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OfflineCokedUpHobit64
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Feel like a shit sandwhich
    #7853836 - 01/09/08 01:58 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Due to ADHD medication. These things are such a double edged sword. At first, when the pill kicks in, I feel great and very focused. Its worked wonders for me academically, but I've recently stopped with them due to the shitty side effects. First of all i have to constantly poo and pee when I'm on these things. My appetite is completely lost. And the comedown is shit. All my problems constantly race through my head, an theirs no relief to find in sleep. After taking them for awhile its like slowly disconnecting from reality and becoming a zombie.Ugh. :banghead:


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
    #7853847 - 01/09/08 02:00 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Stop taking it?


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: Shroomism]
    #7853867 - 01/09/08 02:04 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

take less of it or find a different one with less side effects..


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7854026 - 01/09/08 02:35 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

I took ritalin the other day and it totally tweaked me out. I couldn't sleep and even the next day I felt pretty twitchy.

I used to be prescribed adderall and I just kind of stopped taking it because I didn't like the side effects (no appetite, too much weight loss, pissing too much, and all that)

They give that stuff to kids as young as three but they demonize other amphetamines that essentially act the same way on the body.

Fucked.


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
    #7854143 - 01/09/08 02:57 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

i have problems too (with adderall), but i don't take it for ADD/ ADHD. amphetamines suck, but i can't take the only other alternative (provigil) cause it'll deactivate my birth control.. i always get all kinds of anxious and forget to eat all day, which doesn't help that i have an eating disorder in the first place..

the only thing i can really do to counter the bad effects is smoke pot (i got it prescribed here partly cause of this) or take a half or 3/4 of a pill when i think that a full one is gonna be too much.. ive taken a valium before when i got panic attacks from it later on at night, but almost never, cause i dont want to end up like the mom in requiem for a dream..


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7854149 - 01/09/08 02:57 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Yeah man its definitely weird that poeple advocate this stuff so much, considering its like meth in a pill. I pretty much only take it when I have big tests coming up, like this week I had exams. I wish their was some alternative.


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
    #7854197 - 01/09/08 03:07 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Crack cocaine.


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: Lyena]
    #7854212 - 01/09/08 03:10 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

Lyena said:
i have problems too (with adderall), but i don't take it for ADD/ ADHD. amphetamines suck, but i can't take the only other alternative (provigil) cause it'll deactivate my birth control.. i always get all kinds of anxious and forget to eat all day, which doesn't help that i have an eating disorder in the first place..
...i got panic attacks from it later on at night, but almost never, cause i dont want to end up like the mom in requiem for a dream..




It sounds like you need to at least cut back if not stop for a while. It really sounds like you're having a sucky time of things.

...Adderall made me grind my canines flat in my sleep.


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7854324 - 01/09/08 03:34 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

i'm just grinding my teeth flat during the day with this. i already was before with stress and stuff, now its just even crazier

but if i stop, my life goes into this haze where i'm doing things while basically asleep and i lose important stuff like credit cards, or i drive while asleep (though ive never made a mistake).. i act normally but with no recollection of anything later at all

if it was add, i'd probably choose that over this. but the sleep disorder makes waking life like one big dream that melts in and out with sleep. i'm thinking about trying another option they offered me (xyrem) which is GHB, dosed every night... supposed to help a lot with this, but its SO expensive..

not trying to jack this guys thread though


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: Lyena]
    #7854427 - 01/09/08 03:50 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Yeah and you said you can't take Provigil because of birth control... I dunno taking uppers all day and ending with a downer doesn't sound to great, but you might need it to sleep by then.

When I was on adderall, I had insomnia like a motherfucker and would fall asleep in my morning classes if I didn't take my stuff. Getting off it helped normalize my sleep schedule and learn to regulate my own body.

(Not that I have a normal sleep schedule anymore... I went to bed at seven this morning and got up at one something)

I assume you have narcolepsy or sleep apnea?

I guess the other option would be to switch to a different form of birth control and try provigil, though I dunno even how that compares to ritalin or adderall for side effects.

Sounds like you've got a rough situation. :frown:


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7854601 - 01/09/08 04:16 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

yeah, its narcolepsy. i had a polysomnography and everything to figure this shit out. it wasn't too obvious to anyone cause i've never just passed out before, and thats what everyone expects it to be.

i really like being on the birth control pills ive been on too, for like 5 years, and i've heard almost all the safe ones (ie less chance of heart attack/death/stroke) are progesterone based like the one i'm on now. provigil blocks the exact same pathway in my liver that i need the progesterone to get through.

its crazy to talk to these doctors anyway, they prescribed me provigil without a second glance and knew i was on birth control... right before i started it i got really concerned about it and read crazy in depth on it and found out about the interaction. i told my doctor and when he went to some big conference of doctors on it, he asked everyone and almost all of them had never heard of that particular interaction except for the one who explained why.

not that i'm expecting a bunch of neurologists to know a whole lot about birth control pills, but still. pregnancy would have been bad consequences. i guess birth control shot or iud is an option too. provigil still scares me a little, its a relatively new drug. and my mom (also narcoleptic) can go through a whole months bottle (150$ copay) in a week and swears it barely does anything. i get adderall for 20 bucks for the whole month. i live on totally ghetto wages so that part is de-motivating

i remember seeing some post around here about the military using an inhaled form of orexin to stay up without needing to sleep... thats the shit i really need to get my hands on.. the exact chemical my brain is missing.


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Re: Feel like a shit sandwhich [Re: Lyena]
    #7854636 - 01/09/08 04:22 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

yeah adderall is really, really harsh on the comedown. i took some on NYE and the next morning was just rough..and all next day


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