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Offlinewearejellyfish
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picking through a lie
    #7859740 - 01/10/08 02:10 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

what's the best way to pick through a lie without sounding accusing?


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #7859746 - 01/10/08 02:10 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

just do it they are the wrong ones


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #7859752 - 01/10/08 02:11 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

with kungfu


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #7859755 - 01/10/08 02:11 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Torture is the best way.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #7859758 - 01/10/08 02:12 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Waterboarding, duh.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7859771 - 01/10/08 02:14 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

straight up confront the person to their face.

dont accuse them just confront. if you can find an easy way to do this, let me know.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7859774 - 01/10/08 02:14 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

did you try mowing the lawn


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: Philanthropist]
    #7859821 - 01/10/08 02:22 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Could also try wiretapping. Hire someone for round-the-clock surveillance.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: Philanthropist]
    #7859822 - 01/10/08 02:23 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

this takes skill. usually you have to have an education in law. lawyers are great at it.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: Philanthropist]
    #7859823 - 01/10/08 02:23 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Philanthropist said:
did you try mowing the lawn




yeah, that's already done.
i pulled weeds before i did that.
now i'm going to trim the hedges into animal shapes


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7859828 - 01/10/08 02:24 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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The_Ghost said:
Could also try wiretapping. Hire someone for round-the-clock surveillance.




probably the most efficient way.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #7859864 - 01/10/08 02:29 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

wearejellyfish said:
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The_Ghost said:
Could also try wiretapping. Hire someone for round-the-clock surveillance.




probably the most efficient way.



Nah torture is. But not always an option : /


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7859872 - 01/10/08 02:31 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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The_Ghost said:
Quote:

wearejellyfish said:
Quote:

The_Ghost said:
Could also try wiretapping. Hire someone for round-the-clock surveillance.




probably the most efficient way.



Nah torture is. But not always an option : /




heh. not in this case


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: The_Ghost]
    #7859879 - 01/10/08 02:32 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

speak in puns they talk back subconsciously and voila you learn something bout yourself/them and they learn they're an asshole
everybody wins


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7859892 - 01/10/08 02:34 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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OneLessForeskin said:
Waterboarding, duh.




:lol:


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7859957 - 01/10/08 02:46 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

wash your underwear scrub your va jay jay


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #7859990 - 01/10/08 02:53 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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wearejellyfish said:
what's the best way to pick through a lie without sounding accusing?




when the lie starts, stop him/her and make them clarify the lie, have them retell
the story several times, stopping them to point out that their story changed,
confront lies. life is difficult enough without having to wade through bullshit


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7860123 - 01/10/08 03:18 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

ask about the supposed lie numerous times at various times and as the story changes a little (and if its a lie it will) the keep breaking it down until the person in turn gives up enough information to confront them about the lie and all your backed up statements will shut them out so bad they will have no ground to stand on.

I do it all the time and its tried and true


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Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: fee]
    #7860173 - 01/10/08 03:30 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Be conscious of it and steer conversation in the direction of the lie.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7860180 - 01/10/08 03:31 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:

when the lie starts, stop him/her and make them clarify the lie, have them retell
the story several times, stopping them to point out that their story changed,
confront lies. life is difficult enough without having to wade through bullshit




:yesnod:

Asking about details of the lie always gets 'em.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7860203 - 01/10/08 03:38 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

wearejellyfish said:
what's the best way to pick through a lie without sounding accusing?




when the lie starts, stop him/her and make them clarify the lie, have them retell
the story several times, stopping them to point out that their story changed,
confront lies. life is difficult enough without having to wade through bullshit



:thumbup:

Ask questions.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: Cowgold]
    #7860218 - 01/10/08 03:40 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

oy. i'll be trying a few things out a little later.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #7860238 - 01/10/08 03:44 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

look at their eyes, normal right handed person's eyes will go to the right when the mind is being creative (ex: making something up), when the eyes go to the left the memory is being accessed (ex: recalling events), it is the opposite for left handed people.

so ask lots of questions, watch their eyes.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: LuNaTiX]
    #7860295 - 01/10/08 03:56 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

LuNaTiX said:
look at their eyes, normal right handed person's eyes will go to the right when the mind is being creative (ex: making something up), when the eyes go to the left the memory is being accessed (ex: recalling events), it is the opposite for left handed people.

so ask lots of questions, watch their eyes.




yeah. that's what i wanted to hear.
thanks!!


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: wearejellyfish]
    #7860310 - 01/10/08 04:01 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

That's not a reliable way to tell. If they know you think they're lieing, they'll act more like a liar. Plus, it doesn't take much for you to 'validate' your suspicions once you have them.

Most people think they can read body language better than they really can.


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Re: picking through a lie [Re: Cowgold]
    #7860338 - 01/10/08 04:12 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

i believe that


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