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OfflineKillerChronic420
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Boss fires staff for not smoking
    #7861312 - 01/10/08 07:52 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Boss fires staff for not smoking

BERLIN (Reuters) - The owner of a small German computer company has fired three non-smoking workers because they were threatening to disturb the peace after they requested a smoke-free environment.

The manager of the 10-person IT company in Buesum, named Thomas J., told the Hamburger Morgenpost newspaper he had fired the trio because their non-smoking was causing disruptions.

Germany introduced non-smoking rules in pubs and restaurants on January 1, but Germans working in small offices are still allowed to smoke.

"I can't be bothered with trouble-makers," Thomas was quoted saying. "We're on the phone all the time and it's just easier to work while smoking. Everyone picks on smokers these days. It's time for revenge. I'm only going to hire smokers from now on."


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: KillerChronic420]
    #7861342 - 01/10/08 07:59 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

That is pretty crazy.

I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing..:confused:


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking *DELETED* [Re: Phishe]
    #7861380 - 01/10/08 08:09 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: Phishe]
    #7861408 - 01/10/08 08:15 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Phishe said:
That is pretty crazy.

I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing..:confused:



thats how the nazi's felt.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: rodfarva]
    #7861416 - 01/10/08 08:16 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

:gethigh:


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: xpl0de]
    #7861665 - 01/10/08 08:56 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

what an asshole. I love people who claim to believe that people should be able to put what tehy want in your body. but guess what, asshats, that includes NOT doing drugs


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7862056 - 01/10/08 09:47 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

would be cool if they were talking about weed and not cigs :wink: a boss that requires you to get blazed... hmm...


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: usg543]
    #7862260 - 01/10/08 10:24 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

In america, I would say fuck that company, LAWSUIT.

But, the laws in their country...

Well shit, they are allowed too smoke and there are no laws to protect non-smokers. So good job for the boss making everyones life a bit shorter as a whole.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7862334 - 01/10/08 10:37 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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PoisonedV said:
what an asshole. I love people who claim to believe that people should be able to put what tehy want in your body. but guess what, asshats, that includes NOT doing drugs




He didn't fire them because they didn't smoke. He fired them because they were causing disruptions by complaining about others smoking.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: rodfarva]
    #7862384 - 01/10/08 10:47 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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rodfarva said:
Quote:

Phishe said:
That is pretty crazy.

I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing..:confused:



thats how the nazi's felt.




:congrats:


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: rexmundi]
    #7862451 - 01/10/08 10:59 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I wouldn't want to smell that shit at work either.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #7862715 - 01/10/08 11:32 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

i kind of agree with the guy, i dont think he should have fired them, but anti smoking laws are a threat to private property ownership. if you want to be in a smoke free environment, find one that is already smoke free, dont come in the place demanding the owner to drop his rights on what he owns.

both were wrong in this. but then again i dont know the laws in germany.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: Phishe]
    #7863020 - 01/11/08 12:33 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

Phishe said:
That is pretty crazy.

I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing..:confused:




It's neither - it's a person running their business the way they want to run it and telling their employees if they don't like it, to get out.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: ManInTheCorner]
    #7863502 - 01/11/08 03:05 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

> weird way of discrimination

How is it discrimination?  If the laws that restrict smoking in public places don't discriminate; then firing non-smokers also does not discriminate.

> I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing..:confused:

I'm a rabid anti-smoker in public places (malls, parks, sidewalks, etc), but I feel private businesses should be allowed to do whatever they want with respect to smoking.  I find any law that regulates smoking in private places, including businesses, to be another form of "moral legislation".  If an employer wants to allow employees to smoke, then the non-smokers can find a new job elsewhere.  If an employer wants a smoke free workplace, then smokers can find a new job elsewhere.  Resturants, bars, etc, should allow or deny patrons to smoke based upon the owners moral values rather than some schmuck sitting in public office.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: Civ]
    #7864026 - 01/11/08 09:05 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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Civ said:
In america, I would say fuck that company, LAWSUIT.

But, the laws in their country...

