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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7854344 - 01/09/08 03:37 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Kick it over, if there's a more likely place to find a 'shroom than under a Paulite cowpie I don't know it.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7854712 - 01/09/08 04:41 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)



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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7854777 - 01/09/08 04:52 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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YawningAnus said:
it really isnt that big of a deal. I think you guys are making a big deal out of it because you finally have something to point to and say that he is a bad guy, when before all you could do was make theoretical jabs at how his radical ideas could possibly cause (insert some erroneous, hyperbolic shit here like: everyone gets ebola and dies).

but what is really funny is that you have to go back 20 years to find something that he didnt write or say to even find any dirt on him...

it is such a pathetic story that the only place it keeps coming up is in this forum... because it has no legs. Like the bleeting sheep you are, you placate shady politics by trying to make this into a big deal and probably get on your myspace and gay blogs saying "leik OMG, did you hear! Ron Paul is leik, totally racist, here is what he said".
hmm... the story "re-breaks" the day before the NH primary.... why not just let them hold up a sign that corresponds to the emotion they want you to have.
Be appalled - "I am appalled at this"
apprehension - "I dont know about this Paul guy"
babble angrily - "mlah..mlahmmmm Ron llllimmm Paul .... racist... mlah mlah"

think this one through.... seriously.
Do you really think that someone could hold multiple terms, as well as be elected multiple times, then run for president multiple times while having something like this be even worthy of mentioning?
unless of course he was David Duke running on the "I hate niggers" platform.




So what is your explanation for this?

How did this stuff in get in Paul's newsletter?

Or do you deny that it was there in the first place?




I think that once you start denying something you are acknowledging its implications... in this case, there are no implications. Worst case scenario is that 20 years ago RP allowed statements that almost every white person thinks when they pass a ghetto to be published under his name.
I think it is funny that none of you are actually debating what was said.... you really havent even disagreed with it, but rather just gasped at the fact that someone actualy vocalized those sentiments rather than ignore the elephant in the room that is the race issue.

so let me ask you a question... what is the difference between someone having racially charged statements published under their name 20 years ago and a member of a church that has a history (and a present) of racial injustice (or lies about the fact that his father marched with MLK), or someone that says they hate gooks, or how fuckabee likes to lie about and single out pakistani immigration.... not to mention how much contempt he has for homosexuals?
did you get all that?

oh wait, you know what... john mccain apologized.... he still didnt win the Berkley nomination, but we forgave him, because he said he was talking about his captors..... tsk tsk.... now if anyone had ever uttered the black equivalent to that degree, no matter if they were referring to nigerians, they would never be able to live it down.

so, frankly, nothing that RP is being accused of even comes close to the sentiments and stances that the other candidates have.
it is ok to be a gay basher... it is ok to hate pakistani's... it is ok to hate asians... but the buck stops at black people apparently.
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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7854804 - 01/09/08 04:57 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

yeah, that's some swill in that newsletter...

I like how it rails against gays in the smithsonian... who cares.  If you don't want to support the smithsonian or whatnot, fine, but to shun them cuz of their association w/ some gay exhibit is stupid.

And the MLK section did seem to be a hit peice.  Don't know what the motivation was, but I presume it was related to the issue King spent most of his public life on.

:thumbdown:


But I'm still voting for him.  I like his principles.  That he was associated w/ typical conservative bullshit on social issues isn't cool, but he's still the best candidate for those who wish to have civil rights and personal liberty, regardless of his personal beliefs.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: johnm214]
    #7854836 - 01/09/08 05:02 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

if this crap makes Rp a racist, then all the candidates are racists. simple as that.
I think all this shows just how much fear RP instills in the republican party... it is already obvious that a republican isnt going to win this election, add the republican equivalent of Nader into the mix and you have one fucked party.

who knows though, this might actually help RP in the state where Strom Thurmond was incumbent for 300 years.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: johnm214]
    #7854932 - 01/09/08 05:21 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

What people infer about Paul supporters being crazy:

Yes, people are crazy when they get too concerned about politics. It's something they need to find boring, because thats what normal people do. They need to watch moar TV, and get their political from info when commercials come on, and not give it too much thought.

Things have been going well in the recent past, so we need to elect a leader like we had in the past, flashy, with memorable one-liners.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: Minstrel]
    #7855225 - 01/09/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Factoids for the ignorant.

Ron Paul was the only Congress member to offer to chip in $100 of his own money to buy Rosa Parks a medal for her Civil Rights work achievements. He admired her acts of civil disobedience to make a stand for equal rights.

He models his non violent policies after the styles of Gandhi and MLK, both men he respects and admires for what they accomplished politically without violence.

Paul has a Black American economist at the top of his list for possible VP picks if he gets to that point. Walter Williams I think is his name. Paul thinks he is great!!

Paul is a huge Mohammad Ali fan. Saw him when he was a kid. Is using his Rope a Dope strategy in this election.

Hardly sounds like a White Supremacists to me.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7855278 - 01/09/08 06:33 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
Factoids for the ignorant.

Ron Paul was the only Congress member to offer to chip in $100 of his own money to buy Rosa Parks a medal for her Civil Rights work achievements. He admired her acts of civil disobedience to make a stand for equal rights.




