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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fastfred]
    #7856789 - 01/10/08 12:59 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, and Pickard ratted out a few other people before he got busted. Fuck Pickard, I hope that asshole dies in prison. I loved eating his acid, but you snitch on someone you shouldn't walk away from it. This is karma for him snitching, not for him making LSD.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: GigaHurtz1]
    #7856885 - 01/10/08 01:12 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i completely agree with you guys, it was a ridiculous punishment (but who honestly thought he would get away with that) and he should be free. but people should really be aware that LSD isnt "the most healthy chemical anyone can ingest, with no adverse effects".

take leary for example. he was a brilliant mind before he began experimenting with psilocybin, etc., not that he wasnt after, but after he got deep into acid (and got out of jail), if you heard him speak and saw the look in his eyes, you could tell there was something seriously wrong with him.

check out any youtube videos of him. after the 60s, he was still a brilliant person and had a great deal of wisdom, but there was clearly something wrong with his brain.

i for one dont contest that acid is completely safe. it sure kicks ass though.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fapjack]
    #7857593 - 01/10/08 04:12 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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fapjack said:
Yeah, and Pickard ratted out a few other people before he got busted. Fuck Pickard, I hope that asshole dies in prison. I loved eating his acid, but you snitch on someone you shouldn't walk away from it. This is karma for him snitching, not for him making LSD.




WTF are you talking about? You better have some sources because people who accuse people of narcing are just as bad as narcs.

If you make up shit like that you get put in a hole just the same as a narc.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fastfred]
    #7857636 - 01/10/08 04:49 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

so whats the consensus on neurosoup/KAC?
i seem to be ill-informed
and i had b=never heard of any narking by pickard
only K and the other dude


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: catfish]
    #7857949 - 01/10/08 09:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/2003/sanfran112403.html
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Further trial evidence established that in the history of DEA there have only been four seizures of complete LSD labs and three of these seizures involved Pickard and Apperson including a lab in Mountainview, California in 1998, a lab in Oregon in 1996, and this lab in Wamego, Kansas.




He testified both times, I would have to read through the DEA site to get specifics. Also, Chinacat talked about it as well in his LSD thread in ODD I believe. Its not all that big of a secret, if you read all the DEA articles about Pickard since he was arrested you would have read about it.

Actually, I just found a link that gives a bit more info.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2000/12/07/MN154990.DTL
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Pickard and Apperson are longtime clandestine chemists, according to the affidavit. In 1988, Pickard was arrested by Mountain View police for making LSD, but the charge was dropped because he had been an informant for both the California Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement and the DEA, it says.





I hope all of you now realize that Pickard was a piece of shit that would sell his own people down the river to save his own ass. Rot in prison you piece of shit.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: learningtofly]
    #7858062 - 01/10/08 10:04 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fapjack]
    #7858074 - 01/10/08 10:08 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4971211

Your claims seem pretty vague and unsubstantiated. If he ratted somebody out then who was it? What did they get charged with?

Vague news stories are not proof of anything. If there was any sort of verifiable fact included in it I might tend to believe, but I haven't found anything.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: learningtofly]
    #7858422 - 01/10/08 12:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I get this mental image of a raver with one of those backpack decon sprayers on hopping around blasting crowds of people with showers of LSD.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fastfred]
    #7858737 - 01/10/08 01:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I swear to god you are the biggest fucking moron on the shroomery. Just shut the fuck up, and believe what you want. Read up on the topic, I refuse to waste any more time on you. Ecstasy is safer than aspirin, LOL. Fucking newbie.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fapjack]
    #7860298 - 01/10/08 05:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Fapjack you haven't even been here a year and you're calling me a noob.  LOL

I bet I can goad you into continuing.  :bitch:


Edited by fastfred (01/10/08 06:54 PM)


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fastfred]
    #7860336 - 01/10/08 06:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1604327#1604327

This is probably the most respected person on this site. He was family, in the LSD game, and knew what was going on. If you don't believe me, whatever, but trust me, this guy knows what he's talking about.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fapjack]
    #7860571 - 01/10/08 06:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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After his bust there was a mad scramble in N. Cal. The feds were everywere they shouldn't have been. The precurser market(the link that ties every one together) was exposed and i'm told quite a bit of ET ended up in the Pacific ocean by family that was totally freaking out. A lot of heat came down on people who didn't work with Pickard but knew him. It's possible that someone Pickard had working for him talked, or mabye Pickard himself. No body knows, but it's evident that someone was giving out a lot of information that is highly gaurded. This is why Every family stopped any activity.




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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fastfred]
    #7860650 - 01/10/08 07:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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He couldn't be around the BEL or family. After his second bust and his co-operation with the feds he was shunned from the family and no one would work for him. The people he narced on were old school family!!! Yes they were messing around with hard drugs, but they were also key players in some of the LSD family's. It wasn't like he narced on some latino drug lord, and it wouldn't have mattered who it was because YOU DO NOT CO-OPERATE WITH THE FEDS,PERIOD.





Search this Marquardt Pickard fentanyl. Pickard told the police that the lab they found wasn't his, but Marquardt's. This is one example on him throwing someone under the bus. Chinacat wouldn't have said this if it wasn't absolute, he said that people dealing with hard shit got ratted out, what he is talking about in your post is in regards to LSD.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fapjack]
    #7861721 - 01/10/08 11:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It's well known that Pickard was a narc. He was a DEA informant. Quoted from the Topeka Capital Journal- "Pickard has testified, according to court documents, that in the past he has worked as an informant to the DEA in San Francisco, and for two years he was deputy director of the Drug Policy Analysis Program at UCLA..."

This thread is the first time I've heard anybody try to defend Pickard. I've heard nothing but bad things about the guy.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: muistrue]
    #7861782 - 01/10/08 11:11 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

http://cjonline.com/webindepth/missilesilos/stories/011101_lsdsilo.shtml
Is the link. It actually talks about it in one of the DEA articles as well, but there are a bunch and I didn't feel like looking throught all of them.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: fapjack]
    #7862152 - 01/11/08 12:02 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

FF everyone knows Pickard is a NARC now give it up... read the millions of articles about him he will develop into a sleazebag right before your eyes. He was a sell out not only was he a NARC once he RE-NARCed again, he's been busted for LSD 3x times I believe if you do your research.

Actually if you do your research you'll find good ole Leary was in the sack with the feds too.


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: karma35]
    #7862190 - 01/11/08 12:08 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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karma35 said:
GigaHurtz1, I think you have "formally" and "formerly" confused :-)




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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: opensaysme]
    #7863467 - 01/11/08 04:44 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: rodfarva]
    #7863527 - 01/11/08 05:20 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

my friend said he knows or knew of a guy who got busted in wyoming for lsd and they weigh out the sugar cubes for instance and divide that by 100mc to get the number of hits and it's several times more than it should be.. thats how they bust you. you could have a bunch of water or something and they'd weigh that -- they're filthy trying to exaggerate how much drugs you actually produce or whatnot


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Re: New arrest in case of LSD kingpin from Mill Valley [Re: flavoraid]
    #7863746 - 01/11/08 08:22 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not trying to argue. I don't know the whole story, but it seems like neither do you.

If you're going to call somebody a narc you better know who they ratted out and how much time they got. If you were to call somebody a narc on the streets without that info you'd be liable to be jacked on the spot.

I searched and couldn't find anyting other than vague references. Sounds to me like it's just a rumor or speculation.


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