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a lot of conservative blogs are really angry
    #7856387 - 01/09/08 09:54 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

first i read all these crazy conspriacy theories they espouse about gays trying to "Takeover" the US. of course that's equally as nutty as 9/11 truthers on the left. then they try to pretend somehow the left is in bed with crazy islamic terrorists. even though the islamic terrorist and govts are by definition conservative. most of these blogs all think its really funny to call obama, "osama". funny how they even mention osama since bush has failed to catch or kill the only person actually responsible for 9/11. also i think if you took osama's views, which are extremely religiously conservative and violence driven. those views definitely are closer to the views of some republican politicians than obama's.

calling obama, "osama" is really childish and sad. oh and lastly, since i lean to the left i will tell you, we dont side with islam. the islamic world is proof how scary religious conservatives can become if they are in charge. i would do anything to prevent religious conservatives from meddling in my life or killing my countrymen. I take a strong stance against the insanity that is religious conservatism. I don't discriminate based on religion either. Christianity, Islam and Judaism all have their crazies who deny science, are anti-intellectual and want to push humanity back into the dark ages. Thankfully throughout history, progressive thought has always eventually triumphed over dogmatic religious tyranny.


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7856595 - 01/09/08 10:27 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

I know the talkshows sure seem alot more angry and mean (conservative vs. liberal) on the radio, back when we had liberal radio in these parts

But the liberals have plenty of nutjobs on the fringes too, but I hear ya... w/ alot of conservatives they just seem pissy about everything...

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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7857028 - 01/09/08 11:32 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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I don't discriminate based on religion either. Christianity, Islam and Judaism AND ATHEISM




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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: Syle]
    #7857534 - 01/10/08 01:38 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

atheism isnt a religion...despite what some crazy religious people try to convince you of. let me put this moronic idea to rest:

re·li·gion /rɪˈlɪdʒ<1;n/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

atheism doesnt have any set beliefs on anything. espcially not the purpose of the universe. also atheism has no set moral code. so, nope!

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

since atheism is not organized there are no fundamental beliefs. as an atheist you dont believe in god. you could also decide to not believe in science or some other things in reallity. i could deny the sky being blue but as long as i didnt believe in god i would be atheist. buddists are even considered atheists because they dont believe in a deity. so you can be atheist AND a member of a religion... further making the point atheism is not a fucking religion

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

again, no set beliefs in atheism

4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.

obviously this doesnt apply
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

of course this doesnt apply either

6. religions, Archaic. religious rites.

no

8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.

no!
9. get religion, Informal.
a. to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices.
b. to resolve to mend one's errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.

this doesnt apply to atheism either




calling atheism a religion is now just a retarded come back christians have come up with when debating atheism. however they dont take many things into consideration. they dont understand science or the scientific method. this makes it easier for them to discredit science. what's funny is christians have been attempting to deny science for thousands of years. they used to kill people for actually figuring out things about the universe and our planet. some of those discoveries, religious people have been forced to accept now. in the future, the deniers of evolution and the "young earth" morons will be looked upon as crazy and in the way of progress. just like the ancient morons who killed people for suggesting the earth wasnt center of the universe.


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7857688 - 01/10/08 03:37 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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atheism doesnt have any set beliefs on anything. espcially not the purpose of the universe. also atheism has no set moral code. so, nope!




Which is a belief. Like it or not, atheism is the belief that there is no creator. Being atheist is no different, from a belief based upon faith standpoint, than religion. Neither side has proof that they are correct. Both sides use various forms of hand waving to prove that they are correct. Both sides base their correctness upon unprovable faith. Atheism is based upon faith, which is the basis of most religions, thus atheism, in a way, is a religion of faith.

> 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe

Yep. Atheism is a belief (a set can contain one item) that the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe is not controlled by some godlike figure.

> 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons

Yep. Atheism is a fundamental belief (that there is no godlike figurehead) generally agreed upon by a number of persons.

> 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices

Yep. Atheism is a belief (again, sets can contain one item) with a practice of not following religious like ceremonies.

The only real difference between atheism and most religion is organization.

> 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion

Nope. No organized atheist monks, nuns, etc trying to spread atheism to the masses.

> the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

Nope. No organized rituals to observe the faith.

... etc ...

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I know the talkshows sure seem alot more angry and mean (conservative vs. liberal) on the radio, back when we had liberal radio in these parts

But the liberals have plenty of nutjobs on the fringes too, but I hear ya... w/ alot of conservatives they just seem pissy about everything...




I don't really see that much difference between the two groups. Is Rush really that different from Alex? I don't listen to either of them, but from what I read from time to time, they both seem to be full of hot air.

It is interesting that the moral conservatives seem to have a lot of hate. Is this real, or a bias in observation? Is the hate that Al Sharpton spews any different than that hate that O'Reilly spews? Are there more O'Reillys than Sharptons in the public eye?


