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satyr
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want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew
#7864265 - 01/11/08 10:18 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Well, Ive been considering adding syrian rue to an ayahuasca brew. Ive tried caapi before, but could never keep it down long enough for the maoi to take effect. what im hoping to accomplish is to use maybe about 20-30 grams caapi, instead of 40 as i did last time, and make up for the missing maoi by adding rue to the mix. Does anyone have any experience using both? How much rue should use? Ive used 3 grams rue in previous brews alone, and it was plenty of maoi inhibition.
By the way, Im using yellow caapi.
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truffleupagus



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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: satyr]
#7864406 - 01/11/08 10:52 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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If you're using rue in combination with that much caapi then I wouldn't use any more than a gram or so probably.
Also, if you want to have a purge free ayahuasca experience I've found that this can be accomplished pretty easily by just brushing your teeth immediately after ingesting the brew. This could end up being something to regret doing though so I would advise using a not very potent brew if you're going to do this. Of course, you have to have a pretty strong stomach too if you're going to avoid the purge. But I find that anything you can do to get the taste out of your mouth helps a lot. My next time though I think I'm not going to do that. The purge can be a very good thing.
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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: truffleupagus]
#7864445 - 01/11/08 11:03 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Why?
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truffleupagus



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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: FarFromHere]
#7864480 - 01/11/08 11:13 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Why what?
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truffleupagus



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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: truffleupagus]
#7864545 - 01/11/08 11:24 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Honestly satyr, if you're looking to postpone the purge a little bit more it might not be a good idea to combine more things in the brew.
I might just try the 20-30 grams of caapi (without any rue) and see how you do with that first.
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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: truffleupagus]
#7864986 - 01/11/08 01:08 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Why would you wanna add rue?
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satyr
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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: FarFromHere]
#7865266 - 01/11/08 02:18 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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well i plan on adding rue because im sacrificing about half of the amount of caapi, and am trying to make up for the loss of maoi. and im not really trying to avoid the purge, i actually enjoy that part. im just trying to postpone it for longer, when i drink the caapi, i can only keep it down for less than 10 min. truffleupagus, i think i might try what you advised the first time, just add about a gram of rue. The rue itself has never given me any stomach pains or purging, so it shouldnt be a big deal.Well, only one way to find out
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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: satyr]
#7865418 - 01/11/08 02:53 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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i tend to use rue and caapi at the same time often or initiaion of people i have em eat about 1.5g of rue before drinking the brew. and i have 2g of rue in the brew
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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: satyr]
#7865633 - 01/11/08 03:55 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Instead of using both, why not only use the rue? It should achieve the desired effect with respect to delaying the purge till after you've consumed DMT.
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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: EllisDSox]
#7865664 - 01/11/08 04:02 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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well caapi has its own feel and adds something differnt thats why i use it too
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satyr
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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
#7866110 - 01/11/08 05:30 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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well, after doing alot of research and pondering, ive decided to use 50 grams caapi, and 3 grams syrian rue. My original plan was to cut down on caapi, but after further reading ive decided to first consume the rue, wait an hour, and then consume the caapi, and when the purge is over, then consume the mimosa.
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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: satyr]
#7866573 - 01/11/08 07:56 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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I wonder what it would be like to use an ultrasonic toothbrush while peaking. I bet it would trip out the native Shipibo's if you whipped one out and started buzzing away. Sorry. Nevermind.
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Re: want to add syrian rue to ayahuasca brew [Re: 04281969]
#7868831 - 01/12/08 12:03 PM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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probally lol
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