Didn't he vote against some official recognition? And offer this as a sop? $100? Whoopdefuckingdoo.
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He models his non violent policies after the styles of Gandhi and MLK, both men he respects and admires for what they accomplished politically without violence.




Riiiight, he's Gandhi. I for one don't think that here and now calls for a Gandhi figure. But then, some people think that sacrificing millions of lives in the name of pacifism is noble. I just think it's irresponsible. Gandhi had no choice.
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Paul has a Black American economist at the top of his list for possible VP picks if he gets to that point. Walter Williams I think is his name. Paul thinks he is great!!




Yippee! Doesn't erase those newsletters though, do it?
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Paul is a huge Mohammad Ali fan. Saw him when he was a kid. Is using his Rope a Dope strategy in this election.




Paul is the master of the Rope a Dope, only without the Rope. For anyone who remembers, that was NOT a typical Ali strategy. He used it once. Ali also spent a lot of time calling Joe Frazier, a good and decent man, the House Nigger. I loved Ali for his unparalleled boxing talent and elan but he could definitely be a piece of shit when it suited him.
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Hardly sounds like a White Supremacists to me.




Not that, but a lot of other stuff does. At any rate, Storm Front loves him.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7855358 - 01/09/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

He voted against it because he said, it wasn't fair to take tax payers money from them to buy it withy and that the people of congress who wanted her to get it should pay for it themselves. He was the only willing to chip in his own money to honor her with.

The above references are there to simply illustrate that, his goooing all over black Americans he respects and admires and likes to work with, doesn't fit the white supremest profile.

I studied the Storm front web-site long and hard when I was first running Paul through my personal pass or fail test before supporting him.

I learned this. They mostly like him because of where he stands on the second amendment. The members of storm front like their second amendment gun rights and think paul will do a better job of protecting them then anyone else running. After spending about a total of 12 hours of reading through their forums last May, I found no data or hard evidence on Paul supporting their white supremest values.

Recently Paul was asked why he accepts donations from white Supremest. He said,"If they are not doing constructive works with their own money, I'll be more then happy to take it from them to promote my message of Equal and Individual rights to freedom and liberty. :smile:

What a smart ass! I loved it!!


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7855397 - 01/09/08 07:00 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

naw, stormfront likes him cuz of his stance against wellfare and cutting the federal gov't, so the darkies won't get benifits. That and letting states have their own civil rights laws (or lack thereof) w/out federal interference in housing, employment, et cet.

There are other republicans pro-gun, Paul's the only one who would address the previous points.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: johnm214]
    #7855634 - 01/09/08 07:35 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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naw, stormfront likes him cuz of his stance against wellfare and cutting the federal gov't, so the darkies won't get benifits. That and letting states have their own civil rights laws (or lack thereof) w/out federal interference in housing, employment, et cet.

There are other republicans pro-gun, Paul's the only one who would address the previous points.




Sure those issues came up. They were minor compared to the gun talks they were having back in May.

Paul is for small government because that's what the Constitution and Republicans are traditionally for. Paul is for states rights because that is what the Constitution and Republicans are traditionally for. Paul is for non welfare nanny states because that is what the Constitution and Republicans are traditionally for.

Paul is for them for his own reasons, which are different from why Storm front likes those Republican stances.

Anyone stupid enough not to see the spin of overlapping Storm fronts reasons over Paul's reasons, as if they were his too, is being ignorant and looking for what is not there, wanting it to be there so bad, they become delusional and start seeing things that are not there.

By the logic that overlaps ones reasons for something onto another's, you might as well call all Constitutionalists, Libertarians and Republicans racists.

Further more, Paul disagrees with the stupid reasoning of storm front that nanny state policy's help minorities.

The nanny states and groups rights policies have done nothing but help keep blacks and minorities repressed by treating them like they are less then and need 'special" help, like they are all Jerry's kids or something.

He doesn't believe minority groups need special help because they are less then. He believes they simply need individual and equal rights to have a fair shot at the American dream here. he sees and respects all human beings as deserving of equal rights- not less thens that deserve special rights for being less.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7855754 - 01/09/08 07:50 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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But then, some people think that sacrificing millions of lives in the name of pacifism is noble.




Pardon me, but what the fuck are you talking about?


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: Minstrel]
    #7855767 - 01/09/08 07:53 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

umm... he's talking about ghandi and the traditional view of him...

calm down tiger


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: johnm214]
    #7855794 - 01/09/08 07:59 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

I think he was talking about the hunger strike against England.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7856075 - 01/09/08 08:53 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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Zzzap said:
I for one don't think that here and now calls for a Gandhi figure.




Why not? I'm brimming with curiosity on your rational for this opinion.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7857754 - 01/10/08 05:19 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Based on how he's done in the primaries so far, this is all moot anyways.


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7858526 - 01/10/08 10:24 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: Phred]
    #7858895 - 01/10/08 11:35 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: Phred]
    #7858924 - 01/10/08 11:39 AM (16 years, 22 days ago)

:rofl2:


Phred, what's the name of the video? I want to grab the link and post it somewhere else.

Tooooo funny!!!


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Re: The New Republic on Ron Paul...ouch! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7859366 - 01/10/08 01:05 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

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