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am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose
    #7852729 - 01/09/08 09:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

cause I'm noticing a sort of trend where people will take a gram or two / wait for it to kick in / take a little more / see how that dose works / enjoy the glossolalia for awhile / trip for a bit / throw back another gram on the come down / convince themselves that they're still going / and eventually just switch to some other drug, and finish off the night with whatever else it is that they're doing

which brings me to another observance - a lot of people tend to like to mix drugs too
(which is all well an good I suppose...sometimes I just think maybe Ima dying breed here)



am I the only one left that likes to take gargantuan doses, and just fucken zone out  :what:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852734 - 01/09/08 09:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Go big or go home. I hate redosing.

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: DiabloSmurf]
    #7852797 - 01/09/08 09:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I like to go big and then go bigger just when it feels like that's the last thing I should do.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852804 - 01/09/08 09:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

droogs are so out

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Robo]
    #7852806 - 01/09/08 09:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

but not really

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Ziggen]
    #7852816 - 01/09/08 09:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I like to go big and then go bigger just when it feels like that's the last thing I should do.



see...that tells me that you really didn't go *that* big in the first place  :smirk:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852822 - 01/09/08 09:41 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I like to go big and then go bigger just when it feels like that's the last thing I should do.



see...that tells me that you really didn't go *that* big in the first place  :smirk:




He might be onto something...



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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852827 - 01/09/08 09:42 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

like me, for example, I generally buy myself one of these babies and whatever I get outta a flush - that's what I take



I dunno how many grams it is, but gawd...damn  :oogle:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852837 - 01/09/08 09:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

You like going out there man, Thats def something i enjoy. Only when I'm at a festival do i take a dose of that proportion. 2 years ago i was at grateful fest here in Ohio, there i consumed a half ounce of cubes. Greatest time of my life.

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: DiabloSmurf]
    #7852839 - 01/09/08 09:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like an average dose of 4 g. the a re-dose of 6 is sufficient to label it big and bigger. Just me though.

The key to re-dosing, in my never humble opinion, is to take more than you originally took whilst peaking to effectively extend one's trip.

Edited to add that what you described
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people will take a gram or two / wait for it to kick in / take a little more / see how that dose works / enjoy the glossolalia for awhile / trip for a bit / throw back another gram on the come down / convince themselves that they're still going



is bullshit, and a waste of fungus to boot.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Ziggen]
    #7852848 - 01/09/08 09:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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The key to re-dosing, in my never humble opinion, is to take more than you originally took whilst peaking to effectively extend one's trip.



there may be some truth to that  :yesnod:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852860 - 01/09/08 09:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I never re-dose. Don't always have to get ego loss/death for it to be a good trip.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: jewunit]
    #7852878 - 01/09/08 09:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Sheeee-it. If I want full-on ego loss I have to go bigger than that.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: jewunit]
    #7852880 - 01/09/08 10:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not a re-doser either..... I choose a dose which i think will be good for a particular occasion and thats what i stick with.

The only exception for me is festivals, in which case i like to be tripping almost constantly. But even then i don't usually re-dose the same drug, i boost with another substance such as an eighth of shrooms and then three hours later 3-4 tabs of acid.

Normally when i trip i don't mix in other psychedelics besides weed. I know some people feel it clouds a trip but for me it's like peanut butter and jelly, i very rarely trip without smoking weed. On mushrooms particularly i need a nice heavy smoke session during the come-up to chill myself out and get into the groove.

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: jewunit]
    #7852881 - 01/09/08 10:00 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

oh, no doubt...all I'm saying is if you're gonna take X number of grams throughout the night anyway - why do you stretch it out over the corse of the night, and only feel a little glimpse of what you could have felt had you taken it all at once

I just don't understand that whole mentality  :shrug:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852884 - 01/09/08 10:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

take a gram or two? Mushrooms u must be talking about?

Surely thats a wise way of doing it? Some people get really fucked up on a gram or 2 so they then don't take more and don't lose the plot either.

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Ego Death]
    #7852888 - 01/09/08 10:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Ha sometimes i need to lose the plot a little bit.....

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Ego Death]
    #7852890 - 01/09/08 10:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I seriously doubt the people that can only handle a gram or two are gonna keep re-dosing all night long though  :rolleyes:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852898 - 01/09/08 10:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I think he misunderstood what you were saying.

...I hope he did at least.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852909 - 01/09/08 10:07 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i like drugs. :yesnod:

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852916 - 01/09/08 10:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Most of the time I don't feel the desire for a full on level 5.  A nice 3.5 is usually sufficient.  Re-dosing is a means of effectively extending that 3.5.

The amount I go through isn't really an issue for me, as is the case for many members here I would presume.  :tongue:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: jewunit]
    #7852918 - 01/09/08 10:09 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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...I hope he did at least.



