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so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob?
    #7862415 - 01/10/08 10:52 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

after so many trips or what?


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
    #7862421 - 01/10/08 10:53 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

when you no longer have to ask if you're considered a psychedelic noob


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7862445 - 01/10/08 10:58 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

lol fair enough


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
    #7862486 - 01/10/08 11:04 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I'd say after your first psychedelic experiance? :confused:


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
    #7862561 - 01/10/08 11:12 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

When you feel you're ready to experience any new psychedelic without hesitation?


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: Acyl]
    #7862590 - 01/10/08 11:16 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Ego loss? :P that might be a bit much.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7862719 - 01/10/08 11:32 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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when you no longer have to ask if you're considered a psychedelic noob


Yep thats when.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: BoulderBoomer]
    #7862725 - 01/10/08 11:33 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I know dub thee Sir-Not-A-Psychedelic-Noob. When you get knighted is when u kno 4sho


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: learningtofly]
    #7864809 - 01/11/08 12:28 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

in order to no longer be a psychedelic newb you have to drop 10 hits of acid, smoke 2 joints, eat 7 grams of mushrooms and 5 tabs of e all at the same time. and then after that you have to go play nicky nicky nine doors at 3 A.M. while proclaiming that you believe in the tooth fairy. then yoda will appear to you and give you a magic hat that you can wear so that other non psychedelic newbs can see that your not a newb.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: Acyl]
    #7864858 - 01/11/08 12:38 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I think being ready to approach ANY psychedelic experience without hesitation would be the sign of being a noob no? If you offered me DMT randomly in high school I would have smoked it then and there.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: es_f1]
    #7864860 - 01/11/08 12:38 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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in order to no longer be a psychedelic newb you have to drop 10 hits of acid, smoke 2 joints, eat 7 grams of mushrooms and 5 tabs of e all at the same time. and then after that you have to go play nicky nicky nine doors at 3 A.M. while proclaiming that you believe in the tooth fairy. then yoda will appear to you and give you a magic hat that you can wear so that other non psychedelic newbs can see that your not a newb.




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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: Molasses]
    #7864909 - 01/11/08 12:51 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I believe having the respect and responsibility to take such substances shows that you are not a noob. I believe it's pretty noobish to take drugs without research. I believe after your first experience and the respect for psychedelics you gain from it is all you need. Showing the concern for oneself to research the substance before hand is the first step. There's plenty of people I know who do lots of drugs however I consider these people noobs cause of things like, "lsd stays in your body forever.."


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: THEBats]
    #7864939 - 01/11/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

After you've had a moderate trip off of three of the following-

Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea) and/or Scared Lotus (Nelumbo nucifera)
Cannabis sativa
Argyreia Nervosa, Ipomoea violacea, or Turbina corymbosa
Silene capensis
Salvia divinorum
Amanita Muscaria properly prepared as "Haoma"
Psilocybin Mushrooms
Trichoceros species or Peyote (Lophophora williamsii)
Ayahuasca= B. Caapi, Psychotria v., Diplopterys c.
Tabernatnthe Iboga
LSD-25
Any other powerful Entheogen



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I believe having the respect and responsibility to take such substances shows that you are not a noob. I believe it's pretty noobish to take drugs without research. I believe after your first experience and the respect for psychedelics you gain from it is all you need. Showing the concern for oneself to research the substance before hand is the first step. There's plenty of people I know who do lots of drugs however I consider these people noobs cause of things like, "lsd stays in your body forever.."





I also agree with this.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7864963 - 01/11/08 01:03 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Once you finally talk to Jesus.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: jellyfish]
    #7865202 - 01/11/08 02:03 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

IMO... its when you can control the trip. When it starts to get weird/freaky/bad and you can overcome that mental anguish, I'd say you've become experienced to some degree


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: cappincrunk]
    #7865219 - 01/11/08 02:07 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

when you are able to answer questions, instead of just asking them.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: enesi]
    #7865344 - 01/11/08 02:35 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

When you've got the experience that you just say to yourself: I am still a psychedelic noob I know nothing of this.

Then you are not.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: Justice_Fish]
    #7865363 - 01/11/08 02:40 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

i was gunna say when you dont have to ask this question, but someone beat me to it.

but really whats so bad about being a noob, im a noob i think, ive got a lot of learning and exploring to do, and im excited to do it.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: clover606]
    #7865437 - 01/11/08 02:59 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Once you realize that weather or not you are a noob is entirely not the point.