Well shit, they are allowed too smoke and there are no laws to protect non-smokers. So good job for the boss making everyones life a bit shorter as a whole.




On the contrary he actually extended peoples lives by remvoing the non smokers from his smokey work place. I don't smoke the Brown stuff, but I always complain about the non smokey bars, and non smoking offices which are almost all of them these days.
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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: Seuss]
    #7864061 - 01/11/08 09:18 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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> weird way of discrimination

How is it discrimination?  If the laws that restrict smoking in public places don't discriminate; then firing non-smokers also does not discriminate.

> I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing..:confused:

I'm a rabid anti-smoker in public places (malls, parks, sidewalks, etc), but I feel private businesses should be allowed to do whatever they want with respect to smoking.  I find any law that regulates smoking in private places, including businesses, to be another form of "moral legislation".  If an employer wants to allow employees to smoke, then the non-smokers can find a new job elsewhere.  If an employer wants a smoke free workplace, then smokers can find a new job elsewhere.  Restaurants, bars, etc, should allow or deny patrons to smoke based upon the owners moral values rather than so
me schmuck sitting in public office.




Aw Democrats.  Safe work place procedures effect the entire colony in a positive manner.  Yet its your business shouldn't you decide what happens in it, even down to getting sued for being neglectful.    The great FreeDumb Vs Social responsibility debate.  Was the new deal a slavery scam, or a way to help many of the nations poor at the nations rich expense.   

Ron Paul, or Dennis Kucinnich.

This is how ive come to view things these days.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: KillerChronic420]
    #7864127 - 01/11/08 09:39 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

The point is its his business and he can run it any way he wants. If he wants to run it into the ground its his choice. Good for him. Im a non smoker (cigs, i smoke plenty of the other stuff), but smoke doesn't really bother me, I like the smell of it.


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    #7864300 - 01/11/08 10:27 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: Chemy]
    #7865053 - 01/11/08 01:30 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

@to the ones talking about respecting private ownership

Didn't it cross your mind that sometimes people can't just leave the job they don't like because of economical (or economic, I always mistake these two words) reasons? Many people have jobs they don't like/hate, because they have no other choice. They should still be guaranteed a safe environment at workplace.

This doesn't apply to, for example, restaurants, because in case of places like that you indeed have a choice.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: Ojom]
    #7865189 - 01/11/08 02:00 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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PoisonedV said:
what an asshole. I love people who claim to believe that people should be able to put what tehy want in your body. but guess what, asshats, that includes NOT doing drugs




He didn't fire them because they didn't smoke. He fired them because they were causing disruptions by complaining about others smoking.



I'm only going to hire smokers from now on.
only going to hire smokers
hire smokers


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7868579 - 01/12/08 10:11 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

whatever, its his choice

no, i don't appreciate the smell of cigarette smoke, but i'm sure everyone around town doesn't appreciate when i roll up after smoking a jibber, reaking like pot smoke.

There will always be discrimination against someone. its how humans work.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7869427 - 01/12/08 03:22 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

The guy has every right to fire whinny B*Tches.. It's his business he should be able to do what he wants. AMERICA IS TURNING TO SHIT!


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: LoWgRoW]
    #7869970 - 01/12/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

By your guys logic he should be able to fire anyone at his business who won't consent to anal sex. It's his business, let him do whatever he wants, right? Finding a job is fucking hard and a person shouldn't have to get lung cancer just to support themselves cause of some asshole.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: Mandark]
    #7869976 - 01/12/08 05:39 PM (16 years, 20 days ago)

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@to the ones talking about respecting private ownership

Didn't it cross your mind that sometimes people can't just leave the job they don't like because of economical (or economic, I always mistake these two words) reasons? Many people have jobs they don't like/hate, because they have no other choice. They should still be guaranteed a safe environment at workplace.

This doesn't apply to, for example, restaurants, because in case of places like that you indeed have a choice.




Seriously.


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Re: Boss fires staff for not smoking [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #7871691 - 01/13/08 12:05 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

You guys also keep forgetting he is only hiring smokers now, too


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