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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: soilgro]
    #7858502 - 01/10/08 10:18 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Maybe its just an off color blue (not the green blue cubes bruise) lots of people cant decide on a color... Its probably just a really vivid or neon or bright blue that isnt specificly blue


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7858505 - 01/10/08 10:19 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Some peeps I used to kick it with would always pick theirs from a field when they were fruiting, and call a bunch of peeps over to come partake. Uusually, they guy that was in charge of the ordeal would run water over the shrooms in a strainer as he broke them up into bite sized pieces and put them on seperate styrofoam plates to equal out the doses for everyone. There was always purple water left in the plates (that got greedily sipped down)
So, who knows where such claims stem from....

He always said the same shit. "That purple juice mean they good foo!"


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7858516 - 01/10/08 10:21 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Yeah well, I don't really know about the spore colour of other mushrooms, but psilocybes have purple spores and therefore this -very strange- method, could have been an indicator for him to see if it's psilocybes, just as other people take a print on their way, to recognize what species it is.


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: soilgro]
    #7858518 - 01/10/08 10:22 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Also maybe they were talking about the spores that spray on the caps or the veil the spores drop on (sometimes purplish)


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: implee]
    #7858531 - 01/10/08 10:24 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Well, could have been... but he says that ALL people just talked about the "purps" and they made them much more "high" than others and I guess you know as good as I do, that a purple coloration of mushrooms, caused by spores is rather rare (I never saw it), so it's quiet unlikely that he sold lot's of mushrooms, covered in purple spores.
Most of the time spores on caps are just brown.


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7858570 - 01/10/08 10:33 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I could see people laying them out to print for a day and being all happy to eat the purps when there might be poison one around .


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7858878 - 01/10/08 11:33 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Well, could have been... but he says that ALL people just talked about the "purps" and they made them much more "high" than others and I guess you know as good as I do, that a purple coloration of mushrooms, caused by spores is rather rare (I never saw it), so it's quiet unlikely that he sold lot's of mushrooms, covered in purple spores.
Most of the time spores on caps are just brown.





This is so stupid

Here VVVV



See those caps?

Their purple color comes from the spores landing on them while fruiting=if you leave them in the fruiting chamber long enough they will turn completely purple on top, on the stems and viel.
What you saw as purple juice was the spores being rinsed away-want me to show you that too? People see that purple color and think its magic or potent when in all reality it is nothing but a cube that remained in the fruiting chamber too long.



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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: doc34]
    #7859002 - 01/10/08 11:53 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

You seem to have gotten something wrong here!

I perfectly know about spores being dropped in the FC, landing of smaller mushrooms caps etc.
I didn't try to tell anyone, that there is no purple coloration from spore dropping. I say it's rather rare, for most of time (well, at least in MY experience), this coloration looks more brown than purple. At least fo me. The pic you posted is good example of purplish coloration, though I'D consider it purple/brown and when I look at my dried mushroom stash, I won't say, that they look very purple, but often brown to black. The spores on the caps seem to get darker, the dryer they get.
I couldn't imagine, that people call the colour of these dried mushrooms actually purple! The bluing effect on mushrooms is the eye catcher (at least for people I know). IF the mushrooms were covered with spores, I think they'd look more brown/black than purple.

This what I mean:

The one in the middle is actually the most "purple" one I could find...



I'd think, that this won't really appear as "purple" to people. Especially when the stems are all coloured in a quiet powerful blue.


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7859066 - 01/10/08 12:05 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

My friend those in that pic are caused from the spores landing on top of them, nothing else.And if you look, it is purpleish chocolate brown, but the first thing people assume-"it's purple"


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P.S. spores dropping on the caps is very common. Let me add that extreme bluing may also represent purple or blackish purple. But those caps in your pic are not of that-thats spores and I will be willing to bet on it-how much money you got?


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: doc34]
    #7859242 - 01/10/08 12:35 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Dammit, somehow, I must tell things wrong.

Look: I DO know about the spore floating thing. And I DO know that it happens all the time and so it does during my grows when the fruits mature. I DO know that the brown stuff on the caps is spores. That's why I posted them! I just wanted to show, that dried spores on caps look more brown/black than purple. I never said nor meant that this is bluing. It's spores and I know that :wink:

I never doubted anything you wrote here EXCEPT for the colour of the caps, for they seem to look more brown than purple to ME, at least when the caps, the spores have landed on, are dry.


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7861236 - 01/10/08 07:38 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

The caps of mushrooms that do not have spores on them are all shades of, tan, brown, gold and silver usually goldish brown like these



But when left in the fruiting chamber too long they get spores on them and it looks just like your picture-the caps are brown, not purple. The spores on the caps from being in the fruiting chamber are what everyone thinks are the "purps"-I have had the same thing told to me by a friend of mine some time ago and I showed him what he thought were some kick-ass shrooms because they appeared to be purple.

I don't know how or why we got off track-the post is "Where are the purps" and it was stated about the purple caps=I answered and then you said I must have gotten something wrong but in reality all I did was answer to the post.
But your pic is of spores on the caps, not bruising. The brown that I see is the cap itself. It appears to be a dark purple to me. So yeah, I can see where people would call them purps, your pic is just like the ones that people assume are purple kickass shrooms.

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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: doc34]
    #7862289 - 01/10/08 10:27 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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There are NO PURPLE MAGIC KICKASS SHROOMS! Just shrooms that were left to sporalate too long before picking.