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7858141 - 01/10/08 08:32 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Care to name some of these conservative blogs? My guess is I regularly read more blogs (conservative and liberal both) than pretty near anyone who posts on this forum and I have yet to come across a conservative blog claiming gays are trying to take over the US, or who call Obama Osama.

As for Lefties being "in bed" with crazy islamic terrorists, it is patently obvious that many on the Left root for terrorists over the West. I don't know if it's fair to categorize that rooting as "being in bed with", but I'm unsure how many conservative blogs actually categorize the Left's relationship with terrorists in those words anyway.



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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: Seuss]
    #7858298 - 01/10/08 09:18 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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atheism doesnt have any set beliefs on anything. espcially not the purpose of the universe. also atheism has no set moral code. so, nope!




Which is a belief.  Like it or not, atheism is the belief that there is no creator.  Being atheist is no different, from a belief based upon faith standpoint, than religion.  Neither side has proof that they are correct.  Both sides use various forms of hand waving to prove that they are correct.  Both sides base their correctness upon unprovable faith.  Atheism is based upon faith, which is the basis of most religions, thus atheism, in a way, is a religion of faith.

> 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe

Yep.  Atheism is a belief (a set can contain one item) that the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe is not controlled by some godlike figure.

> 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons

Yep.  Atheism is a fundamental belief (that there is no godlike figurehead) generally agreed upon by a number of persons.

> 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices

Yep.  Atheism is a belief (again, sets can contain one item) with a practice of not following religious like ceremonies.

The only real difference between atheism and most religion is organization.

> 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion

Nope.  No organized atheist monks, nuns, etc trying to spread atheism to the masses.

>  the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

Nope.  No organized rituals to observe the faith.

... etc ...

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I know the talkshows sure seem alot more angry and mean (conservative vs. liberal) on the radio, back when we had liberal radio in these parts

But the liberals have plenty of nutjobs on the fringes too, but I hear ya... w/ alot of conservatives they just seem pissy about everything...




I don't really see that much difference between the two groups.  Is Rush really that different from Alex?  I don't listen to either of them, but from what I read from time to time, they both seem to be full of hot air.

It is interesting that the moral conservatives seem to have a lot of hate.  Is this real, or a bias in observation?  Is the hate that Al Sharpton spews any different than that hate that O'Reilly spews?  Are there more O'Reillys than Sharptons in the public eye?




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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: Phred]
    #7858305 - 01/10/08 09:19 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Care to name some of these conservative blogs? My guess is I regularly read more blogs (conservative and liberal both) than pretty near anyone who posts on this forum and I have yet to come across a conservative blog claiming gays are trying to take over the US, or who call Obama Osama.

As for Lefties being "in bed" with crazy islamic terrorists, it is patently obvious that many on the Left root for terrorists over the West. I don't know if it's fair to categorize that rooting as "being in bed with", but I'm unsure how many conservative blogs actually categorize the Left's relationship with terrorists in those words anyway.



Phred




Michael Savage calls Obama, Osama. He is the only one I have heard do this though, and he is pretty ridiculous most of the time so...


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: Phred]
    #7858507 - 01/10/08 10:19 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I was curious to know the blogs as well. Angry lunacy seems to be much more a feature of the left (Daily Kos, Huffington's post; see how easy it is to cite examples). So, KOTT, let's have them. Or is this just going to be your usual blowing it out your ass routine?


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: Syle]
    #7858517 - 01/10/08 10:21 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Michael Savage has a blog?



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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: Syle]
    #7858525 - 01/10/08 10:23 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Syle said:
Quote:

Seuss said:
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atheism doesnt have any set beliefs on anything. espcially not the purpose of the universe. also atheism has no set moral code. so, nope!




Which is a belief.  Like it or not, atheism is the belief that there is no creator.  Being atheist is no different, from a belief based upon faith standpoint, than religion.  Neither side has proof that they are correct.  Both sides use various forms of hand waving to prove that they are correct.  Both sides base their correctness upon unprovable faith.  Atheism is based upon faith, which is the basis of most religions, thus atheism, in a way, is a religion of faith.

> 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe

Yep.  Atheism is a belief (a set can contain one item) that the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe is not controlled by some godlike figure.

> 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons

Yep.  Atheism is a fundamental belief (that there is no godlike figurehead) generally agreed upon by a number of persons.

> 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices

Yep.  Atheism is a belief (again, sets can contain one item) with a practice of not following religious like ceremonies.

The only real difference between atheism and most religion is organization.

> 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion

Nope.  No organized atheist monks, nuns, etc trying to spread atheism to the masses.

>  the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

Nope.  No organized rituals to observe the faith.

... etc ...

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I know the talkshows sure seem alot more angry and mean (conservative vs. liberal) on the radio, back when we had liberal radio in these parts

But the liberals have plenty of nutjobs on the fringes too, but I hear ya... w/ alot of conservatives they just seem pissy about everything...