And I don't think it's fair to say that you shouldn't have any fear of a new substance, or even an old one.  I just did DMT for the first time and I'm terrified to touch it again, even though I had a great experience.  Of course I'll smoke it many more times but thats not the point :cool:


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: g00ru]
    #7865445 - 01/11/08 03:00 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Ego death.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: g00ru]
    #7865482 - 01/11/08 03:12 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

i think we never cease to be psychedelic noobs because there is always more distance to travel. many sophists claimed to be wise in ancient greece, so socrates sought them all and questioned them. he quickly found out they thought they were wise, but knew nothing. he finally came to the conclusion that all these supposedly wise men were not wise, and that he was wiser insofar he acknowledged that he knew he was not wise. point being, socrates recognized that the pursuit of wisdom is a life-long pursuit and never actually attainable.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
    #7865501 - 01/11/08 03:17 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

The relationship between psychedelics and any individual, in my opinion, is like the relationship between teacher and student. There is always more to learn and more to see. There simply isnt' a point where one has seen it all.

Labelling yourself anything because you can or can't take lots of psychedelics doesn't help anyone. Some people are more experienced than others, but at the end of the day everyone could still learn more and travel further.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7865512 - 01/11/08 03:19 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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The relationship between psychedelics and any individual, in my opinion, is like the relationship between teacher and student. There is always more to learn and more to see. There simply isnt' a point where one has seen it all.

Labelling yourself anything because you can or can't take lots of psychedelics doesn't help anyone. Some people are more experienced than others, but at the end of the day everyone could still learn more and travel further.




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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7865968 - 01/11/08 05:04 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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when you no longer have to ask if you're considered a psychedelic noob




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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: EllisDSox]
    #7865975 - 01/11/08 05:05 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

EllisDSox said:
The relationship between psychedelics and any individual, in my opinion, is like the relationship between teacher and student. There is always more to learn and more to see. There simply isnt' a point where one has seen it all.

Labelling yourself anything because you can or can't take lots of psychedelics doesn't help anyone. Some people are more experienced than others, but at the end of the day everyone could still learn more and travel further.




too bad I despise all my teachers and they can't teach anything for their lives.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: Serdal]
    #7866251 - 01/11/08 06:09 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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EllisDSox said:
The relationship between psychedelics and any individual, in my opinion, is like the relationship between teacher and student. There is always more to learn and more to see. There simply isnt' a point where one has seen it all.

Labelling yourself anything because you can or can't take lots of psychedelics doesn't help anyone. Some people are more experienced than others, but at the end of the day everyone could still learn more and travel further.




too bad I despise all my teachers and they can't teach anything for their lives.



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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7866413 - 01/11/08 06:48 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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After you've had a moderate trip off of three of the following-

Blue Lotus (Nymphaea caerulea) and/or Scared Lotus (Nelumbo nucifera)




You're a psychedelic noob when you think lotus makes you trip.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #7866478 - 01/11/08 07:21 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Well we just had another topic here on the shroomery about a 26 year old teacher having sex with a 14 year old student...I won't think I want my ethnogens touching me in that way :wink:


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: wiggles]
    #7866542 - 01/11/08 07:48 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I agree with acyl once you are ready to try any psychedelic without hesitation than you shouldn't be considered a noob. Also when you understand the power behind them you will truly be enlightened.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: Serdal]
    #7866565 - 01/11/08 07:54 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Surprisingly enough, I didn't mean a school teacher.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
    #7866650 - 01/11/08 08:14 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

When you've experienced enough trips of different intensities that you have a handle on what to expect the next time around.
Next time you take some blotter, for example, you will be able to say: "Yes, this was good acid" or "Shit, that wasn't acid at all".


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: wiggles]
    #7867193 - 01/11/08 10:36 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I think ego death is a big milestone in every psychonaut's journeys.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7867215 - 01/11/08 10:41 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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You're a psychedelic noob when you think lotus makes you trip.





It's so subtle, being able to trip off of it shows you have a quiet mind and are senestive to psychoactives.

I love Lotus and I think it's a true Entheogen.


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I agree with acyl once you are ready to try any psychedelic without hesitation than you shouldn't be considered a noob.




You should always have a healthy fear of Ayahuasca, Brugmansia, Iboga and many more.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7867231 - 01/11/08 10:46 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Is it possible to not be a noob?  Even if you create your own tryptamines or phenethylamines, you're still a noob, you haven't tried them, and each is a new experience.