Right! at least for the first part :wink:

I can't see any colour that I'd interprete as purple or at least "imagine" that people would talk about it as purple.
Maybe I have a colour problem of which I don't know, but when I look at the caps on the pic I've posted I'd rather say they are... well "dark". But not dark purple :wink:

Anyway, in the end I guess it's simply a question of interprete a colour, which seems to very from person to person, so there's actually no point you can argue about :smile:


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7863858 - 01/11/08 07:17 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

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OK heres my deal,

Everyone in my town seems to think that the "purple staining mushrooms are better that the blue staining mushrooms."
Countless people have said, "I've only had purple staining mushrooms"

From the story's I hear they are really visuale. But then again everybody seems to think the life of a mushroom is dusk till dawn,
8 hours or so, and they think "the big caps are what you want" LOL





Yes, misinformed people think that "magic" mushrooms will melt when the sun comes up(They got that from probably the "Inky Caps" that in fact do dissolve and turn to "Ink" and give the appearance of melting caps)a few people think that melting act is an act of potentcy, "Look my face is melting",lol. So somewhere along the lines some one gave some-one some mushies that were in fact quite potent and they had purple caps due to over sporalation and let me state that "Word-of-mouth" travels faster than radio waves, and when they ate them they did get fucked up but they put the color of the caps(purple) as the reason for the increase in potentcy, when in all reality that is not true-it was just a strong strain(Probably grown on some type of poo to get really potent).
So, at that moment the myth of the kickass "purple" magic mushrooms was then born.

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Mabey everbody here is lieing and just going by what they "heard", I have never seen shrooms for sale around here ever, never seen anybody here with shrooms ever, all the mushrooms I have ever ate came from me!! Never had a wild mushroom ever!
Everbody here says they trip real hard, actully seeing shit thats not there, "damn lepercaun took my lighter" and what-not.




Like I said-word of mouth travels fast,especially when it is about something that is so good!

Fahface you said this
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Well, could have been... but he says that ALL people just talked about the "purps" and they made them much more "high" than others and I guess you know as good as I do, that a purple coloration of mushrooms, caused by spores is rather rare (I never saw it),[/b] so it's quiet unlikely that he sold lot's of mushrooms, covered in purple spores.
Most of the time spores on caps are just brown.






I simply answered you and explained that is common and that the color of spores on caps are purple not brown. Anyhow, somewhere you took that as a threat upon your creditability( I never meant anything like that, I was just trying to set the record straight about the "Purps").

You said
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You seem to have gotten something wrong here!



I say it's rather rare, for most of time (well, at least in MY experience),
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is where we got side tracked and I appologise for any misunderstanding on my part.
It is not rare at all-just leave them in the fruiting chamber for a day or two extra and wah-lah.

Then you posted the picture and I answered because I know what that is and how it is caused, as I have had that happen in just about every grow I have ever done(there is always a couple of shrooms that finish first and get sporalated on).

Fahkface I have no arguement with you, at all, I do have a problem with spreading misinformation about mushrooms. Now, when people read this they think"Damn, I want some of those purple shrooms", what if a kid saw that and went out into the woods behind his house and ate what he thought was a "Purple magic mushroom" and died? I explained what that purple color was and for some reason you got upset-hey you are right"There is no arguement" I just corrected this post so no-one was misinformed.
If you have a problem with that oh well. I never meant to piss anyone off-just had to correct a misinformed member not you!

THE PURPLE LOOKING COLOR ON P. CUBENSIS MUSHROOMS IS NOT A FACTOR OF POTENTCY IT IS A COLORATION OF THE SPORES LEFT ON THE CAPS FROM BEING LEFT IN THE FRUITING CHAMBER TOO LONG"
Fakface that picture you posted is a prime example of just that.


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so there's actually no point you can argue about




True other than the fact that there are no purps,lol.

Peace bro


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: doc34]
    #7863927 - 01/11/08 07:56 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Peal, I wasn't pissed about you, though it might have appeared to you (and maybe others as well), that I was.
Again: I wasn't :wink:

When I wrote: "You seem to have gotten wrong", I had the opinion that what I wrote was clear.

When I wrote: "Dammit, somehow I must tell things wrong", I corrected my above mentioned sentence, in a way, of doubting, that it was YOUR understanding that got us off track, but my seemingly non existent ability to express my self the way, I would have liked you to understand me.

As a conclusion of the actual information given (or at least that were TRIED to be given :wink: ), I can say, that I stick with every word you said, except for the INTERPRETATION of the colour, which was, and still is more brown/black than purple to me :smile:

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let me state that "Word-of-mouth" travels faster than radio waves




So true! Could have been the reason for that stuff to happen! At least it's the only reason that makes sense :wink:

Now, let us get back to growing having fun :tongue2:


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: Fahkface]
    #7863963 - 01/11/08 08:24 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

There are people that only buy what they ingest and never care to research. Those are the stupid people.:grin:

Then there are people who have taken something, been interested in its origins, and started to research and or grow/produce the desired product out of a hobby. Those are the intelligent, self-reliant, well educated people like us on the Shroomery!:cool:

You will get a lot of hearsay when it comes to drugs.  I'm sorry to say, that a big percentage of users are not very smart, and then again, there are the intelligent and curious users who are interested in more than just the inebriation.


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Re: Where are the Purps??? [Re: Grylls]
    #7864126 - 01/11/08 09:39 AM (16 years, 21 days ago)

I guess it's not their fault, that they're not interested in certain things. Most people around here are just more sensible to topics like drugs, biology, anthropology and what not. The ones, that just consume drugs, without even thinking about it, might have other interests. The ones, who are really not interested in ANYTHING, as long as their needs are satisfied, THOSE are the idiots, that just waste their time on this wonderful planet, with all it's unique and sophisticated ways of making our the few days, we have on it, so kick ass :laugh:


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