I don't really see that much difference between the two groups.  Is Rush really that different from Alex?  I don't listen to either of them, but from what I read from time to time, they both seem to be full of hot air.

It is interesting that the moral conservatives seem to have a lot of hate.  Is this real, or a bias in observation?  Is the hate that Al Sharpton spews any different than that hate that O'Reilly spews?  Are there more O'Reillys than Sharptons in the public eye?




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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7858581 - 01/10/08 10:36 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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KingOftheThing said:

a lot of conservative blogs are really angry

first i read all these crazy conspriacy theories they espouse about gays trying to "Takeover" the US.. then they try to pretend somehow the left is in bed with crazy islamic terrorists. even though the islamic terrorist and govts are by definition conservative. most of these blogs all think its really funny to call obama, "osama".....




kott when you start these posts are you drunk? or do you just get drunk on your own words......


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: Syle]
    #7858714 - 01/10/08 11:03 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Michael Savage is an unhinged lunatic. Plus, he gives interviews to people that have seen aliens humping Hillary. Art Bell was another class act in the 90's. I don't know if he is still broadcasting from his bunker or if the guys in the black helicopters got him.  :tinfoil:  :shiftyeyes:  :tinfoil:


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: Phred]
    #7859564 - 01/10/08 01:40 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

one blog is www.moonbattery.com

also for you to say many on the left root for the terrorists over the west. is unfounded, and absolutely the stupidest thing you have ever said. I almost thought you were above such ridiculous stupidity. In this country anyone I know on the left cant stand religious conservatives. We dont like Islamic religious conservatives or homegrown Christian lunatic conservatives. At least right now the Christian is right is less conservative than the Muslims (which they would change if they could, hear them say it in their own words in the movie; "Jesus Camp"). On the left we always like to see the least conservative group triumph. Right now that happens to be the people in charge of our country.


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: Phred]
    #7859612 - 01/10/08 01:49 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

another one is http://www.freerepublic.com/

guy who isnt an american and has never been is sitting in the dominican republic.. owning and running a sweatshop... thinks he can make judgments like that about people in america


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7859650 - 01/10/08 01:55 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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We dont like Islamic religious conservatives or homegrown Christian lunatic conservatives.




speaking of lunatic Christians have you checked out Obamas Christian racist church???

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm


"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

Commitment to God Commitment to the Black Community Commitment to the Black Family Dedication to the Pursuit of Education Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence Adherence to the Black Work Ethic Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness" Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System. The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION. A congregation preaching SALVATION. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA. A congregation committed to LIBERATION. A congregation committed to RESTORATION. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.


obama goes to this Church and is a Presidential Candidate???


Replace Obama with an all-white candidate and change all the instances of the word "black" on this webpage to "white" and we have a candidate that couldn't get elected dogcatcher in any community in America.


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7859727 - 01/10/08 02:07 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Lone said: Replace Obama with an all-white candidate and change all the instances of the word "black" on this webpage to "white" and we have a candidate that couldn't get elected dogcatcher in any community in America.




I did just that in the following and yup, Obama is a racist/black supremest if he goes to that church!!!

read it now-


"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a European people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of modern civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of immigration, the days of industrialism, and the long night of corporatism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the White Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These White Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Whites are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

Commitment to God Commitment to the White Community Commitment to the White Family Dedication to the Pursuit of Education Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence Adherence to the White Work Ethic Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness" Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System. The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION. A congregation preaching SALVATION. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO EUROPE. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF EUROPEAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA. A congregation committed to LIBERATION. A congregation committed to RESTORATION. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #7859797 - 01/10/08 02:19 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I've never heard of moonbattery and freerepublic is one I have heard of but only when cited by leftards. I believe their fans are called freepers. Anyway, where's the anger? I scrolled through a few posts and didn't see any particular vituperativeness or high dudgeon.


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7859865 - 01/10/08 02:30 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

I did see this at freerepublic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951619/posts

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Evidently Chuck Schumer isn't the ratings magnet Savage thought he was. I wonder if Savage is contributing to Democratic campaigns again, like he did with Jerry Brown when he gave him over $5,000.




I don't think they much care for Michael Savage over there, Syle.

So, KOTT, you said they were angry. Like they said in the movie, "Show me the anger!"


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Re: a lot of conservative blogs are really angry [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7859940 - 01/10/08 02:44 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

i don't really read conservative blogs, but on the radio, michael savage (who I generally like) and Oreiliy do seem to be pissy quite a bit, denouncing the gays, the liberals, its all a liberal conspiracy, et cet.

From when this area had liberal talk radio, they seemed much nicer and certainly less concerned w/ a person's private affairs.

But whatever, doesn't really matter anyways, just saying on the radio I definatly hear the conservatives (and the callers) to be angry and having an "us against them" mentality.


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