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OfflineAeolus1369
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Mushroom evolution
    #786034 - 07/30/02 11:26 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Hey all, as I was driving home from work the other day, some crazy thoughts crossed my mind.

We all learned in high school biology that survival of the fittest dictates evolutionary changes in a species. Well that got me thinking about cultivated mushrooms. When one grows and selects a specimen for printing/cloning, they are choosing the specimen that thrived best under the specific conditions it was grown in (substrate, environment etc.) So if I buy a syringe from vendor X who always uses rye and spawns on poo to grow his shrooms, but I want to do BRF cakes, I would be using a strain that was bred based on its affinity for poo. So maybe it wouldn't do as well on the cakes?

Ok, so you may point out that evolution takes hundreds of thousands of years to make a significant difference, but this is a highly selective process so it just makes me wonder. I'm still new to this (my first batch is finally pinning! ) but it would be great if someone would perform an experiment on this. You could pick some arbitrary strain, grow a few generations on poo while growing a few generations of the same original strain on BRF cakes. Then take prints of the last generation and switch the substrate and see if the mushies do better or worse.

Thanks for entertaining my musings...I'd appreciate any feedback

--Aeolus


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Re: Mushroom evolution [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #789274 - 07/31/02 09:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

*bump* c'mon...anyone see what I'm saying?

--Aeolus


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Re: Mushroom evolution [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #789383 - 07/31/02 10:25 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

You might also want to try posting a simlar post int the Adv. Mushie Forum! Sorry I understand yuor theory but have no insight really to offer that has any hard data or anything behind. Good Luck!


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Re: Mushroom evolution [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #789436 - 07/31/02 11:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Genetic evolution in mushrooms doesn't take hundreds of thousands of years. For example, you can cultivate color out of colored oysters in only a few generations.

Infact, for commercial production, growing from spore can be so hit-or-miss as to make-or-break your business. Hence commercial growers will often buy starter cultures from myco labs periodically, rather than trying to perfect their own strains.

As for your experiment, I think you'll always find cubensis likes grass fed manures. BRF is no match nutritionally, especially when it comes to trace elements.

Just my two cents,

-psyco


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Re: Mushroom evolution [Re: psyconaut]
    #789608 - 08/01/02 03:10 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

A very hard experiment. If the grower does just one little thing different to 1 of the strains or mediums of substrate, they may end up with a different outcomes that are wrongly attributed to the theory of evolution instead of the growing methods.


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