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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852931 - 01/09/08 10:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

their pussies and afraid to trip to hard but are still seeking the acceptance from their friends?


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852933 - 01/09/08 10:14 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

with mushrooms...one dose


with lsd, :lol:, let's just say it's not entirely uncommon for me to start with 3-6 hits, then eat another 5-10 12 hours later, then another 5-10 12 hours later.  longest i've ever stayed up dosing was 3 days (well, i stopped dosing at the second and a half day, but i was tripping into the third day)...especially at a fest


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: demiu5]
    #7852943 - 01/09/08 10:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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with mushrooms...one dose


with meth, :lol:, let's just say it's not entirely uncommon for me to start with 3-6 grams, then smoke another 5-10 12 hours later, then another 5-10 12 hours later.  longest i've ever stayed up tweaking was 3 weeks (well, i stopped smoking at the second and a half week, but i was tweaking into the third week)...especially at a trailer park fest




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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7852957 - 01/09/08 10:21 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I never redose, regardless of whether I am going to take a lot, or a little. My last trip I only had minimal shrooms but it was a good trip, also I have only ever done shrooms I have grown so I know the potency and what I can expect.

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: jewunit]
    #7852960 - 01/09/08 10:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

meth, lol


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: maggotz]
    #7853383 - 01/09/08 12:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Best policy is to just eat the whole bag or randomly stuff a bunch in your mouth..

That way you don't know how much or what to expect, you jsut get all goofy and have fun tripping..

Also if it was hella lot, then theres no turning back and you mise well have fun lol

But re-dosing is something I don't do simply because your body builds a temporary resistance to psilocin/psilocybin which makes re-dosing less effective as if you were to take it all at once..

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Brain Fart]
    #7853403 - 01/09/08 12:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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But re-dosing is something I don't do simply because your body builds a temporary resistance to psilocin/psilocybin which makes re-dosing less effective as if you were to take it all at once.



egg-zactly  :yesnod:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7853418 - 01/09/08 12:41 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That is the rationale on it that I always use. After growing for 10 months, My first trip was off a high dose (scale was fucked, maybe 4 grams) and lasted 9-10 hours.

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7853423 - 01/09/08 12:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i don't like redosing. i choose my drug and choose my dosage and take it.

i'd usually mix weed into most situations. other mixing... not my thing either.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: SapphireCat]
    #7853654 - 01/09/08 01:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Redosing ain't for me neither.

I always think through how hard I want to trip and how much is need to achieve such effects and just take the dose. Once I've reached the wanted level taking more just feels irrelevant.

I've never been to a festival of the kind though. I sure try to attend one this summer and there my views on the subject might easily change. But until then no redosing for me. :smile:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Individual]
    #7854114 - 01/09/08 02:50 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I don't re-dose.

By the time I am starting to come down I am ready for it to stop!


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: mushbaby]
    #7854166 - 01/09/08 03:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'll usually have a target level I'm shooting for and if I reach it, fuck yeah, if not then I'll take more but at the peak of the trip .
Adding on to a peak is good, but after that it's about half as effective as if I'd taken it sober.

And if I take more than enough, so be it, I'm having more than I expected for my money.

For the "other substances" issue, if I take something else I'm usually going for a synergistic effect. It's no fun to start a night with a mellow trip and end it eleven the next morning tweaking my ass off.

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7854535 - 01/09/08 04:03 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i get antsy always before i dose so taking it all at once is best for me

other wise i feel its gonna  be like "i can handle this" chomp chomp chomp *hyperspace* :tunnel:

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Konyap]
    #7854883 - 01/09/08 05:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

If I'm in the tripping mood, which I always am, when I can, I eat the normal dose and then more then BAM!

I think with redosing, it is a manner of asking:

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7855041 - 01/09/08 05:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

if you have to re-dose you didnt do it right the first time. just eat like 6 grams right off the bat and enjoy the ride.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: mycopsycho]
    #7855475 - 01/09/08 07:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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if you have to re-dose you didnt do it right the first time. just eat like 6 grams right off the bat and enjoy the ride.




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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Konyap]
    #7855551 - 01/09/08 07:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

an eighth is good, depending on potency. usually a decent, full on trip. you get a little bit of everything.

but when the times are right i like to go above the 3.5g mark. usually i'll go for around 5gs when i have the the perfect setting in which to trip. i've done a quarter a few times as well, which was very interesting to say the least.

that said my most powerful trip on mushrooms ever was on an eighth of cubes, either they were really potent or i just really dove into the trip. but what im saying is dosing higher doesn't automatically equal a more powerful trip.

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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: mycopsycho]
    #7858348 - 01/10/08 09:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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if you have to re-dose you didnt do it right the first time.




Some people re-dose to lengthen the trip. What's wrong with that?