I may be wrong.  :laugh:


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7867235 - 01/11/08 10:48 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

10. You are no longer a noob when you have a breakthrough. If you say well whats a breakthrough. Then your a noob.

9. You know off hand how to make ayahuasca.

8. At least attempted 3 different psychedelic drugs

7. When all your stories begin with "remember that time we were tripping"

6. If you've had at least one bad the trip.

5. You've Survived the wrath of a 650mg Dramamine intake

4. You cant remember how many times you have tripped.

3. Mother Fucking Green Goblins tell you

2. You can emotionally handle 7 grams dried cubensis.

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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: highc]
    #7867341 - 01/11/08 11:24 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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You've Survived the wrath of a 650mg Dramamine intake





You've eaten a whole Brugmansia flower.:eek:


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7867569 - 01/12/08 12:38 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

When you can talk to the cops while tripping on a moderate dose without them having the slightest idea.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7867578 - 01/12/08 12:39 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

whats a psychedelic noob?


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: dtugg]
    #7867590 - 01/12/08 12:41 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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When you can talk to the cops while tripping on a moderate dose without them having the slightest idea.




I think they would have some idea that you're on something after seeing how dialated your pupils are.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7867623 - 01/12/08 12:47 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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I think ego death is a big milestone in every psychonaut's journeys.




I think "ego death" like "breaking through" on either salvia and DMT, these ideas...I feel that they often actually end up misleading the inexperienced tripper. They prep the tripper with the idea of looking for something, with the idea of getting to a certain somewhere.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: DontPlay]
    #7867707 - 01/12/08 01:08 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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once you are ready to try any psychedelic without hesitation than you shouldn't be considered a noob.




How does this make a person experienced? Anyone can make the decision to put chemicals into their brain. In reality, it's the opposite. It takes someone with experience to respect these substances for what they are.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: Sell Your Soul]
    #7867806 - 01/12/08 01:30 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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When you can talk to the cops while tripping on a moderate dose without them having the slightest idea.




I think they would have some idea that you're on something after seeing how dialated your pupils are.




If you have really dark eyes like I do the chances of them noticing are pretty small.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: DontPlay]
    #7867822 - 01/12/08 01:33 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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I agree with acyl once you are ready to try any psychedelic without hesitation than you shouldn't be considered a noob. Also when you understand the power behind them you will truly be enlightened.




What utter foolishness, in my opinion.

I am a well-traveled psychonaut. I take the loss of the ego quite well. I've had well over 100 combined trips between psilocybin and LSD. I've melted my mind on DMT multiple times.

But for me, fear, anxiety, hesitation - these are KEY parts to MY psychedelic experience.

Threads like these quest to unilateralize the psychedelic experience and create benchmarks. They make me sad for the not-so-well-travelled psychonauts, the beginners, who start feeling like they have to achieve certain things, get to certain places.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7867886 - 01/12/08 01:45 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

^^ nice.

my thoughts exactly, but i am much less experienced.

COnsidering the impact the substances will have on you, and the situations you will be in are very important. If you are not emotionally ready to trip, then it is a horrible idea. Being able to trip on any drug at any dose at whatever level of emotional stability, just proves your own ability to block out facing the mirror of the soul.

Confronting whatever you uncover inside yourself, and understanding how to incorporate the learnings you might find is what makes someone not a psychedelic "noob" to me. Its about learning about all the wonderful (or not so wonderful) things you can reveal during the experience.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: origami.octopus]
    #7868068 - 01/12/08 03:25 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I think it's all relative to the individual, though some experience of psychedelics (at whatever level the individual feels comfortable with) helps! :heart:


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
    #7868550 - 01/12/08 10:03 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

When you look at such threads and sort of laugh to yourself. Your tune will soon change man.. After you accept the insight that can be gained from such experiences you are no longer a 'noob'. I guarantee you that your standard of living will improve and everything will be slightly clearer.

However, there are plenty of people in the world that eat loads of these so called 'drugs' for their narcotic effect, and fail to learn the lessons that their subconscious is trying to communicate. The people that don't learn and grow from their experiences are the 'psychedelic noobs', The ones that still have the same ignorant, 'dishonest' mindset after psychedelic experiences are the true 'noobs'.

The best bit is that you don't have to do heroic doses or smoke loads of dmt while peaking on mushrooms, or trip 100+ times. This kind of insight can be obtained without ever doing 'drugs' at all. The word psychedelic, literally translates to 'mind manifesting' and there are plenty of experiences that do not involve these chemical keys to allow you to see in that degree of clarity.


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Re: so when are you not considered a psychedelic noob? [Re: Cepheus]
    #7868582 - 01/12/08 10:12 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

i would say i'm always going to be a noob to psychadelics until i stop learning about my mind. when i hit that wall and nothing else can be learned, i'm going to put down my psychedelics and spread the word just as i do now.


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