Home | Community | Message Board

MagicBag Grow Bags
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   Original Sensible Seeds USA West Coast Strains

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
InvisibleDisco Cat
iS A PoiNdexteR

Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 2,601
Cars on Air - awesome
    #7847991 - 01/08/08 01:36 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Part 1:



Part 2:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRuNE
bomberman

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 09/23/00
Posts: 2,331
Loc: tartarus
Last seen: 7 years, 11 months
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7853126 - 01/09/08 11:14 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

That's pretty neat.  I wonder just exactly how much power it takes to compress that air.

Still, for that price, I wouldn't mind having one for city traveling.  But only if it had a better design, maybe like the white sports hatchback in the 2nd vid. :lol:


--------------------
~Happy sailing~


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnom
※※※※※※
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,367
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 8 months, 9 days
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7855243 - 01/09/08 06:24 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

That's some inventive technology. I also wonder how efficient it is, fossil energy->movement of car.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePhanTomCat
Teh Cat....
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 5,908
Loc: My Youniverse....
Last seen: 14 years, 11 months
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7856072 - 01/09/08 08:52 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

That is pretty cool....  :thumbup:
It always cracks me up when I hear "alumineeeum"....  :tongue:


>^;;^<


--------------------
I'll be your midnight French Fry....  :naughty:

"The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...."

>^;;^<


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblepsyka
Praetorian
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/09/03
Posts: 1,652
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7857155 - 01/09/08 11:51 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Wow. Thats one hell of an engine design.

However, how much fossil fuel is consumed compressing air?


--------------------
As the life of a candle,
my wick will burn out.
But, the fire of my mind
shall beam into infinite.



Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnoA
Experimenter
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,166
Loc: my room
Last seen: 20 days, 10 hours
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: psyka]
    #7857590 - 01/10/08 02:11 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

psyka said:
However, how much fossil fuel is consumed compressing air?




With that proposed on board fossil fuel combustion engine compressing air you have a efficiency rating of around 40% of the fuel engine(So 60% of the energy stored in the fuel is lost as heat)(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine#Engine_Efficiency). Then you also have a efficiency loss at compressing air, and then again at using the compressed air to power the air motor.

All in all it is definitely more efficient to use the combustion engine directly to power a car.

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_engine and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_air_storage


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDisco Cat
iS A PoiNdexteR

Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 2,601
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Anno]
    #7858843 - 01/10/08 11:25 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

The video says that with the current design you can cross from the west coast of the US to the east coast with one tank of gas, while the compressed air would need refilling every 200 km, for about $2.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnoA
Experimenter
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 06/17/99
Posts: 24,166
Loc: my room
Last seen: 20 days, 10 hours
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7859196 - 01/10/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

It says, yes. It doesn't mean it is true though.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAnnom
※※※※※※
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6,367
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 8 months, 9 days
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Anno]
    #7859303 - 01/10/08 12:51 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

> proposed on board fossil fuel combustion engine

That really makes no sense to me. That only helps in reducing harmful(to humans) emissions in cities, when you compress the air in a rural area. That makes it pretty equal to electric hybrid cars as far as I can see.

Thanks for the info and links Anno! I was too lazy to search.

edit: The main problems stays how to get the energy, not how to store it. Efficient conversion methods and lighter cars(give up some safety) would also help.

Take the bus or bike though!


Space required to transport the same number of people via car, bus and bike


Edited by Annom (01/10/08 12:59 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePhanTomCat
Teh Cat....
Male User Gallery


Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 5,908
Loc: My Youniverse....
Last seen: 14 years, 11 months
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Annom]
    #7862135 - 01/10/08 09:58 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

Annom said:
Take the bus or bike though!


Space required to transport the same number of people via car, bus and bike




That is a neat comparison....!    :thumbup:


>^;;^<


--------------------
I'll be your midnight French Fry....  :naughty:

"The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...."

>^;;^<


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleColonel Kurtz Ph.D
What What?
Male User Gallery

Registered: 07/22/04
Posts: 11,113
Loc: Shadow Moses
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Annom]
    #7865640 - 01/11/08 03:57 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

Annom said:
Take the bus or bike though!


Space required to transport the same number of people via car, bus and bike




You nederlanders :smile2:


--------------------
:whatwhat:

There's no better way to rock out than with your cock out!!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineVisionary Tools
Male User Gallery


Registered: 06/23/07
Posts: 7,953
Last seen: 1 year, 7 months
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #7865992 - 01/11/08 05:08 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

Fossil? This sort of thing could run from any electricity source. Either way, this seems far more likely to take off than hydrogen fuel.

That combined cam/piston engine looks very similar to a four chambered model which rolled around on bearings. I imagine it's more efficent, due to less friction.

I would like to see how a Tesla turbine, with compressed air or burning fuel/air mixture would compare in efficencies to these compressed air engines.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleColonel Kurtz Ph.D
What What?
Male User Gallery

Registered: 07/22/04
Posts: 11,113
Loc: Shadow Moses
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7866529 - 01/11/08 07:42 PM (16 years, 21 days ago)

And from where would you obtain this electrity you speak of in say less than 10 years in a large scale? :smirk:


--------------------
:whatwhat:

There's no better way to rock out than with your cock out!!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSeussA
Error: divide byzero


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 04/27/01
Posts: 23,480
Loc: Caribbean
Last seen: 2 months, 20 days
Re: Cars on Air - awesome [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #7868066 - 01/12/08 03:20 AM (16 years, 20 days ago)

> And from where would you obtain this electrity you speak of

Nuclear, obviously. It is much more profitable to deal with pollution that stays toxic for tens of thousands of years or longer.


--------------------
Just another spore in the wind.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates   Original Sensible Seeds USA West Coast Strains


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* clean cars liveby 524 2 09/22/05 05:11 PM
by liveby
* installing an emp in ones car to knock out cop's radios/cars ZippoZM 3,414 18 12/27/04 10:06 PM
by Cosm
* F?tish: new electric sports car Edame 1,226 7 10/10/04 02:07 PM
by Twister
* Wood powered cars. Baby_Hitler 1,086 14 09/23/05 04:06 PM
by DocPsilocybin
* The boundary of informational compression whiterasta 1,011 5 08/19/03 11:44 PM
by monoamine
* Put a computer in my car.
( 1 2 all )
KrazieH8er 3,251 28 05/31/05 02:40 AM
by Real_Poopypants
* Video Compression jong21 580 1 05/14/04 07:48 PM
by Radcon
* hooking up a car stereo system in your home phalloidin 852 7 01/21/06 09:01 PM
by HagbardCeline

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: trendal, automan, Northerner
1,184 topic views. 0 members, 1 guests and 0 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.024 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 14 queries.