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7858392 - 01/10/08 09:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Some people re-dose to lengthen the trip.  What's wrong with that?



eh...they shoulda just gone with something that lasts longer to begin with then  :shrug:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7858415 - 01/10/08 09:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Some people re-dose to lengthen the trip.  What's wrong with that?



eh...they shoulda just gone with something that lasts longer to begin with then  :shrug: 




Sometimes you just have to work with what you have.

If you have an abundance of mushrooms, but no LSD, and you want an LSD length trip, the only thing to do is re-dose.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7858418 - 01/10/08 09:59 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

first off i think some of you guys are crazy. i've not been able to see reality off of 2.5 grams of cubes at least once. i've never done more than an eigth (in one sitting) and can't imagine what a quarter ounce would be like. so maybe i'm a pussy here...

but i redose and mix drugs instead of just doing one large dose because i don't like a hard comeup and a pushy trip. it shocks my nervous system and puts me out of control of myself and that makes me nervous.

if i take 12 hours to do all the drugs i'm going to do, its like slowly warming bath water instead of just jumping into a scalding shower, i can get much higher much more comfortably.

also mixing drugs is good because you can figure out exactly what your trip needs at the moment and then do just enough to change your trip the way you wanted it to be changed.

edit: my basic plan was do enough of something that after the initial comeup i'm still capable of being bored. once i get bored then i do another drug in a similar dose range, wait an hour till i get used to it then do another drug, or do more of the first drug, wait and hour... and repeat. the end result is you get pretty high but since there is no big shock the whole thing is much easier on your brain, and you're much more in control of your trip since you're guiding it up and down hour by hour.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7858431 - 01/10/08 10:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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first off i think some of you guys are crazy. i've not been able to see reality off of 2.5 grams of cubes at least once. i've never done more than an eigth (in one sitting) and can't imagine what a quarter ounce would be like. so maybe i'm a pussy here...





Some people are more sensitive than others. An eighth is a heavy trip for me... seems to be a typical dose for many.

I can't imagine taking a quarter either.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7858491 - 01/10/08 10:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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also mixing drugs is good because you can figure out exactly what your trip needs at the moment and then do just enough to change your trip the way you wanted it to be changed.

edit: my basic plan was do enough of something that after the initial comeup i'm still capable of being bored.  once i get bored then i do another drug in a similar dose range, wait an hour till i get used to it then do another drug, or do more of the first drug, wait and hour... and repeat.  the end result is you get pretty high but since there is no big shock the whole thing is much easier on your brain, and you're much more in control of your trip since you're guiding it up and down hour by hour. 



see, I'm just the opposite...I don't like the idea of trying to 'control' my trip - I want the drug to control me  :muppet:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7858495 - 01/10/08 10:17 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Depends on the substance.
With mushrooms I like to trip hard or trip not at all. So it's not uncommon for me to dose 4-5 grams. I like to go all the way. But then again I trip what, like once or twice a year nowadays. I found for me personally, taking mushrooms too frequently was bad juju. And by too frequently I mean like twice in a week, hell even twice in a month. They call them sacred shrooms, I tend to agree.

Other substances though, I don't feel the same way. Take LSD for example. I abused the fuck out of that. Friends and I used to go on week long binges of just dropping god only knows how many hits over the course of a few days. ungodly amounts that's for sure though. It was fun though.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Shroomism]
    #7858522 - 01/10/08 10:23 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

that's basically how I feel about it too...oddly enough  :what:



except for me - all psychedelics in general are the 'sacred' ones that I only do a few times throughout the year...whereas I'll take the fuck outta something like poppy tea  :smirk:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7858546 - 01/10/08 10:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well... I'm not sure I feel that way about it anymore. Those were my crazier years. I haven't taken ANY psychedelics (unless you count weed..) in at least 8 or 9 months. My LSD experiences over the past few years have been pretty spaced out. Not sure I could handle something like that anymore. (Tripping for 3 weeks straight)


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Shroomism]
    #7858574 - 01/10/08 10:34 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah same here, haven't done drugs in two years. having calmed down i'm not sure i want to be a skilled drug user again, i like my placid mind.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Shroomism]
    #7858580 - 01/10/08 10:36 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

yeah...I tried the whole 'continuous tripping' route myself for a while there (back when I had a fucken grip of HBWR to work with) but like terence mckenna once said: "you will quickly become distant from all those around you" and that one was so very very true indeed  :smirk:


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: Muppet]
    #7858618 - 01/10/08 10:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you know muppet, i just wanted to say i've been aware of your existence for a couple years, but i always thought you were just some OTD asshole. lately i've been actually reading your posts and you seem like a pretty cool guy.


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Re: am I the only one here that DOESN'T re-dose [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7858679 - 01/10/08 10:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

oh, I go through my asshole phases no doubt...but generally I try to contribute to this site as much as I can



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