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mecreateme
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: wireless]
#7863996 - 01/11/08 08:50 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Cracked glowsticks are paraphernalia. As is water, gum, menthol cigs, and any form of vicks, don't forget fucking kandy...
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citricacidx
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: Ziggen]
#7864069 - 01/11/08 09:22 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Ziggen said: Were you high on MDMA?
Not that it matters, and you did get off with a warning. But, that is bullshit that the cop tried to call glow-sticks paraphernalia.
According to the US Department of Justice
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The term drug paraphernalia refers to any equipment that is used to produce, conceal, and consume illicit drugs. It includes but is not limited to items such as bongs, roach clips, miniature spoons, and various types of pipes.
Under federal law the term drug paraphernalia means "any equipment, product or material of any kind which is primarily intended or designed for use in manufacturing, compounding, converting, concealing, producing, processing, preparing, injecting, ingesting, inhaling, or otherwise introducing into the human body a controlled substance."
Glow-sticks don't seem to fit under that definition.
Maybe the cops know something we don't... someone crack open a glow stick and smoke some of that, snort some, and inject it and we'll see what happens.
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Shamanintraining
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: robbyberto]
#7864333 - 01/11/08 10:34 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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robbyberto said: When being pulled over by an unmarked car you are allowed to call the police to verify that it is legitimate and not somebody trying to rape you, steal your car, et cetera...or am I mistaken?
you are correct
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badchad
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: Shamanintraining]
#7864370 - 01/11/08 10:42 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Let me just play Devil's advocate here:
You had a box of glowsticks in your car that you were going to use "in a rave you were having in a week". The cop cited these as paraphernalia.
So basically the cop was right and you're upset?
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HeadFood
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: psychejam]
#7864392 - 01/11/08 10:49 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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psychejam said:
Yeah, undercover cops don't bother pulling people over. They just let people speeding at 20mph over the limit cruise right on past them...
"I'll just leave that hoon for a marked cop to catch. Mmm, these donuts are good."
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truffleupagus



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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: HeadFood]
#7864433 - 01/11/08 11:00 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Glow sticks are not paraphernalia. They are trip, err, roll toys.
My understanding was that paraphernalia is anything that plays a role in actually doing the drugs.
Cop sounds like a schmuck. But he could have been a prick so be happy.
Edited by TDOTupagus (01/11/08 11:05 AM)
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Devin
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: Ziggen]
#7864987 - 01/11/08 01:08 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Ziggen said: Were you high on MDMA?
Not that it matters, and you did get off with a warning. But, that is bullshit that the cop tried to call glow-sticks paraphernalia.
According to the US Department of Justice
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The term drug paraphernalia refers to any equipment that is used to produce, conceal, and consume illicit drugs. It includes but is not limited to items such as bongs, roach clips, miniature spoons, and various types of pipes.
Under federal law the term drug paraphernalia means "any equipment, product or material of any kind which is primarily intended or designed for use in manufacturing, compounding, converting, concealing, producing, processing, preparing, injecting, ingesting, inhaling, or otherwise introducing into the human body a controlled substance."
Glow-sticks don't seem to fit under that definition.
You could use a glow stick and shine it in your eyes so that your pupils get a little bit smaller, which would be concealing.
I will never carry a glowstick in my car again. Ever.
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DontPlay
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: Devin]
#7865040 - 01/11/08 01:26 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Erm that was kina lame lol you can not conceal the fact your on drugs with a glowstick. Can you show me a court case that this has been argued in ? He was just being a douche bag period. Obviously if he could do something about the glow stick he would have.
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wiggles
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: DontPlay]
#7865234 - 01/11/08 02:10 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Pretty much anything that could be associated with raves can get you searched.
I learned this the hard way when crossing the border from NY into Ontario with a bunch of kandi kids on the way to WEMF.
Helllooooo strip search.
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Ziggen
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: wiggles]
#7865665 - 01/11/08 04:03 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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There's a big difference between a border crossing and a routine traffic stop. They don't really need any reason to strip search you at a border crossing.
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wiggles
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: Ziggen]
#7865696 - 01/11/08 04:10 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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Truth, but most LEO (including border officers) think the same way.
Glow stick = drugs somewhere inside
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Ziggen
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: wiggles]
#7865759 - 01/11/08 04:24 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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True, but I doubt that a glow stick would hold up in court as probable cause (not that the cop wouldn't just lie and say he smelled pot or some shit), whereas border officers need no probable cause.
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Serdal
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: Ziggen]
#7865984 - 01/11/08 05:07 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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when I read the title I was like "wtf did this kid get in trouble for? glowsticks? LOL." Then I read the post.
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PoisonedV
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: badchad]
#7866279 - 01/11/08 06:15 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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badchad said: Let me just play Devil's advocate here:
You had a box of glowsticks in your car that you were going to use "in a rave you were having in a week". The cop cited these as paraphernalia.
So basically the cop was right and you're upset?
beat me to it
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budsmoke
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: robbyberto]
#7866827 - 01/11/08 09:09 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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robbyberto said: When being pulled over by an unmarked car you are allowed to call the police to verify that it is legitimate and not somebody trying to rape you, steal your car, et cetera...or am I mistaken?
It's true, I remember learning it in driving school like 3 years ago...
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cheshirect666
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: wireless]
#7867282 - 01/11/08 11:07 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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sounds to me like dude just wanted to mess with yuh
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Cacophony
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: Ziggen]
#7867298 - 01/11/08 11:11 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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my cousin is head of 911 truth Philadelphia, and with radical ideals come cantankerous prick cops! So please do yourself the favor of finding a program that educates about what cops and judges can, and cannot do.
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krin
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: Cacophony]
#7867306 - 01/11/08 11:14 PM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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hmmm. i guess i got lucky. got pulled over in new york, right outside the city, for making a an ullegal uturn and unsafe lane changing. undercover was following us for a while b4 he pulled us over. the only problem we had was that me and my friend werre rolling hardcore in the car. pupils dialted and prob rolling like shit. i hoinestly think we msut have scared the shit out of the cop or something, hahaha. we got pulled over and 2 squad cars arrived later on with a police truck too. it was rediculous. all the while i was sitting there beeing totally hyponotized by the beautiful blue and red lights EVERYWHERE. man we were totaly gone. when the cop came back to the car i was shocked ot see he handed me 1 ticket for unsafe lane changing and told us to go. ahahaha. when we got home we realzied how bad we had looekd rolling in the cops face. damn. i never pushed my luck liek that again.
Pushed YOUR luck? haha hey buddy, what about everyone driving on the same road as someone that high, I think you were pushing there's a bit too
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dtugg
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: krin]
#7867531 - 01/12/08 12:31 AM (16 years, 21 days ago) |
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On kind of a tangent, If you have any kind of illegal drugs with me (ie going to a rave), make sure not to have any kind of raver paraphernalia on at all. Especially kandy beads and glowsticks because it makes you look so much more suspicious to cops. I go to raves dressed normally, and maybe put some kandy on when I get there.
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headybrah215
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Re: I got pulled over with "ecstasy paraphernalia " WTF [Re: dtugg]
#7868268 - 01/12/08 07:46 AM (16 years, 20 days ago) |
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Wow this is complete bullshit
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