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Misting Question
#7854181 - 01/09/08 03:04 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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when your casing is in the FC and before the pins start i know u can directly mist it. but when the pin heads start do u just spray around them? or directly on the hole casing like in the begining?
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Re: Misting Question [Re: Supplier]
#7854191 - 01/09/08 03:07 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Don't spray the pins, they will abort. You should be misting your casing to provide proper moisture before pinning starts. If pinning does start and you don't think you have the proper moisture content then you can mist in betweeen pins but not directly.
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Re: Misting Question [Re: Supplier]
#7854200 - 01/09/08 03:08 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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The only time that misting is disputed to cause an increase of the rate of aborts is during the hyphal knot and primordia phase. At any other moment (pins, fruiting, between flushes, before the first flush...) mist as usual. During that fase, if you mist make sure you fan well afterwards so there is no standing water left.
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Re: Misting Question [Re: Mycodood]
#7854201 - 01/09/08 03:08 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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ok thats what i thought but wasn't sure. and if the moister content is right the humidity will keep it moist correct?
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Misting Question [Re: Supplier]
#7854202 - 01/09/08 03:08 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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This was cleared up nicely earlier this weak by Roger.
Mycelium will pin best at or near saturation humidity and plenty of fresh air, whether the substrate is cased or not. A casing layer simply helps to hold humidity high right at the surface, under less than ideal ambient conditions. Of course, once pins form, the casing layer also helps to supply the substrate below with moisture, so you want to keep the humidity high to prevent the casing layer from drying out too much between misting. RR
Droplets on your pins will not cause aborts. It's recommended to mist mushrooms. Air exchange must be provided because stagnant water sitting on a mushroom in stagnant air for an extended period WILL cause aborts.
92% humidity will be fine with a good casing layer. I prefer higher, but lower will also still work, only requiring more frequent misting. RR
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ok thank you. all of u. and hey look at that i actually posted and got answer without some telling me to search or bust my balls
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Re: Misting Question [Re: Supplier]
#7854283 - 01/09/08 03:26 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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I have always sprayed the hell out of casing layers, cakes, pins and even the mushrooms. I have only seen aborts on the 3rd or 4th flush of a substrate when it's nearing time to be tossed....
I dunno where this info stems from about not misting pins/mycelium.
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Captain Cubensis
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Re: Misting Question [Re: Fraggin]
#7854332 - 01/09/08 03:35 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Fraggin said: I have always sprayed the hell out of casing layers, cakes, pins and even the mushrooms. I have only seen aborts on the 3rd or 4th flush of a substrate when it's nearing time to be tossed....
I dunno where this info stems from about not misting pins/mycelium.
What substrate do you use? Casing?
I think you might have misunderstood Roger, as I did at first, he say by all means mist, but there must be FAE for the water to evaporate a little so stagnant air and water don't sit around your pins.
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Stagnant air is bad to begin with. I've just never really worried about misting.
I've misted all substrate types and casing layer types without prejudice.
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Re: Misting Question [Re: Fraggin]
#7854393 - 01/09/08 03:45 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Prolly cause you practice good FAE teks.
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verminute
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...And we all can assume you know your shit and keep a clean work area! 
The report from RR is not theory, it's actually research, and as we all know research doesn't always give %100 factually outcome, variables are always in the mix...
For instance, the climate you live in, or the placement of your living area, near water? Apartment not on the first floor, e.g. gets more warmth... Just my two cents.
Edited by verminute (01/09/08 04:00 PM)
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Re: Misting Question [Re: Supplier]
#7854924 - 01/09/08 05:19 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
Supplier said: ok thank you. all of u. and hey look at that i actually posted and got answer without some telling me to search or bust my balls
That is because you are learning to make proper questions
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Re: Misting Question [Re: Nibin]
#7856319 - 01/09/08 09:43 PM (16 years, 23 days ago) |
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haha i know i am. but anyway im going to have my caseing/cakes in a 50 gallon glass aquarium tank. which im also thinking about getting a cool mist and run the tube from it into the tank to keep the humidity up along with the perlite. so i think i won't have to worry that much about misting prolly just FAE now. correct?
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