what someone says and taking it to be TRUE because you want it to be. think of the possibilities, you don't know who this voices are. its a dangerous path your walking. better to ask god for protection, and if you really want some authentic spiritual knowledge, find a Guru who will protect/guide you. do not mess up your life by listening to voices. i'm not saying be afraid of them, but listening to voices is a bad way to get wisdom. they can really lead you down the wrong path, many people have fallen in that trap.
This is true. While the first few times we "communicated" were extremely enlightening beyoned what words can do justice, the last few they put me in harms way.
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