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zorbman
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Re: moving off the grid [Re: dr_gonz]
#7856147 - 01/09/08 09:10 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Absolutely. Self-sufficiency= key in the looming recession>depression.
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PyroBurns
душа кофе


Registered: 10/14/07
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Re: moving off the grid [Re: zorbman]
#7856182 - 01/09/08 09:18 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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I plan on it.
Not because I hate society (though I have LOTS and LOTS of problems with it.) but because I see no need for all the things I'm "paying" for right now.
I don't need to work 40 hours a week so I can pay for a car that will take me to that job, hormone laced meat that I can get for free and with no hormones in the wild, and a boring square shaped apartment that only serves for me to sleep in between work shifts.
Again, I have no problems with people. I'm just a primitive at heart, and have little interest in material goods.
I also believe to be truely free you HAVE to be independant. No sitting around for Mr. Repairman, or hoping they fix the power plant, or starving because the local grocery store got blown up. It would also be ideal to do things on your own time and not be scared about being late at work all the time.
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Edited by PyroBurns (01/09/08 09:20 PM)
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machination
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Registered: 09/17/07
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Loc: Hringhorni
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Re: moving off the grid [Re: dr_gonz]
#7857933 - 01/10/08 07:21 AM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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i own antarctica, so fuck off even thinking about claiming any territory there.. the deserts of the american southwes are mine as well
seriously, you can move off the grid anywhere theres like a 1/2-1 acre of forest if ytou go underground with the moles and then when the tree killers come u must defend the forest like the loraxian gorillas
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azurite
4got10horse

Registered: 03/18/07
Posts: 173
Loc: oregon coast range
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Re: moving off the grid [Re: dr_gonz]
#7858481 - 01/10/08 10:14 AM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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i own an off grid farm except for the phone line. i use a 15k diesel generator to charge 12 8d agm batteries. we use around 5 gallons biodiesel/diesel daily to do the charging. the charging lasts for about 8 hours and then we let the batteries drain low until the next charge. it's pretty expensive but we have all and more than enough electricity to do evrything anyone else can do. we have washer/dryer, irrigation pump, house water pump, lights, electric oven/stove, refridgerator/freezer, indoor plumbing. our heat comes from an outdoor wood furnace that pumps hot water to our water heater and exchanges the heat. it also heats our house, greenhouses, barn, tool/biodiesel production shed. the worst thing about the farm is that someone has to almost always be here to maintain it all. it also takes alot of time. having said all of that, i would probably do it again, but make sure you have enough money to do it and learn to do it yourself as i did. i had to learn electrical installation by myself, but it wasn't that hard. we are a certified organic farm too and sell produce and berries around the eugene area. you're more than welcome to come visit the farm if you like or do some volunteer work in the summer months to see how you like it.
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demiu5
humans, lol


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Re: moving off the grid [Re: azurite]
#7858792 - 01/10/08 11:16 AM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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that's a sweet set-up
are y'all a part of wwoof?
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machination
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Re: moving off the grid [Re: azurite]
#7858806 - 01/10/08 11:19 AM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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how much volunteer work for popping up tipi on your farm per day though hmm i'el work for fruits n veggies
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azurite
4got10horse

Registered: 03/18/07
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Loc: oregon coast range
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Re: moving off the grid [Re: demiu5]
#7859046 - 01/10/08 12:00 PM (16 years, 22 days ago) |
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i'm not even sure who wwoof is. i'll google them though. we're on our own and we've been farming for only four years. we are tzolkin farm, you may have seen us at the eugene saturday market. we were only there a few times last year though since i was building a large 20'x40' greenhouse and wanted to get it done by winter. did i mention we have a small woodmizer sawmill that we make all of our own lumber with? we don't even have to cut trees. we just go out and get the logs off the roads after wind/snowstorms. we had a volunteer this last summer and we were going to build him a cottage but never got to it because of the greenhouse. the plan is to build an intentional community here or sell it. i'm trying to do both, but whichever comes first. it's way too much work for myself but i love doing it.
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azurite
4got10horse

Registered: 03/18/07
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Loc: oregon coast range
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yeah, there's already a tipi set up although it's starting to decay along the bottom where it touches the ground. we don't take it down and noone stays in it in the winter. it can sleep 2 people or possibly more. with some dedicateed love and work it could be nice again though. you could put up something else too if you have it. there is plenty of produce when it's in for volunteers and to sell. we usually start the season in may/june with ripe brocoli and strawberries and end it in october with tomatoes,corn,berries,etc. with the new greenhouse we should be able to extend the season too.
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