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OfflineTurntableJunky
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7880929 - 01/15/08 07:56 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

You were permabanned by the law of the shroomery you should not be here.


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OfflineFarFromHere
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7880942 - 01/15/08 07:59 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

By law of the shroomery the mods allowed me back on.

I discussed it with them.

Are the mods not the law of the shroomery?

Have they not allowed me back here?

Why do you question their judgement?

Why do you attempt to start drama?

Please remove this bullshit from my "Peyotes" thread!


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OfflineTurntableJunky
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7880953 - 01/15/08 08:01 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I am not attempting to start drama. I am attempting to get you re-banned for creating a puppet account.


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OfflineFarFromHere
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7880968 - 01/15/08 08:04 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I am attempting to tell you that the mods allowed me to make this account...


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OfflineTurntableJunky
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7880977 - 01/15/08 08:05 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

No one mod went against shroomery policy and allowed you to create a puppet account.


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OfflineFarFromHere
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7881016 - 01/15/08 08:11 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Dude I don't know who let me back on.

It was a mod.

I'll try to pull up my ticket...


God...I just want to talk about peyotes...


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OfflineTurntableJunky
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7881027 - 01/15/08 08:12 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I dont care who it was. That mod went against the rules of the shroomery by letting you back in.


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OfflineFarFromHere
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7881041 - 01/15/08 08:15 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Are you a mod?



I can't believe me thread is full of this bullshit now.


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OfflineFarFromHere
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7881045 - 01/15/08 08:15 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

This was serious man...

I really wanted to talk and learn about peyotes.


This thread won't be shit now.


It will turn into a big pool of drama.


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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7881050 - 01/15/08 08:16 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

this thread is so off topic, might as well be locked.


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OfflineFarFromHere
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: deformedreality]
    #7881060 - 01/15/08 08:18 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

That's what I just said.


TurntableJunkey...


I'm asking you.

As one human to another.

Give me another chance.

I am not a bad person...


Have the plants we ingest not taught you forgiveness?



Shroomites! If I am banned please carry on the search for the "Lost Peyotes"!!!


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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7881286 - 01/15/08 09:15 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

what is everyones problem. This is the fucking internet. get over yourselves.


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OfflineFarFromHere
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: deformedreality]
    #7881391 - 01/15/08 09:51 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I'm going to attempt to put this thread back on topic.



One issue I would like to address is the issue of preservation.

Some people ask me- "Why are the Entheogenic effects of these cacti so important to you? Why can't you enjoy them if they don't have psychoactive effects?"


The answer is preservation.

I can and do enjoy the company of my many "peyotes" but I do not ingest any of them.

That's what Trichocereus cacti are for...

If we could only prove that these "Lost Peyotes" were psychoactive people would take great interest in them.

For many "Lost Peyotes" survival in the wild is almost certain to end sometime in the future.

Some may be lost forever...at the very least genetic diversity would be lost, with only a few (possibly inactive) strains remaining in cultivation.

Yet if Lophophora went extinct in the wild, it would be perfectly intact, flourishing in human cultivation.

If we are able to prove that some of these "Lost Peyotes" hold within them powers to alter our states of mind we will ensure the survival a of the species...


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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7881426 - 01/15/08 10:07 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)



As far as I know the "false" peyote listed aren't really false per say, although, wrong would be more fitting. Most of the ariocarpus sp were known as false for a reason. They were thought to cause insanity. You choose the wrong offering/plant you have to deal with it. But, this is kind of broad since peyote may mean "healing" in some dialect. etc...


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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7881601 - 01/15/08 11:40 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

He was allowed back by an admin. Got another chance. So plz, both of you, no flames.



ROYER SAYS:LIKE NAILM SAID ADMIN LET HIM IN NOT MODS!!


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OfflineFarFromHere
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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: Nalim]
    #7882518 - 01/15/08 07:22 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Thank you Nalim.

I wish now I hadn't responded to Turntable's flaming...

I am here to talk about cactuses, not fight with people...


Today I received three VERY small "Peyotes".


Strombocactus disciformis

Epithelantha micromeris

Ariocarpus Fissuratus var. lloydii



The Strombocactus was grown from seed in 1995, I think it's less than a inch wide...wow, these things are slow!


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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7882980 - 01/15/08 08:40 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

post pictures of those beauties!


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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: Knoa6]
    #7883617 - 01/15/08 11:11 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Shit...my girlfriend just left with my camera...


Heres an Astrophytum asterias of mine...




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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: FarFromHere]
    #7883768 - 01/15/08 11:46 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

FarFromHere said:
Thank you Nalim.
Today I received three VERY small "Peyotes".


Strombocactus disciformis

Epithelantha micromeris

Ariocarpus Fissuratus var. lloydii





pictures, or it didn't happen


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Re: "Peyotes and False Peyotes" and other psychoactive Cacti [Re: Knoa6]
    #7884099 - 01/16/08 12:44 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

That's a very nice asterias, looks happy. :thumbup:

I have heard A. asterias is self-sterile so you need two plants to produce any seeds.  Anyone know if this is true?  I am very interested if anyone knows whether various ariocarpus cacti (specifically fissuratus, retusus, and trigonus) are self-fertile or self-sterile so if anyone with experience or information could lend their knowledge it would be appreciated.

I saw a good number of Epithelantha micromeris in the mountains of Mexico on my last trip there, I think they are also common at many nurseries.  They like to grow from between cracks in rocks, cool little guys.


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